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Pissed off.
Soft goals conceded. Combined with getting screwed over.
Soft goals conceded. Combined with getting screwed over.
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The Mood
- Thread starter Alf-engelos Mindminackers
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Haych
John Robertson
The points deduction will kill us, I have 100% confidence Nuno would get us enough points to stay up in a normal year despite him taking over a team who looked absolutely shite for weeks before he took over.
Anything north of 6 points deducted and I think we’re done.
Anything north of 6 points deducted and I think we’re done.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I reckon we're done even without a points deduction. Defensively frail and mentally weak, only usually ends one way I'm afraid.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
We're wholly reliant on Luton falling apart because we're going to struggle to break mid 30s at this rate.
We're in deep shit and it feels like no one at the club and half the supporters don't recognise it.
Collymore!
Grenville Morris
Yeah, feels like a Leicester / West Ham / Newcastle relegation season. We’re close to having the quality on paper, but mistakes and a lack of ‘something’ will see you down.
We just don’t seem to have ‘it’ this season.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Anyway let's talk about top six shall we because that's where this squad should be.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Even if Luton fall apart, I can still see them doing enough to finish above us. They at least put up a fight most weeks, our lot don't do that.
I also reckon we'll probably be on our 3rd manager by mid March too.
Dirk Furtull
John Robertson
If anyone asked me last season about relegation, I'd say absolutely not and mean it. Sadly feel differently this season, I think we're going to have to be incredibly fortunate to stay up, and we have better players this time. Apart from Brennan obviously. No disrespect to Nuno, I think he's ok, but there's now a completely different dynamic about the place. Can't put my finger on it but it's just not the same for me.
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Robert Learnshaw
COYR
NFFC Modern Glory days,
22-24, we hardly knew ye
22-24, we hardly knew ye
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
The mood is that the club should probably start making plans for the Championship, regardless of whether we get docked points or not.
Losing to Newcastle 3-2 in isolation isn't a bad result, but when you consider it's the sixth time we've lost 3-2 this season, we haven't kept a clean sheet since November and Newcastle had basically three chances and scored three goals. We've won 5 games in 24 attempts.
Nuno hasn't really improved the team any on Steve Cooper, it's still the same issues but I think with him and not Steve, it feels like we've lost the passion as a club for the fight. I don't trust us to scrap, like I trust an Everton or a Luton to and while we may have better individual players, it's a team sport.
I feel like we are this season's Leicester and we're sleepwalking back into the Championship. We need a win and a clean sheet sharpish.
Losing to Newcastle 3-2 in isolation isn't a bad result, but when you consider it's the sixth time we've lost 3-2 this season, we haven't kept a clean sheet since November and Newcastle had basically three chances and scored three goals. We've won 5 games in 24 attempts.
Nuno hasn't really improved the team any on Steve Cooper, it's still the same issues but I think with him and not Steve, it feels like we've lost the passion as a club for the fight. I don't trust us to scrap, like I trust an Everton or a Luton to and while we may have better individual players, it's a team sport.
I feel like we are this season's Leicester and we're sleepwalking back into the Championship. We need a win and a clean sheet sharpish.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
Not feeling as bad as I did a few hours ago
Everton play Palace next so that's a six ponter, and I can't see anything but a defeat for Burnley against Arsenal
So if we could somehow win against West Ham things wouldn't look so bad
That's a big if, mind
Everton play Palace next so that's a six ponter, and I can't see anything but a defeat for Burnley against Arsenal
So if we could somehow win against West Ham things wouldn't look so bad
That's a big if, mind
isaacs
Viv Anderson
The easy answer would be Coops going was a coffin nail to the general feel around the club but if we're being honest it started from the get go in preseason. I think the day of the fixtures being released with it having the first 3 home fixtures combined with 5 out of the 6 away games being as difficult as they were honestly done something to the fanbase. Those home games became absolute bankers before a ball was kicked and when that didn't happen after a rather quiet window up until Deadline Day the atmosphere began to noticeably turn.
I questioned the reasoning at the time, we had a poor preseason with very little activity and then sold Brennan to make way for a new cargo of signings. But we had a punt on a new goalkeeper (Beavis and Butthead) to replace Navas and a punt on a new left back to replace Renan Lodi. Right away we're worst off and thats before we lost Brennan.
Nuno has us playing better braver football, but as of yet its ineffective because the thing that haunted Coops is haunting Nuno and thats set pieces, individual errors and absolute fuckwits in goal. We look like a Premier League team but we're not going to be one if we keep making the same mistakes and the atmosphere in the ground is reflecting that. It reminds me so much of tuning in to watch Leeds and Leicester last season, the crowd dreading the inevitable.
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
Basically, the story of the summer for us was Brennan leaving. It might have seemed like it was optional to us, but knowing what we know now, he had to go and was always going to go. We knew we had probably breached the Profit and Sustainability with the January signings but banked on us selling Brennan in the summer to balance it out. If we sold him when Brentford wanted him, we'd have been fine but would have had less money to spend.
We did what deals we could get away with, like the Elanga one for example but yeah, pretty much, it was uphill for us all summer because we over-extended ourselves last year. All we've really bought ourselves is an extra season in the Premierleague.
Navas & Lodi are for me the big losses this season.
I hope Sangare turns out to be the guy but a midfield enforcer with quality is also what we need, Yates is not up to it.
chaospunx
Geoff Thomas
This 100% we look good in spells but even taking 6 points now it looks very hard to get the wins required to overcome it
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
If we can just stop conceding 2 or more goals a game, we'll soon be racking up the points.
That's Nuno's biggest challenge now, and he knows it as he said pre-match, being good defensively is the most important thing.
That's Nuno's biggest challenge now, and he knows it as he said pre-match, being good defensively is the most important thing.
Collymore!
Grenville Morris
I think we've got another 8-12 points in us max this season. Let's say we get a six-point penalty, then I don't see how we make 30 points.
Collymore!
Grenville Morris
True.
The club should have bought one decent LB, RB, and GK, but we didn't, so now we're woefully short on quality to impact change.
I think our midfield is a significant issue when considering our defensive record, but I don't know the answer there.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
You don't get relegated losing to Newcastle at home with 14 (?) to go, though you do when you concede three goals a game and look like shipping one every time the opposition has a set piece.
The worst thing for me is that I genuinely love most of this side - it's so close to being a very good side, and despite my love of Coops I even like that Nuno is proactive in trying to get a result - you won't see many more attacking forest lineups than the 11 that finished today. (Shame about the striker mind.)
Lots of damage done already - the goalkeeper situation has been ridiculous and having Origi as our second option simply isn't going to cut it.
Lots of ifs that could help us out, but really we've just got to hope that we click more frequently than we have so far, especially at home, and sooner rather than later.
Can we stay up? You bet we can. Will we? Depending on the FFP thing who knows - I think we've enough quality to do so without that, but with it, and with it hanging over us I'm really not so sure we will.
The worst thing for me is that I genuinely love most of this side - it's so close to being a very good side, and despite my love of Coops I even like that Nuno is proactive in trying to get a result - you won't see many more attacking forest lineups than the 11 that finished today. (Shame about the striker mind.)
Lots of damage done already - the goalkeeper situation has been ridiculous and having Origi as our second option simply isn't going to cut it.
Lots of ifs that could help us out, but really we've just got to hope that we click more frequently than we have so far, especially at home, and sooner rather than later.
Can we stay up? You bet we can. Will we? Depending on the FFP thing who knows - I think we've enough quality to do so without that, but with it, and with it hanging over us I'm really not so sure we will.
chaospunx
Geoff Thomas
At least the atmosphere was better today I thought as close to last season as its been so far maybe man u once we got the 2nd
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Tell you what though - I look at those fixtures remaining and think being it on... theres a handful of really tough ones and a load of others we could get a result out of.
f*** it, even in my rage I've got us as staying up, though realistically it comes down to the FFP thing, and I suspect we'll get as much luck there as we do with refs.
f*** it, even in my rage I've got us as staying up, though realistically it comes down to the FFP thing, and I suspect we'll get as much luck there as we do with refs.
I hate the Premier League.
I hate the coverage, I hate the mercenaries, I hate the scrutiny, I hate VAR, I hate the unfair playing field, I hate stupid overseers fans giving us shit on twitter, I hate the kick or times, I hate the fact I had a season ticket for 15 years but struggle for a ticket now, I hate Talk Sport, I hate scousers, I hate all of it.
Relegate us and give me my club back.
I hate the coverage, I hate the mercenaries, I hate the scrutiny, I hate VAR, I hate the unfair playing field, I hate stupid overseers fans giving us shit on twitter, I hate the kick or times, I hate the fact I had a season ticket for 15 years but struggle for a ticket now, I hate Talk Sport, I hate scousers, I hate all of it.
Relegate us and give me my club back.
Colbackstreet Boys
Jim Brennan
Gloomy, depressed and almost certain we're Championship bound, sadly.
As far I'm concerned we're on 11 points. I simply cannot foresee a scenario where the PL don't deduct points now they've set a precedent with Everton, and their lawyers will be building their case to punish City if/when and using us and the Toffees as the unfortunate whipping boys. It might not be as much as -10, but it could well be. It would be pretty unprecedented for a club with 8 points from safety to survive at this stage of the season.
Despite their obvious puff and effort tonight I just don't think this group has it in them to turn around a deficit that large. We have too many vulnerabilities, too soft an underbelly, and not enough experience or nous across the squad to turn this endless string of 3-2 defeats into 3-2 wins. I think there is too much to fix in 14 games to go on the sort of run that gets us enough points to keep us up. I truly, truly hope I'm wrong.
For those who haven't done so already, time to wake up and start realising just how much trouble we're in and how much we have fcuked it. It actually feels a bit existential. The next 24 months are heavily pregnant with the potential to get seriously, seriously ugly.
I'll still always turn up at that magical old cauldron like an excitable child, mind.
As far I'm concerned we're on 11 points. I simply cannot foresee a scenario where the PL don't deduct points now they've set a precedent with Everton, and their lawyers will be building their case to punish City if/when and using us and the Toffees as the unfortunate whipping boys. It might not be as much as -10, but it could well be. It would be pretty unprecedented for a club with 8 points from safety to survive at this stage of the season.
Despite their obvious puff and effort tonight I just don't think this group has it in them to turn around a deficit that large. We have too many vulnerabilities, too soft an underbelly, and not enough experience or nous across the squad to turn this endless string of 3-2 defeats into 3-2 wins. I think there is too much to fix in 14 games to go on the sort of run that gets us enough points to keep us up. I truly, truly hope I'm wrong.
For those who haven't done so already, time to wake up and start realising just how much trouble we're in and how much we have fcuked it. It actually feels a bit existential. The next 24 months are heavily pregnant with the potential to get seriously, seriously ugly.
I'll still always turn up at that magical old cauldron like an excitable child, mind.
WallyBazoom
Yoth Team
Mulligans Tyres was out of sync again, mind.
Goodness me, how I noticed it as I washed yet another handful of dry roasted peanuts down with cheap lager as I watched on my mobile phone screen from the comfort of my sofa.
#CooperIn #BringBackStevie #LegionOfDoom
chaospunx
Geoff Thomas
In the ground the one at the start of the game sounded loud as f*** from upper Bridgeford and alot of rhe geordies clapped it to be fair to them