Major Oak Morgan
First Team Squad
Goal difference of course also being a factor. Let’s say 11 points, although I’m still hopeful we won’t get a 10 point penalty.
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Goal difference of course also being a factor. Let’s say 11 points, although I’m still hopeful we won’t get a 10 point penalty.
Major Oak Morgan
First Team Squad
No, we’d need to be 10 / 11 points clear of any team other than Everton (not facing ffp sanction)
Redemption
One less gobshite...
No, we'll have had any punishment by the time we finish. So if we finish above anyone, we've done so deduction in place.
If we appeal, and were successful, we would only finish higher.
The only outside odds event is that both Forest and Everton appeal the current PSR, and only Everton's appeal was successful.
Major Oak Morgan
First Team Squad
Well, obviously once any FFP sanction is known then if we finish 17th we’re fine. I’m referring to points needed without knowing outcome of FFP sanction. Maybe should have worded my post clearer but im trying to understand what the minimum target is.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
What is the minimum points in your example?
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
There was a BBC pundit on Radio 5 Live this week (Ian Dennis I think) who reckoned that Everton might get a couple of points back and we were likely to face a deduction, so for that reason I'm nervous.
But if we can show good form for the next few months, I think we can make things look much more positive for the run in.
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But if we can show good form for the next few months, I think we can make things look much more positive for the run in.
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Major Oak Morgan
First Team Squad
Without goal difference, 1 more point than Everton and 11 more than another two teams.
youreds1986
Geoff Thomas
Current mood?
At least I'm not a Sheffield United fan.
At least I'm not a Sheffield United fan.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
But why are Everton your magic benchmark?
Major Oak Morgan
First Team Squad
Surely the couple of points back would be for previous infringement? I’d be gutted if they got off more lightly than us for 2nd offence!
Major Oak Morgan
First Team Squad
Because they are struggling and facing a ffp sanction. Remove Everton from the equation and we’d need to win 11 points more than another three teams for me to feel safe
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I suppose it depends on the actual figures and any mitigation.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
99%. Can't image us getting an 11+ point deduction.
Although Everton might win their legal challenge post-season...
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
As a starter, assume all clubs above Sheff Utd and Burnley are good for another 15pts.
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
He might have meant that, but he did suggest that we were far more at risk than Everton. Perhaps he was just factoring in that they could have more in them for the fight, I'm not sure.
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Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
Occasionally Ray, I'm genuinely bewildered by some of the stuff that must go through your head.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Right - surely they might get a couple points back on appeal but are still in the dock for the latest round, same as us?
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
At this rate, the only way to survival might be Everton docked another 6 points or so.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
The only way to survival is to start winning some games of football.
QUICK.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Just checked who Luton are playing next weekend.
FFS
FFS
justnotjase
Viv Anderson
We do need to start winning ASAP but I think Palace are also in massive trouble.
Maybe just kidding myself, but I think we'll get a fine and not docked points. Going to be a fight to the death when it feels like it should never have been this season.
Maybe just kidding myself, but I think we'll get a fine and not docked points. Going to be a fight to the death when it feels like it should never have been this season.
justnotjase
Viv Anderson
Did you also check who Everton are playing?Just checked who Luton are playing next weekend.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I admire your optimism,Jase-but a points deduction seems inevitable to me.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
That’s cheered me up
Collymore!
Grenville Morris
We're comfortably the third-worst team in the league. I'm not sure where other's confidence comes from that we will have an upturn in form this month.
We've weakened the starting XI in January, added an unknown quantity in goal, and not to write him off but Sangare is average, to replace Mangala who is average+.
Everton will get some points back from their first deduction which will see them go back above us, and then we'll both get a similar punishment for this round of FFP breaches, which will see us stay below them. Everton will be fine, and we'll need to finish above Luton by whatever our points deduction is, and I can't even see us doing that without a points penalty.
Mismanagement into FFP breaches has killed us, and now Luton's form and their superior goal difference will likely see us down.
We've weakened the starting XI in January, added an unknown quantity in goal, and not to write him off but Sangare is average, to replace Mangala who is average+.
Everton will get some points back from their first deduction which will see them go back above us, and then we'll both get a similar punishment for this round of FFP breaches, which will see us stay below them. Everton will be fine, and we'll need to finish above Luton by whatever our points deduction is, and I can't even see us doing that without a points penalty.
Mismanagement into FFP breaches has killed us, and now Luton's form and their superior goal difference will likely see us down.