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James David Garner
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Danga
Formerly JLingz
Re: James Garner
If they sign De Jong as expected, I can't see how you can have him and Garner in midfield.
But anyway, the talking tactics twitter account made some interesting observations about what a difficult task Forest ask of Garner and Yates. They have to effectively cover sideline to sideline between the defence and the front 3. If our front three are playing high, that is a massive space to cover. It makes you appreciate Garner and Yates even more when you put it in to context.
If they sign De Jong as expected, I can't see how you can have him and Garner in midfield.
But anyway, the talking tactics twitter account made some interesting observations about what a difficult task Forest ask of Garner and Yates. They have to effectively cover sideline to sideline between the defence and the front 3. If our front three are playing high, that is a massive space to cover. It makes you appreciate Garner and Yates even more when you put it in to context.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
adam09
Super Koopa
Re: James Garner
Said that a few games ago. I was kind of hoping we would drop Zinkernagel a bit deeper to help them out to be honest. That or bring Layrea on and put Colback in the middle.
The ball was just going backwards and forwards over Garner and Yates' heads for the majority of the game.
Said that a few games ago. I was kind of hoping we would drop Zinkernagel a bit deeper to help them out to be honest. That or bring Layrea on and put Colback in the middle.
The ball was just going backwards and forwards over Garner and Yates' heads for the majority of the game.
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
Re: James Garner
Need him at his best at Wembley.
We'll see what's what after that.
Need him at his best at Wembley.
We'll see what's what after that.
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
Re: James Garner
There's no way Manure go into next season with Jimmy as a first rotation option. Maybe second or third.
Sure, Ten Hag might want to have a look at some point and see how he responds in training etc but his first concern will be how to integrate the signings they will undoubtedly make in this area. At least one will be WC level.
There's no way Manure go into next season with Jimmy as a first rotation option. Maybe second or third.
Sure, Ten Hag might want to have a look at some point and see how he responds in training etc but his first concern will be how to integrate the signings they will undoubtedly make in this area. At least one will be WC level.
Jah
Jack Armstrong
Re: James Garner
Why was this not Jimmy's goal? Surely the ball in was "on target" and was deflected in by the defender?
Why was this not Jimmy's goal? Surely the ball in was "on target" and was deflected in by the defender?
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Re: James Garner
MOM for me today. That early challenge near our box really set him up and he did us proud. Top lad.
MOM for me today. That early challenge near our box really set him up and he did us proud. Top lad.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Re: James Garner
Over all our loans, hope we get another year out of Jim the most. Regardless, he's a tree now.
Over all our loans, hope we get another year out of Jim the most. Regardless, he's a tree now.
Canadian_red
Grenville Morris
Re: James Garner
Brilliant today, put a hell of a shift in.
Brilliant today, put a hell of a shift in.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Re: James Garner
I hope we can now convince Man Utd to sell him personally.
I have said all season he has the most potential in our squad, he will play for England one day.
I hope we can now convince Man Utd to sell him personally.
I have said all season he has the most potential in our squad, he will play for England one day.
Any Time Now
Grenville Morris
Re: James Garner
That committed challenge on the edge of our area in the first half was proper, would imagine it got a smile from psycho
https://twitter.com/utdbradleyy/status/1530944850048188416
That committed challenge on the edge of our area in the first half was proper, would imagine it got a smile from psycho
https://twitter.com/utdbradleyy/status/1530944850048188416
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
Re: James Garner
I think a third loan spell might be best for all parties though. He'll probably not get a kick at United right now and we're not a threat to United.
Don't think we'd get a sale, he's really highly thought of there, unless it was essentially to buy back for what we pay for him.
I think a third loan spell might be best for all parties though. He'll probably not get a kick at United right now and we're not a threat to United.
Re: James Garner
For them it's a win/win situation, gets blood in at prem level with a team, coach and squad that his familiar with
For them it's a win/win situation, gets blood in at prem level with a team, coach and squad that his familiar with
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Re: James Garner
Don't forget the loan rules are changing so teams like Man U and Chelsea etc can't basically have whole reserve squads on loan.
The sell/buy back clause idea will probably become more common when they can't do that with as many players.
I don't think Garner is really that close to their first team, good as he has been for us, it's a completely different level where they want to be.
Though their new manager probably would like to focus on younger players the slower build that will have is probably not going to be quick enough for their fans - they haven't really won a lot since Fergie retired and that was a long while ago now. Assuming they do offload some 1st team MFs this summer they will probably replace them rather than promoting the likes of Garner.
He'd be good enough I'm sure for a bottom-half PL side which is almost certainly what we will be.
Don't forget the loan rules are changing so teams like Man U and Chelsea etc can't basically have whole reserve squads on loan.
The sell/buy back clause idea will probably become more common when they can't do that with as many players.
I don't think Garner is really that close to their first team, good as he has been for us, it's a completely different level where they want to be.
Though their new manager probably would like to focus on younger players the slower build that will have is probably not going to be quick enough for their fans - they haven't really won a lot since Fergie retired and that was a long while ago now. Assuming they do offload some 1st team MFs this summer they will probably replace them rather than promoting the likes of Garner.
He'd be good enough I'm sure for a bottom-half PL side which is almost certainly what we will be.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Re: James Garner
Sounds like the most likely outcome is another loan?
Sounds like the most likely outcome is another loan?
Heffing Psycho!
Steve Chettle
Re: James Garner
Issue becomes how late into the transfer window we're willing to wait.
Issue becomes how late into the transfer window we're willing to wait.
karteo
Jack Armstrong
Re: James Garner
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You won't. I don't think that united's new manager will give garner a chance at all. He needs ready and top class players and he is going to sign some.
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Ashley
Steve Chettle
Re: James Garner
That's what I think as well. Ten Hag will be under immediate pressure to deliver so he isn't going to take a chance on unproven players like Garner.
That's what I think as well. Ten Hag will be under immediate pressure to deliver so he isn't going to take a chance on unproven players like Garner.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Re: James Garner
I'm on the fence with this - on the one hand, he's very much followed the Ajax blueprint of bringing through young players from their academy (23 in 4 and a half years) and helping them improve - so that is part of his DNA.
On the other hand, this is Manchester United, who very much demand success, now, in a league that is far more competitive than the Eredivisie and any such systematic promotion of youngsters in the medium term, will require him to have the players in place now to buy him that time.
I'm on the fence with this - on the one hand, he's very much followed the Ajax blueprint of bringing through young players from their academy (23 in 4 and a half years) and helping them improve - so that is part of his DNA.
On the other hand, this is Manchester United, who very much demand success, now, in a league that is far more competitive than the Eredivisie and any such systematic promotion of youngsters in the medium term, will require him to have the players in place now to buy him that time.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Re: James Garner
The problem for them is CM is a real problem position and most of the money they spend will be on that position.
The problem for them is CM is a real problem position and most of the money they spend will be on that position.
Morpeth
John Robertson
Re: James Garner
Has this Twitter journalist got any actual idea about anything though? He’s a trainee along with about five others who all say the same thing.
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Has this Twitter journalist got any actual idea about anything though? He’s a trainee along with about five others who all say the same thing.
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Re: James Garner
Trent Hutson, to be fair, is right about as many times a day as a broken clock and that's when he's doing well. He's just a kid who doesn't really know anything.Has this Twitter journalist got any actual idea about anything though? He’s a trainee along with about five others who all say the same thing.
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Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Re: James Garner
To be fair I am pretty sure he broke Garner's signing last time before anyone else.
To be fair I am pretty sure he broke Garner's signing last time before anyone else.