trentside69
Viv Anderson
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
The dalai lineker is no different
How the BBC’s sport coverage lost its way
- Thread starter Alf-engelos Mindminackers
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The dalai lineker is no different
Redemption
Agenda Benda
It's laughable that in the assement of whether fairness is a decent aim for the BBC, the conclusion is always to reject fairness because of hypocrisy.
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
Same here. Watch the news in Saudi Arabia and then tell me it's a wonderful country.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Firstly surely this shows the general unhappiness of everyone with the beeb and goes to my point that it will never be neutral so why bother with something so archaic? In a world where everyone promotes what the self wants and Uber liberalism why does getting rid of the beeb hit so hard on the left? It’s people excersising their right to what entertainment they have to pay for.
Plus if this is the story it’s such a non story anyway. Of course it’s a Russian background it was about the salisbury poisonings!
BBC rejects complaints over Jeremy Corbyn's 'Russian' hat
The BBC says Newsnight didn't alter the Labour leader's hat to make him look "more Russian".
www.bbc.co.uk
Greg Dyke was a former Beeb director who donated to labour. I again have no problem with that anyway it’s a private donation.
I don’t meet anyone who likes the beeb. Everything I liked has been butchered anyway. Their comedy is abysmal now, their panel shows lacking, doctor who butchered, top gear butchered, footy focus butchered, documentaries are more about first woman this, xenophobia, first black this, gay icons and there is a complete lack of decent science, geographical and history docs now. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying don’t make those docs but there is far too many and most people aren’t arsed about it. I would love a great 10 part documentary series on WW1 or another human planet documentary.
It’s drifted so far away from what the majority want that’s it’s actually pointless. I think it’s bias towards the left and you come across like you think it’s bias towards the right. So what’s the point? May as well have adverts on it now and keep the news, local Tele and radio and the world service and scrap the rest and stop the licence fee.
Does anyone on here really watch the Beeb more than 5 hours per week? I watch the odd six nations match and MOTD when Forest win. I watch Attenborough but after that I don’t touch it. TalkSPORT on the radio or Spotify for me and YouTube, Netflix, prime and Sky for entertainment. It’s past it’s sell by date and has no want to even make entertainment that the majority likes so why we are all bothering?
Redemption
Agenda Benda
The Great British Butchery Show. Genius.
Alvar Hanso
Jack Burkitt
The BBC is still the most trusted news outlet in the UK
Rubics
Bin VAR!
Be careful what you wish for - killing the bbc would push us more to the US model and I don’t have the vocabulary to describe how shite that is.
Happily pay it just for TMS / 5 live / Colin Fray! etc. (if you even want a 5 mins giggle - look up the didn’t quite get his leg over cricket commentary!)
in fact I shouldn’t have typed all that above - Colin Fray is worth the money alone!
Happily pay it just for TMS / 5 live / Colin Fray! etc. (if you even want a 5 mins giggle - look up the didn’t quite get his leg over cricket commentary!)
in fact I shouldn’t have typed all that above - Colin Fray is worth the money alone!
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
I understand that but what we all have to pay isn’t worth the tidbits. I’m not saying scrap it either but if you stopped the licence fee and got adverts to plug the funding gaps only keep local tele, radio, world service and the news I don’t think anyone would care the other bits are gone. If people wanted to pay for the entertainment maybe have just one channel so you have your traitors and strictly and if people wanted to subscribe where they have no adverts charge 5 pound per month.
I feel robbed by the licence fee at the moment. 15 years ago I did not.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Probably because your pay hasn't gone up that much and the cost of everything else has so there's less money left over to pay for a flat fee service...
Licence fee is a bit archaic, should get subsumed into general taxation, that way the wealthier shoulder more of the cost of the national broadcaster.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Even than I begrudge any of my pay going towards it. At least the fire service and NHS they are there if I need them. I don’t feel entertainment is a valid form of taxation to be taken off someone.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
That's how I feel about nuclear warheads.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
I disagree I was a student with part time work 15 years ago. Yet even in a rented house it was worth it. Now I don’t watch anything, it’s not made for my preferences anymore. I bet most people feel that way. I can’t remember the last comedy program that bbc did that was actually funny. I remember mock the week being edgy when Frankie Boyle didn’t fall off the cliff.
Now I have a decent job with a house. The licence fee isn’t loads to pay out of mine and my partners wages but we still feel ripped off for the content we are given. I don’t understand why it needs so much money? I understand the benefit of local radio, tele, bbc news, world service and national sporting events. Besides that everything else is not a national service. The entertainment arm dosen’t warrant mandated payment from the public. You can have adverts and make it not cost for everyone.
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MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
The entertainment stuff is the only thing that would standalone as a private enterprise.
Your license fee pays for the stuff you say you understand the benefit of: the local radio, the Attenborough shows, the news. None of those things would be profitable and so without public contribution then you'd be left with Strictly et al on a single BBC channel.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Fair enough Maxi I understand your point, we will just have to agree to disagree! If the BBC was more representative I would be open to mandated payment but I feel the beeb dosen’t care about the majority anymore.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
If you accepted adverts you could have a minimal payment and the entertainment wouldn’t generate that much money as on a whole they don’t make a great number of popular shows. Strictly is very popular and traitors will be, however after that it’s got nothing.
Than it also poses a question of no one is watching anyway that the news, local radio and tele wouldn’t make money than what is the point?
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
Agree, happy to pay Just for the radio stuff tbh. Not many competitors making programmes like Infinite Monkey Cage etc.
Also, I can’t fookin stand adverts. Netflix and Amazon can do one when they start with this nonsense. If you think you’re gonna be fast-forwarding through the commercial bullshit think again! Try watching something on ITVX, the fast forward option becomes magically unavailable as soon as an advert starts.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
Your partner is called Mike?
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
Watch everything on the dodgy firestick. That’s the way forward Bobby baby!!
Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Bobby Baby!
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
I'm still not over the movie 'White men can't jump'.
Woody Harrelson ruined everything for me.
Grass
Geoff Thomas
Nigel Farage had more air time on the BBC on all the various current affairs and news programmes in the run up to the referendum, during and after...more than anybody else. He is an absolute master of grifting. I actually applaud him for mining outrage culture for decades to make millions from the British people
He was paid handsomely.
He was on everything spouting his bile acting like he was a man of the people.
Holding a pint and a fag in his hand, wearing his flat cap and going on Fox hunts. It endeared him to specifically an English sentimentality!!
It's the same trick that Trump pulled with his MAGA hats. It was clever marketing and emotionally attached people to them. Simple and it worked.
Farage an ex banker who was also being funded by Russian money and headed the leave campaign that was funded to the tune of £8m through Aaron Banks who got the money from Russia!
Farage has kept his dual nationality so he can freely go to Europe because he has two children of German decent with his wife.
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
If we all did that old bean, there wouldn’t be any TV.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
I’d be happy with that. You can’t beat a good book.
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
To be fair, i steal those.
Grass
Geoff Thomas
BBC has a perception problem.
News and Current affairs is seen as very much Tory driven and on the right and always has been and always will be.
Entertainment, Arts, Music very much perceived as woke lefty which it is and always has been and always will be.
News and Current affairs is seen as very much Tory driven and on the right and always has been and always will be.
Entertainment, Arts, Music very much perceived as woke lefty which it is and always has been and always will be.