Mohamed Dräger

[Master Yates]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Hopefully just a stop-gap until we get Reggie Cannon next summer


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[EmmersonForest4]

Re: Mohamed Drager

I’m not unhappy with Tutu & Back.
Priority for me is not another right back.
Just inflating an already bloated squad.
Quality - not quantity - please.

Back is a complete rookie and tutu is injury prone. That is not a great situation to be in, in my opinion. If Tutu wasn’t injury prone than maybe we’d be okay. It’s embarrassing that we need another right back but that’s the situation the club is in.

 

[Otis Redding]

Re: Mohamed Drager

A bit extreme I know, but after some consideration, I've decided not to write-off this lad until I've extended him the courtesy of at least seeing him play.

 

[It's Baggio]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Extended the FB comparison I did for Lowe to include Drager. Added his last 2 seasons in Germany (19/20 in the BL, 18/19 in BL2 where he played more games)

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Re: Mohamed Drager

A bit extreme I know, but after some consideration, I've decided not to write-off this lad until I've extended him the courtesy of at least seeing him play.

No that’s a given but you have to understand people’s reactions when signing players from Oly football wise has never worked for us. Surely you can understand that sentiment?

 

[Danga]

Re: Mohamed Drager

No that’s a given but you have to understand people’s reactions when signing players from Oly football wise has never worked for us. Surely you can understand that sentiment?

Kapino we got on a free and sold for about a million.
Tachtsidis we got on a free and sold for about a million.
Ansarifard we got on a free, when he played he did well enough, again sold on for good money.
Bouch did well enough, dropped a bit of a bollock by all accounts by not persisting with him.
Cafu has been an ok squad player for us.

We have mainly used Oly to shift contracts and to help balance our books. Pretty much everyone we have had from them have been frees or loans to help plug gaps in the squad and I doubt any break the bank wages wise.

But bar that, none of them have worked out.

 

[Cortez the Killer]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Drager? If he signs, he signs.

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[gamble]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Kapino we got on a free and sold for about a million.
Tachtsidis we got on a free and sold for about a million.
Ansarifard we got on a free, when he played he did well enough, again sold on for good money.
Bouch did well enough, dropped a bit of a bollock by all accounts by not persisting with him.
Cafu has been an ok squad player for us.

We have mainly used Oly to shift contracts and to help balance our books. Pretty much everyone we have had from them have been frees or loans to help plug gaps in the squad and I doubt any break the bank wages wise.

But bar that, none of them have worked out.

It would be interesting to know the exact figures, obviously contracts cost allot of money, but to compare that to the fairly nominal fees would be intriguing.

For instance Kapino was sold for £500k I think, so he would have to be on less than £9.6k p/w for us to make any sort of profit.

**Figures are estimates only assuming 500k sale and 52 weeks being at the club**
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[Otis Redding]

Re: Mohamed Drager

No that’s a given but you have to understand people’s reactions when signing players from Oly football wise has never worked for us. Surely you can understand that sentiment?

People are entitled to their opinions Emmo, that doesn't mean I have to "understand" how they formed them.

I can honestly say that I've never made a judgement about a player without seeing him play, and preferably more than once.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Re: Mohamed Drager

People are entitled to their opinions Emmo, that doesn't mean I have to "understand" how they formed them.

I can honestly say that I've never made a judgement about a player without seeing him play, and preferably more than once.

However you can not be excited by a transfer if the transfer is picked from a stable of players that have proven to be disappointing. Of course we will never know 100% if this player will be poor or not just because we’ve been bitten every time football wise I’m not excited by this. Of course I will support him and hope he is a good player and we won’t know until we see him. I think that’s a balanced view of the situation.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Kapino we got on a free and sold for about a million.
Tachtsidis we got on a free and sold for about a million.
Ansarifard we got on a free, when he played he did well enough, again sold on for good money.
Bouch did well enough, dropped a bit of a bollock by all accounts by not persisting with him.
Cafu has been an ok squad player for us.

We have mainly used Oly to shift contracts and to help balance our books. Pretty much everyone we have had from them have been frees or loans to help plug gaps in the squad and I doubt any break the bank wages wise.

But bar that, none of them have worked out.

Kapino and Tachtaidis weren’t sold for a million each however they did make us profits. That’s why I picked my words carefully and said “football wise”. Financial wise we’ve had 2 great signings however football wise not been great. Bouchalakis in my view was poor, Cafu is pretty average and Ansafarid missed some sitters. Maybe Ansarfarid may have been better with time but from what I have seen all Oly players did not meet up to their squad expectations.

 

[Otis Redding]

Re: Mohamed Drager

As long as its not been done over Murphy's head, then its not the worst as short term cover. I just hope that this isn't someone making a transfer decision without our CEO's say so.

That's a fair point Ash, but considering Murphy's experience and knowledge of German football, it's highly probable that he knows all about this lad and signed it off.

 

[Ashley]

Re: Mohamed Drager

That's a fair point Ash, but considering Murphy's experience and knowledge of German football, it's highly probable that he knows all about this lad.

Hopefully. One of the new recruitment team (Syrianos?) might know him from his time in the Bundesliga too.

 

[stantonred]

Re: Mohamed Drager

This seems like decent business. Tutu has pringles for hamstrings, Gabriel looks like being sold. Back and Richardson, I think, have more potential than Gabriel but we need some cover.

Free transfer, reasonable player that won’t be on silly wages and still at a good age. We could well be selling him on in 6-12 months at a profit

No real risk and positives outweigh the negatives

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

Re: Mohamed Drager

It would be interesting to know the exact figures, obviously contracts cost allot of money, but to compare that to the fairly nominal fees would be intriguing.

For instance Kapino was sold for £500k I think, so he would have to be on less than £9.6k p/w for us to make any sort of profit.

**Figures are estimates only assuming 500k sale and 52 weeks being at the club**
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Kapino was sold after six months, not a year (same as Tachtsidis, sold for the same price). And all the players you got from us were on significantly less than £10k p/w. There's no question that, financially-wise, you have benefited from the movement between the two clubs, just as there is no question that you haven't football-wise.

 

[gamble]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Kapino was sold after six months, not a year (same as Tachtsidis, sold for the same price). And all the players you got from us were on significantly less than £10k p/w. There's no question that, financially-wise, you have benefited from the movement between the two clubs, just as there is no question that you haven't football-wise.

Like I said I would be intrigued to see the exact figures, I imagine we have benefited from the transfers, but I can't imagine it's a significant amount.

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[GreeksBearingGifts]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Like I said I would be intrigued to see the exact figures, I imagine we have benefited from the transfers, but I can't imagine it's a significant amount.

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True, not more than a few million overall, I would guess.

 

[Huxley]

Re: Mohamed Drager

True, not more than a few million overall, I would guess.

Hey, that money won't launder itself!

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[GOBIAS]

Re: Mohamed Drager

I need to know Barry’s thoughts on this.

 

[Timothy Pope]

Re: Mohamed Drager

I think his nickname should Knuckles


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[Timothy Pope]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Btw. Not concerned about this signing. Low cost cover for full back that we’ll probably sell for a profit when we are either comfortable with Back or sign someone in January


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[marshal99]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Isn't it just a loan ? He'll only play if we are desperately short of numbers should injuries pile up
No risk

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Re: Mohamed Drager

True, not more than a few million overall, I would guess.

Which would have been enough to keep us under the FFP ceiling...

 

[Statto]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Extended the FB comparison I did for Lowe to include Drager. Added his last 2 seasons in Germany (19/20 in the BL, 18/19 in BL2 where he played more games)

Could you add Bong on there too?

 

[Haych]

Re: Mohamed Drager

Which would have been enough to keep us under the FFP ceiling...

Be careful or Mel will report us to the EFL who he currently has on strings.