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glosterred

First Team Squad
Haych said:
The points deduction will kill us, I have 100% confidence Nuno would get us enough points to stay up in a normal year despite him taking over a team who looked absolutely shite for weeks before he took over.

Anything north of 6 points deducted and I think we’re done.
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The team that was shite for weeks was also on course to stay up as well though.

I don’t understand why you site ‘100% confidence Nuno would get us enough points to stay up in a normal year’ as if that is an achievement you would be more than happy with, and yet it wasn’t deemed good enough under that last regime?

Surely the expectation from those not happy with the last regime, should be along the lines of ‘100% confidence Nuno would get enough points in a normal season to see us mid table’ as a minimum?

I’m on board with Nuno btw and have seen some encouraging stuff under him, but I do get a sense from some that the goal posts have been moved slightly in terms of what is now expected from the new manager.
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
Colbackstreet Boys said:
Gloomy, depressed and almost certain we're Championship bound, sadly.

As far I'm concerned we're on 11 points. I simply cannot foresee a scenario where the PL don't deduct points now they've set a precedent with Everton, and their lawyers will be building their case to punish City if/when and using us and the Toffees as the unfortunate whipping boys. It might not be as much as -10, but it could well be. It would be pretty unprecedented for a club with 8 points from safety to survive at this stage of the season.

Despite their obvious puff and effort tonight I just don't think this group has it in them to turn around a deficit that large. We have too many vulnerabilities, too soft an underbelly, and not enough experience or nous across the squad to turn this endless string of 3-2 defeats into 3-2 wins. I think there is too much to fix in 14 games to go on the sort of run that gets us enough points to keep us up. I truly, truly hope I'm wrong.

For those who haven't done so already, time to wake up and start realising just how much trouble we're in and how much we have fcuked it. It actually feels a bit existential. The next 24 months are heavily pregnant with the potential to get seriously, seriously ugly.

I'll still always turn up at that magical old cauldron like an excitable child, mind.
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Ageed,this is my biggest fear (i.e the slump and rot doesn’t stop at the end of the season-even
if we are relegated).
The mismanagement of the club could have very serious long term consequences.
 
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football post

I'm still here Crewton
Cloughie1975 said:
I sensed the mood on leaving the ground yesterday evening that many fans are now
resigned to our fate (perhaps for the first time this season).
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My thoughts exactly Cloughie. There's usually a lot of chat as people exit the car park but nobody could be bothered today, they just wanted to get out as soon as they could.
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
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My thoughts exactly Cloughie. There's usually a lot of chat as people exit the car park but nobody could be bothered today, they just wanted to get out as soon as they could.
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Yes-Forest fans on the train home were very down and silent.
Usually if we lose there’s a bit of banter and sometimes gallows humour but yesterday
felt a bit different.
 
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atrophy

A. Trialist
I'm on the fence now, though relegation is beginning to look a real threat. However, we've always got reasonable prices for any sales under this regime so I'd like to think if there are any relegation release clauses they won't be under market value.

We'd probably lose Murillo, Sangare, Gibbs-White and Awoniyi as a minimum but I'd hope there would be at least £150m there, probably some retire too but would get the wage bill down and with parachute payments providing the recruitment is better we could supplement an already strong championship squad. If we were to get promoted it would certainly be from a stronger base.

A lot of if's, but's and maybe's granted and we'd need to make sure we have a more than competent manager if Nuno were to leave.

That said, I've not given up hope of survival just yet.
 
Brian Fantana

Brian Fantana

Viv Anderson
We just have that look or smell about a team that goes down don’t we?

- We’re ‘unlucky’ with injuries
- We’re ‘unlucky’ with referee decisions
- Too many at AFCON ( Self inflicted)
- FFP charges sapping momentum (Self Inflicted)
- We consistently make the same mistakes over and over again - set piece defending being one area that surely can be improved on the training pitch.
- We’re always on the wrong side of a 3-2 game
- Two seasons in we’ve spent enough to get into FFP trouble and our 25 man squad names 5 keepers and Richie Lareya in it.


If we survive this season it will feel like a miracle.
 
Col Steve Austin

Col Steve Austin

Viv Anderson
Jesus Christ. Can everyone pull themselves together?!

Right. Firstly. "We would have won had Cooper been in charge"/"Cooper would keep us up, Nuno is taking us down". I'm sorry to break your rose tinted glasses but Cooper had entered the managerial death spiral and had to go, we'd be in the bottom three with him still in charge:

Cooper's last 7 games, 20th in the form table.
Nuno's first 7 games, 14th in the form table.

Of Nuno's 7 games'

1. Forest 2:3 Bournemouth. Shafted by the ref - the infamous Moussa red card.

2. Newcastle 1:3 Forest

3. Forest 2:1 Manc Utd

4. Brentford 3:2 Forest. The return of Saint Toney The Persecuted.

5. Forest 1:2 Arsenal.

6. Bournemouth 1:1 Forest.

7. Forest 2:3 Newcastle. Shafted by the ref - I don't even know why there's any debate over Taiwo's penalty under the current rules/VAR system, even Shearer said it should have been against his beloved barcodes, and the block on Dominguez. This is also after playing 120 minutes three days ago.

The above is also with Taiwo being out for 5.5 matches, AFCON, and a harder than it should've been cup run.

For the love of god will the bed wetters please go for a walk, have a cup of tea, have a wank or something. We're doing ok. We're visibly a better team now than under Cooper. Everton seem to have shit the bed recently, and Luton have remembered they're not suddenly prime Madrid.

We also have a good run of games from now until the end of the season, we only have to play a "big four" team twice - Liverpool at home on 2 March and City at home on 27 April.

The only other matches that look like pretty certain losses on paper are Villa away on 24 Feb and Spurs away on 6 April. Every single other game looks like an opportunity to pick up points.

So get a grip, people, FFS.
 
Col Steve Austin

Col Steve Austin

Viv Anderson
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Nuno's first 7
 
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trentside69

Viv Anderson
Col Steve Austin said:
Jesus Christ. Can everyone pull themselves together?!

Right. Firstly. "We would have won had Cooper been in charge"/"Cooper would keep us up, Nuno is taking us down". I'm sorry to break your rose tinted glasses but Cooper had entered the managerial death spiral and had to go, we'd be in the bottom three with him still in charge:

Cooper's last 7 games, 20th in the form table.
Nuno's first 7 games, 14th in the form table.

Of Nuno's 7 games'

1. Forest 2:3 Bournemouth. Shafted by the ref - the infamous Moussa red card.

2. Newcastle 1:3 Forest

3. Forest 2:1 Manc Utd

4. Brentford 3:2 Forest. The return of Saint Toney The Persecuted.

5. Forest 1:2 Arsenal.

6. Bournemouth 1:1 Forest.

7. Forest 2:3 Newcastle. Shafted by the ref - I don't even know why there's any debate over Taiwo's penalty under the current rules/VAR system, even Shearer said it should have been against his beloved barcodes, and the block on Dominguez. This is also after playing 120 minutes three days ago.

The above is also with Taiwo being out for 5.5 matches, AFCON, and a harder than it should've been cup run.

For the love of god will the bed wetters please go for a walk, have a cup of tea, have a wank or something. We're doing ok. We're visibly a better team now than under Cooper. Everton seem to have shit the bed recently, and Luton have remembered they're not suddenly prime Madrid.

We also have a good run of games from now until the end of the season, we only have to play a "big four" team twice - Liverpool at home on 2 March and City at home on 27 April.

The only other matches that look like pretty certain losses on paper are Villa away on 24 Feb and Spurs away on 6 April. Every single other game looks like an opportunity to pick up points.

So get a grip, people, FFS.
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I think too many people have been relying on the promoted teams to struggle and then when luton put a few wins together people started to realise we have to do our own work.
I see us going in the right direction and if we put the work in we will be safe. If we rely on other teams to help us we probably won't be safe.
 
Barry

Barry

Where's me hammer?
My mood is that it's becoming a chore going to games again and if it weren't for the fact that I get to spend a few hours chatting shit with my old man I probably wouldn't bother getting a ST next season no matter what division we are in.

Boring predictable football, where the challenge seems to be guessing which player this week will make the mistake that fucks us...not helped that refs are wank, they even managed to f*** VAR up, atmosphere has gone to shit, the facilities are wank, parkings wank, getting out the grounds wank, even got dripped on a few times from some kind of hole in the roof above that only affected me.... piss funny for my old man... not for me.

Don't help I'm usually rushing around to get to games from work but meh.

Any price increase and decisions made at this point because the matchday experience is non league at best

Only thing worse than a Premier league mercenary is a championship one and I predict we'll see 20 of them soon enough

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Redemption

Redemption

One less gobshite...
I'm not in denial about the possibility of relegation but some are catastrophising based on a sustainable Luton revival.

I'd be surprised if Luton don't get another bad streak. That's the nature of this league.

Assuming a 6pt deduction, wed need to generate a form 0.4ppg better than Luton. Which is doable imho.

Everton will probably get a couple of points back but a further reduction, so they'd need to be really on form. And currently, ib think there's a lot of mythologising over them and Dyche. During the Bournemouth game there was a graphic that showed we we worst in the league for set-piece conceding. 11 goals, IIRC, probably more now. Everton were 2nd with 9 goals conceded. That's a different narrative entirely.

That's where I'm drawing my hope from.
 
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