How the BBC’s sport coverage lost its way

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

TV isn't my thing, I reckon I must watch 5-6 hours a year of it, but the BBC did us proud tonight with the triumphant return of Gladiators!

Brilliant stuff, new events are ace, prefect blend between sports and panto.

 

[Rubics]

Whats the red head called Alf!

 

[Huxley]

The most disturbing part of this thread is the use of the phrase ‘rammed down the throat’. The imagery alone is upsetting let alone the fact the phrase is so ubiquitous with people of a certain viewpoint.


Anyway to veer unfashionably on topic. BBC sports coverage lost me when it became ex players acting like punters and mates sharing a beer and discussion how team X got it all wrong and ejaculating anecdotes of the good old days.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Whats the red head called Alf!

If you're talking about my wife, we decided her Gladiator name would be "Jaffa Cake"

 

[Morpeth]

We watched gladiators with our 7 year old and she loved it, as did the wife. And to be honest I enjoyed it too so long as it doesn’t become to cheesy. The original programme had very healthy competition and only went silly with Wolf type sections when it was appropriate.

I always wanted to be caught on hang tough by Lightning but seeing what she looks like now, I think I’d be turned in to mincemeat. Scary.

 

[Steve B]

Anyway you missed this beauty.
Never forget the excitement as a kid, waiting for a big cup night match, trying to avoid hearing the score. Tune ends, Harry C then straight over to a packed ground somewhere, steaming with drunken fans swaying about on the terraces.

 

[BryanRoy22]

TV isn't my thing, I reckon I must watch 5-6 hours a year of it, but the BBC did us proud tonight with the triumphant return of Gladiators!

Brilliant stuff, new events are ace, prefect blend between sports and panto.

TV is shite nowdays. Regurgitated nonsense with Ant and Dec, Stephen Mulhern, Graham Norton, or Rylan Clark hosting it.

Voiceover from someone they want you to connect with from the past.

They think everyone's stupid. But they're the lazy ones.

 

[Rockabilly]

TV is shite nowdays. Regurgitated nonsense with Ant and Dec, Stephen Mulhern, Graham Norton, or Rylan Clark hosting it.

Voiceover from someone they want you to connect with from the past.

They think everyone's stupid. But they're the lazy ones.

You’re not wrong there Bryan.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

TV is shite nowdays. Regurgitated nonsense with Ant and Dec, Stephen Mulhern, Graham Norton, or Rylan Clark hosting it.

Voiceover from someone they want you to connect with from the past.

They think everyone's stupid. But they're the lazy ones.

I stopped watching it when MTV descended into reality TV shows and the Big Bummer craze hit, with Jade Goody's Kebab moment pivotal in making me think "why am I wasting even 1% of my life watching shit like this?" lol

I'll watch DVDs of classic shows like Miami Vice and I also watch a few films a week, but dramas, reality shows, and pretty much anything which isn't live can do one.

 

[redforest]

Just been catching up on all this far right/left extremism and the absurd idea that they are at opposite ends of a straight line spectrum. They are not; they are on a circle and have gone all the way round and these extreme views actually meet at the far side.

Think of it as a clock face with the centre placed at 12 o’clock and extreme left and right at 6. “Normal” Tories would be at 3 and “normal” Labour at 9. The problem is the clock has been knocked off its axis and the “centre” is probably at 2 with Starmer’s Labour trying to position itself at 12 and the Tory party of Johnson Truss and Sunak hovering around 4/5 having removed all the 1 o’clock Tories back in 2019.

It’s consistent for 30p Lee as well, sitting proudly at 6 having flip flopped from the extreme left of the Labour Party to the extreme right of the Tory party.

 

[RianBrice]

Just been catching up on all this far right/left extremism and the absurd idea that they are at opposite ends of a straight line spectrum. They are not; they are on a circle and have gone all the way round and these extreme views actually meet at the far side.

Think of it as a clock face with the centre placed at 12 o’clock and extreme left and right at 6. “Normal” Tories would be at 3 and “normal” Labour at 9. The problem is the clock has been knocked off its axis and the “centre” is probably at 2 with Starmer’s Labour trying to position itself at 12 and the Tory party of Johnson Truss and Sunak hovering around 4/5 having removed all the 1 o’clock Tories back in 2019.

It’s consistent for 30p Lee as well, sitting proudly at 6 having flip flopped from the extreme left of the Labour Party to the extreme right of the Tory party.

Where do ANTIFA and Nazis go on the clock?

 

[Monkman]

Where do ANTIFA and Nazis go on the clock?

They're certainly not equivalently extreme, if that's what you're suggesting. One group calls for the annihilation of non-white humans, and the other group thinks that's a really really bad idea.

 

[redforest]

Where do ANTIFA and Nazis go on the clock?

6 along with all the other nutters

 

[RianBrice]

6 along with all the other nutters

 

[RianBrice]

They're certainly not equivalently extreme, if that's what you're suggesting. One group calls for the annihilation of non-white humans, and the other group thinks that's a really really bad idea.

One is far left, one far right, that’s what I’m suggesting. Both sets of them are absolute nutters.

 

[Barry]

I stopped watching it when MTV descended into reality TV shows and the Big Bummer craze hit, with Jade Goody's Kebab moment pivotal in making me think "why am I wasting even 1% of my life watching shit like this?" lol

I'll watch DVDs of classic shows like Miami Vice and I also watch a few films a week, but dramas, reality shows, and pretty much anything which isn't live can do one.

Im like you I dont watch live TV bar Forest away games or unless someone so says watch this you'll like it.

To many laughter tracks, if the audience needs to be told when to laugh is it really that funny?

Not sure if TV peaked here...

Or here

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[Eddie Yates]

You lot don't know what you're talking about modern TV is absolutely fantastic
You've got got classic comedy like Rob & Romesh, for the intellectuals you've got that game show hosted by Bradley Walsh & for those that enjoy top quality sport theres the WSL

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Im like you I dont watch live TV bar Forest away games or unless someone so says watch this you'll like it.

To many laughter tracks, if the audience needs to be told when to laugh is it really that funny?

Not sure if TV peaked here...

Or here

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Mate, if I had to pick 2 scenes to describe peak TV those would be them

 

[Monkman]

One is far left, one far right, that’s what I’m suggesting. Both sets of them are absolute nutters.

One's guiding principle is fascism and racism, and one's is anti-fascism and anti-racism. If we're saying they're both equally extreme then we're in a bad place.

It just shows how far to the right the Overton window has shifted, as mentioned earlier in the thread.

 

[Steve B]

TV is shite nowdays. Regurgitated nonsense with Ant and Dec, Stephen Mulhern, Graham Norton, or Rylan Clark hosting it.

Voiceover from someone they want you to connect with from the past.

They think everyone's stupid. But they're the lazy ones.

Can I add Joel Dummit to that list and while you’re at it Bradley Walsh (that bloke must have some serious info on people)

 

[Redemption]

Isn't it that all these anodyne characters like Vernon Kay, Bradley Walsh, Claudia Winkleman, etc are just palatable and affable for the majority?

BBC One is still the most watched channel, with over half of TV views each week going to the channel.

When there's so much choice elsewhere, people stay with it because it's doing something for them.

 

[valspoodle]

TV isn't my thing, I reckon I must watch 5-6 hours a year of it, but the BBC did us proud tonight with the triumphant return of Gladiators!

Brilliant stuff, new events are ace, prefect blend between sports and panto.

Gosh, I watch five hours a day, I reckon.

 

[trentside69]

Can I add Joel Dummit to that list and while you’re at it Bradley Walsh (that bloke must have some serious info on people)

If you turn your TV on at anytime and flick through the programmes you will see jermaine jenas for some reason

 

[Redemption]

If you turn your TV on at anytime and flick through the programmes you will see jermaine jenas for some reason

Is this just BBC thing?

I recall an earlier period of BBC hysteria when the 'talent' all had to join on a salary basis so their pay could be reported on. It meant that the Beeb required their star performers to do stints on other shows and formats as part of their duties to get 'value for money' to placate the rabble-rousers.

 

[trentside69]

Is this just BBC thing?

I recall an earlier period of BBC hysteria when the 'talent' all had to join on a salary basis so their pay could be reported on. It meant that the Beeb required their star performers to do stints on other shows and formats as part of their duties to get 'value for money' to placate the rabble-rousers.

I'm not sure how it works but you don't see lineker being hired out/inviting himself on to multiple other programmes he just sticks to the football (and politics)