Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
I was just about to waddle round to the tub with me pint of Lincoln Green "Hood"... bollock naked of course.
2 old ladies spotted me.
One had a stroke.... the other couldn't reach...
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The Mood
- Thread starter Alf-engelos Mindminackers
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2 old ladies spotted me.
One had a stroke.... the other couldn't reach...
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
I jest, I'm pretty positive for this season too.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Big season coming up for Ibrahim
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Early signs are he is looking like he has regained his mojo.
Bossed both friendlies when he came onto the pitch.
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
Right now, cautiously optimistic. Think we will need to be better this season, as the promoted teams are better than the three relegated and since we are Nottingham Forest, we're always a sale away from a meltdown. I still have this sinking feeling that come late August, someone is going to come in for Morgan or Murillo that we cannot turn down.
That said, feel like we're maybe 2-3 good signings away from being comfortably mid-table as well.
If we don't get beat by Bournemouth 3-2 at home on the opening day, I'll know the footballing gods are with us.
That said, feel like we're maybe 2-3 good signings away from being comfortably mid-table as well.
If we don't get beat by Bournemouth 3-2 at home on the opening day, I'll know the footballing gods are with us.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Back in July I was feeling so, so optimistic.
10 minutes into the new season we lose Danilo with a broken ankle.
Then, at the first international break we lose Sangare with a torn hamstring while training with his national squad, and Boly with a pulled calf muscle training with his.
Then we lose MGW to Taylor's intervention (ruled unlawful, but still MGW serves a 1, possibly 2 match ban).
Nuno then decides the best way to cope in a home game against Fulham, to end the winless home run, is to park the bus.
It is too early to slip back into pessimism, but the warning signs are appearing!
I still think we will improve on last season's position, but I am a bit nervous that after the next 3 games we might be less well placed in the table, and Cooper's Leicester will be looking to pull out all the stops and take the 3 points from us.
10 minutes into the new season we lose Danilo with a broken ankle.
Then, at the first international break we lose Sangare with a torn hamstring while training with his national squad, and Boly with a pulled calf muscle training with his.
Then we lose MGW to Taylor's intervention (ruled unlawful, but still MGW serves a 1, possibly 2 match ban).
Nuno then decides the best way to cope in a home game against Fulham, to end the winless home run, is to park the bus.
It is too early to slip back into pessimism, but the warning signs are appearing!
I still think we will improve on last season's position, but I am a bit nervous that after the next 3 games we might be less well placed in the table, and Cooper's Leicester will be looking to pull out all the stops and take the 3 points from us.
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Rzar
Bob McKinlay
If somebody offered you this start to the season every single Forest fan would have snapped their hands off, look at the bigger picture FFS
we're hopefully going to be a mid-table team, that means winning some and losing some against the teams around us.
It's an improvement on last year, no problem being disappointed after a loss, but to suggest the mood has turned pessimistic either shows how daft our fans are, or is an exaggeration.
It's an improvement on last year, no problem being disappointed after a loss, but to suggest the mood has turned pessimistic either shows how daft our fans are, or is an exaggeration.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Don't you FFS me, young man!
He’s not wrong, though.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Can I just point out a key phrase in my post:
"It is too early to slip back into pessimism).
7 home league games plus a league cup draw/penalty loss is something that is a bit worrying.
Yes, we have picked up some excellent points on the road, but to imagine that we will continue to collect 7 from 9 on each set of 3 away games is just the teeniest bit optimistic.
The cumulative points graph maps the progress from season 1 to 2, and further progress from season 2 over the course of the first 6 games of this season.
Extend the graph for 3 games, and assuming we lose at Chelsea, draw at home against Palace and then lose (God forbid!) at the King Power, the line for last and this season meet.
Win against Palace and we remain on a favorable path.
Win then against Fester and we are soaring away towards a European place!
I remain optimistic, but a bit nervous.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
It does feel to me, despite the positive start to the season the next 3 games are quite important.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
9 points is probably about par for the fixtures we've had.
It's certainly not 'snap your hands off' territory.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
I recall people saying 7 from the first 3 fixtures was a god-given right.
5 was disappointing to some people (many of which underestimating the quality of Bournemouth and Wolves).
4 points from the 2nd set of 3 games was excellent given the 2 tough away games, and a not so easy fixture v Fulham at the WFCG.
So I agree that 9 points is about par.
The question now is how many points will the coming 3 games give us?
I am predicting 4, which would leave us well placed after 9 games, well ahead of last season.
So you're feeling positive then yea?
The refs are still awful, we're missing our starting midfield, and we still only have one fit striker. Yet we're 9th with a 6 point gap to relegation. I'm buzzing.
Loads to be positive about.
Moreno got beaten up yesterday but how much quality did Traore actually deliver? That encounter aside, that back 4 looks immense, and they've barely played together.
Really strong bench. The players and Nuno still figuring out what works best but everyone looks up for it - even if sometimes they're busy idiots, there's no doubt the application is there. It will click.
I was a little bummed out prior to Liverpool... Same old last minute suicide Vs Bournemouth. Great 3 points at Southampton but hardly rampant against a poor team. Not assertive enough against a Wolves side who were vulnerable and currently bottom.
There were encouraging signs Vs Newcastle, but 4 points away prior to Fulham showed what the current team is about. Fulham will cause far more problems for other teams than they did us yesterday, and we only lost via an individual howler and the Elanga non-call.
Chelsea will be a rollercoaster but after that we have a bunch of really winnable games and we should only improve through that run.*
*I hope
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Yes, I am still feeling positive, but have a weather eye on how we progress from here.
If there is a winner in todays 4:30 kick-off, we slip back to 10th... still top half of the table.
European football here we come!
HBB
Jack Burkitt
I think we need to give some credit to Fulham - they beat Newcastle up the other week 3-1, they're in the top 6 now, they're no mugs and they only snatched it through a penalty - could have gone either way. We look totally at home in the PL now, yes we need some more threat up top but the defence is sound and with that kind of set-up we're unlikely to trouble the relegation battle.
We're in a much better position than we've been for so long and in Nuno we seem to have an astute (if maybe defensively-minded) manager who I think is feeling very much at home here (not Cooper levels but good enough).
We've always talked as a fanbase about needing to consolidate and I think we're slap bang in that place. I have more faith in how we're progressing than I have for many a year and thankfully it's being supported by a good owner who continues to back as required.
We finish middle of the table I'll be very happy.
We're in a much better position than we've been for so long and in Nuno we seem to have an astute (if maybe defensively-minded) manager who I think is feeling very much at home here (not Cooper levels but good enough).
We've always talked as a fanbase about needing to consolidate and I think we're slap bang in that place. I have more faith in how we're progressing than I have for many a year and thankfully it's being supported by a good owner who continues to back as required.
We finish middle of the table I'll be very happy.
Pleased with general progress but still the nagging problem of a prolific striker remains.
These are the guys that keep you winning games and keeping momentum, all the big clubs have them. Taiwo isn't going to be that guy let's be honest. The issue of FFP clearly stopped us going balls out last window. We had some nearly moments like Wood's offside and CHO blasting over but that was it.
All too tight and sideways passing again.
Chelsea could win the Prem so tough times next game.
These are the guys that keep you winning games and keeping momentum, all the big clubs have them. Taiwo isn't going to be that guy let's be honest. The issue of FFP clearly stopped us going balls out last window. We had some nearly moments like Wood's offside and CHO blasting over but that was it.
All too tight and sideways passing again.
Chelsea could win the Prem so tough times next game.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Sorry, not having that at all
Unless of course your expectations are for us to finish in Europe. 3 of the 6 we have played have had equally good starts to the season.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I expected us to beat Southampton and Wolves, beat one of either Bournemouth or Fulham, and lose to Brighton and Liverpool.
Not sure why that translates to finishing in Europe, behave.
We had a kind start to the season and we didn't take advantage of it but then got good results in games where we weren't expected to take anything, so they average each other out, and again were on par for the fixtures we've had. I expect us to finish around 14th FWIW.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Table doesn't lie, we're doing excellently overall.
But it's always gonna be a problem when the majority of the fanbase is paying fortunes to not experience that excellence, with the majority of points coming away.
I still feel optimistic, but I'm not prepared to sweep under the carpet that only 2 pts from Wolves, Bournouth and Fulham at home is below par either. And yesterday's tactical experiment went badly too.
Shit happens, we move on, and if we beat Palace then it'll all be forgotten.
But it's always gonna be a problem when the majority of the fanbase is paying fortunes to not experience that excellence, with the majority of points coming away.
I still feel optimistic, but I'm not prepared to sweep under the carpet that only 2 pts from Wolves, Bournouth and Fulham at home is below par either. And yesterday's tactical experiment went badly too.
Shit happens, we move on, and if we beat Palace then it'll all be forgotten.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Expecting to beat every bottom half team is not 14th territory. On a par that will get you into Europe.
YellowBelly Red
Geoff Thomas
Weren't some people calling the game against Fulham as a "must win"? 
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
I said on the 20th of July that I was cautiously optimistic and I still feel that way. I'm really encouraged on the start to the season and I think that we perhaps needed a performance/result like yesterday just to give us a reminder we're not the finished article, there is a lot of football to be played and there are still areas in which we can improve.
Think it's important to realise that Fulham have had a pretty good start as well but we weren't blown away yesterday. In fact, no team yet has blown us away. We've been in every game we've been in so far.
If Liverpool was a benchmark of us being able to hurt any team, Fulham was a benchmark that we're not able to hurt every team.
Now, with Chelsea being the way they are right now, it's possible they might bloody us up next game but it's also entirely possible we go to West London and pick up points.
Think it's important to realise that Fulham have had a pretty good start as well but we weren't blown away yesterday. In fact, no team yet has blown us away. We've been in every game we've been in so far.
If Liverpool was a benchmark of us being able to hurt any team, Fulham was a benchmark that we're not able to hurt every team.
Now, with Chelsea being the way they are right now, it's possible they might bloody us up next game but it's also entirely possible we go to West London and pick up points.