John Terry

[Dadford]

He's got it and, as a result, we can kiss our World Cup hopes goodbye. Somebody who has such frequent lapses in concentration should never be a leader on the pitch, not to mention someone who missed a drugs test which suggests to me he had something to hide. Capello's dropped his first clanger and I'm disgusted that the media witch hunt has been a success.

Media mainly newspapers, and some people base there voting on these rags opinions.

 

[Dadford]

This is what you get having a Catholic as England manager.

 

[red_outlaw]

Media mainly newspapers, and some people base there voting on these rags opinions.

I can't believe Capello's caved in though. His decision suggests to me that the FA have been meddling in spite of their protestations that the decision would be firmly down to Capello because he's always struck me as someone with a 'win at all costs' mentality.

Would Portugal have done the same to Ronaldo? I don't even need to answer that.

 

[red_outlaw]

This is what you get having a Catholic as England manager.

As infururiated as I am, I don't think religion had anything to do with it. What Terry did was wrong and nobody's excusing what he did but the decision was supposed to be a footballing one and Capello has always been adamant that all of his decisions are footballing ones. This decision smacks of having FA fingerprints all over it.

 

[Gingers Across the Midfield]

http://www.thenews.pl/sport/artykul116319_footballers-get-prison-in-match-fixing-scandal-.html

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[puds1970]

Well if Fabio Capello didn't realise the power a media story has in this country causes he does now.

The decision has been made now so lets just move on.

 

[D-BAR1970]

He's got it and, as a result, we can kiss our World Cup hopes goodbye. Somebody who has such frequent lapses in concentration should never be a leader on the pitch, not to mention someone who missed a drugs test which suggests to me he had something to hide. Capello's dropped his first clanger and I'm disgusted that the media witch hunt has been a success.

Terry has got no-one to blame but himself. He shouldn't have f****d around with another woman. He knew exactly what would happen if he got caught regarding the media.

 

[goatboy]

This is indeed all Terry's fault. We don't know what he and Cappello discussed, maybe Fabio called him some days ago and told him if he stood down he'd never play for England again, and that he would be spoken to on Friday (whereupon Cappello sacked him).

Ferdinand is a liability with his current form, albeit capable of immense performances, I recall once against the Argies he was impenetrable, nearly as good as Wes. He needs something to sort his head out and maybe the responsibility of captaincy will leave him little time for daydreaming, ball watching, falling down or making poor passing decisions.

Let's judge the very able manager upon the results of his choices, rather than the baby-fresh decision we are faced with today. It's too early to tell. Nevertheless, I'd not be in the least surprised if this takes another vertebrae from an already spineless group of talented but inconsistent international nearly men.


It is a conundrum though - what if your obvious captain is by some margin the best motivator, disciplinarian and communicator on the pitch and in the dressing room... but a frightful twat in his everyday life?

 

[red_outlaw]

Terry has got no-one to blame but himself. He shouldn't have f****d around with another woman. He knew exactly what would happen if he got caught regarding the media.

I hear what you're saying but I've been led to believe that the woman is question is the sort to throw herself quite aggressively at footballers in nightclubs. Having to reject those sorts of advances time after time is not an easy thing and the vast majority of red-blooded males would cave in eventually. We don't know the full story but, as far as I'm concerned, his leadership on the pitch is all that matters and that is second to none.

If Gerrard had been chosen to replace him, that would have gone some way to appeasing me (because he is another natural leader in spite of him being a Scouser) but Ferdinand's consistency continues to be questionable at best.

 

[Jonathan]

I've no sympathy whatsoever for John Terry and I'm not delighted about Rio getting the job if I'm honest.

I think all Capello has done is moved his vice-captain up to captain and third in line up to vice-captain now. Can't really complain about that.

There aren't many 'clean-cut' options when you think about it. Gareth Barry is really the only 'good boy' and I don't think he is automatic choice in the same way as a fit Rio, Gerrard or Lampard.

 

[winnits]

I've no sympathy whatsoever for John Terry and I'm not delighted about Rio getting the job if I'm honest.

I think all Capello has done is moved his vice-captain up to captain and third in line up to vice-captain now. Can't really complain about that.

There aren't many 'clean-cut' options when you think about it. Gareth Barry is really the only 'good boy' and I don't think he is automatic choice in the same way as a fit Rio, Gerrard or Lampard.

Why? He only had an affair - what's that got to do with football?

 

[Jonathan]

Why? He only had an affair - what's that got to do with football?

Not got a problem with him having an affair. It's the fact that it was with an England team-mate's girlfriend and that he did all he could to prevent it from becoming public knowledge in order to protect himself and his interests.

I just think that there is no way you can respect your captain if you're close to Wayne Bridge - which a lot of the England squad are - after he did something like this.

If he'd shagged a hairdresser like Cashley did, I'd call him a **** and be done with it.

 

[sebs]

blimey.

glad it's rio and not the cheating **** from liverpool.

 

[red_outlaw]

Not got a problem with him having an affair. It's the fact that it was with an England team-mate's girlfriend and that he did all he could to prevent it from becoming public knowledge in order to protect himself and his interests.

I just think that there is no way you can respect your captain if you're close to Wayne Bridge - which a lot of the England squad are - after he did something like this.

If he'd shagged a hairdresser like Cashley did, I'd call him a c**t and be done with it.

I thought it was rather telling that when a couple of Manchester City players wore 'Team Bridge' T-shirts, City's England players didn't. What's more, Bridge was never likely to make the starting line-up anyway with Cole as first-choice left back (yet another England player to have had an extra-marital affair).

 

[weasel]

I'm hardly inspired by Rio.

However in terms of JT, if he gets his head down and helps us lift the cup he'll be a hero.

Even though he's clearly a bit of a bastard in the private stakes, he could become even more of a legend if he now shows a lot of humility and dignity in an England shirt.

Over to you John.

 

[winnits]

Not got a problem with him having an affair. It's the fact that it was with an England team-mate's girlfriend and that he did all he could to prevent it from becoming public knowledge in order to protect himself and his interests.

I just think that there is no way you can respect your captain if you're close to Wayne Bridge - which a lot of the England squad are - after he did something like this.

If he'd shagged a hairdresser like Cashley did, I'd call him a c**t and be done with it.

Weren't they estranged? I'm not that au fait with the story as I've obv. been away for a few days, but I don't really see it as a problem.

 

[Jonathan]

I thought it was rather telling that when a couple of Manchester City players wore 'Team Bridge' T-shirts, City's England players didn't. What's more, Bridge was never likely to make the starting line-up anyway with Cole as first-choice left back (yet another England player to have had an extra-marital affair).

Do you not think City's England players did that so as not to further disrupt the morale?

One of them was Shaun Wright-Phillips who is well known to be Wayne Bridge's best friend in football. They're always together off the pitch.

Bridge will be going to the World Cup as back-up and no, he was never going to start ahead of Cole, but he'll still be going and Capello had to think about that.

As for Cole, see the last sentence of my post.

John Terry is still a vital part of the squad and I think all of this will have a positive effect on his game. He'll be working hard to show how much the team means to him.

Agree completely with what Weasel said. I'm not all too fussed about Rio getting the armband, but there aren't many great choices to be honest.

Weren't they estranged? I'm not that au fait with the story as I've obv. been away for a few days, but I don't really see it as a problem.

They're estranged now and have been since December I think, but the affair has been going on for a lot longer than that.

 

[winnits]

I still don't think it should have an affect on his job, although it does make him a bit of a ****.

 

[Gabriel]

i hope becks chins him. Becks knows how to have an affair and get away with it, Terrys just playing at being captain man

I fool with a dick can be a dad but only a real man can be a father to his kids - CUbas dad

 

[Jonathan]

I still don't think it should have an affect on his job, although it does make him a bit of a ****.

Like I said, I'm not that bothered about him having an affair as I'm not bothered about Ashley Cole other than him being a **** for cheating on Cheryl Cole.

It's down to the fact that he went behind the back of a team-mate both at club and country level to cheat with his girlfriend.

I don't think he should remain captain of his country for that reason - coupled with the way he tried to protect his interests by obtaining a 'superinjunction' gagging order on the News of the World.

 

[winnits]

Are you suggesting that if, in an office, a dude shags a colleague's missus he should be demoted?

 

[Jonathan]

No but they wouldn't be representing their country in that situation, would they.

I don't care if he remains Chelsea captain, but I don't think he should be England captain anymore. It's only my opinion - You're more than allowed to disagree with it!

 

[winnits]

Aye, I just find it odd.

I don't really care as I didn't particularly think him a good captain candidate anyway. Better than Rio though.

 

[Jonathan]

I agree with you on that. I don't think Rio should be the national captain either.

If I'm honest, my choice would have been Wayne Rooney. Think it would be the final piece of the jigsaw in terms of his maturity.

 

[clusternakker]

None of the players have a really good off field image and nowadays a captain needs to be an ambassador off the field as well