Chelsea Fan Comments

[Flaggers]

You’re going to work in Spoons?


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[Otis Redding]

Apparently in the late 60’s Forest were one of the few teams to ‘take’ The Shed.

I remember going there a few times between 1966-70 Bryn. From my observations, I'd say that "taking the Shed" was probably a slight exaggeration, although things were always very lively.

I specifically recall going as a 17-year-old with a couple of mates early in the '66-67 season, only a matter of weeks after England won the World Cup. Because we also wanted to take in the King's Road scene - which was the hub of "Swinging Sixties London" at the time - we decided not go the usual way by a Barton's coach from Huntingdon Street bus station straight to the opposition ground, but to go earlier by train instead. Arriving at St Pancras, we caught the tube to Sloane Square at the top end of the Kings Road where, on leaving the tube-station we were immediately confronted by dozens, if not a hundred-or-so, Chelsea fans. Fortunately we weren't wearing Forest scarves (no replica shirts back then anyway), and managed to slip by them unnoticed as we were dressed very similarly to most of them - basically, regulation mod-style attire.

I remember that we managed to negotiate the entire King's Road without incident but on reaching the end, towards Stamford Bridge, the atmosphere dramatically changed with police all over the shop and meat-wagons screaming-by, with sirens blaring, every few seconds. A Forest mob had stormed the World's End pub, the main Chelsea fans' hangout, and mayhem had predictably ensued with running battles all over Fulham Broadway. As such, plod stopped Forest fans from getting anywhere near to the Shed End turnstiles, meaning that we were congregated on the-then open end opposit. I can't remember much happening after the final-whistle (for the record, we lost 2-1) although me and my mates had to keep our mouths shut on the tube-train, full of Chelsea fans, back towards central London.

 

[Statto]

Chernobyl was actually on my list of places to visit this year - but I decided to have a year of austerity and throw all my money at paying my mortgage off earlier.

I would actually like to go to Pripyat because it's clearly fascinating but probably in all likelihood going to be too dangerous for a long while to come.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

I would actually like to go to Pripyat because it's clearly fascinating but probably in all likelihood going to be too dangerous for a long while to come.

Pretty sure you can visit. Obviously exposure is monitored and time restricted.

 

[Sabri Natenagewitch]

Pretty sure winnits went a couple of years ago.

 

[Timothy Pope]

Pretty sure winnits went a couple of years ago.

And look what happened to him!


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[Viktor]

I would actually like to go to Pripyat because it's clearly fascinating but probably in all likelihood going to be too dangerous for a long while to come.

20,000 years!

Mate of mine went in October, he said it was great

 

[Strummer]

20,000 years!

Mate of mine went in October, he said it was great

Yeah, right up until he grew a second head.

 

[Statto]

Pretty sure you can visit. Obviously exposure is monitored and time restricted.

yes you can but how can you tell that the level of exposure is safe? The area wasn't consistently irradiated, some areas are worse than others, and not everyone will react the same as each other. Plus, the short term effects of ARS are clearly known, though HBO will have taken some artistic licence to make it more dramatic they really did die that quickly, plus the longer term effects (Scherbina will have died as a result of the exposure at the site) of a smaller dose over a 30-40 year period simply aren't known because it hasn't been there that long.

And that's assuming the area doesn't get any worse. The roof area was cleared up by pushing the radioactive graphite moderators back into the core. That made it possible to build the initial sarcophagus, but because the radiation limited their ability to build it, it soon failed (and was no doubt leaking radiation) and they needed to slide a second one over the first one. That could fail plus of course the radiation could also be leaching out through the ground. Gammas are nothing if not persistent.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Guy Martin had to wear a Gieger counter when he went

 

[Barry]

Guy Martin had to wear a Gieger counter when he went

Was it a real Geiger counter or a fake Irish one?

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[Viktor]

I binged a lot of Guy Martin stuff recently. He's brill, if not a tad odd.

 

[Barry]

Hes autistic ain't he? I like watching him on TV

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[Senior Flange Technician]

I do not think he's autistic, at least not more than most, he just cant do presenting so all his talking is in response to questions asked by the producer so it can look odd.

 

[Viktor]

Hes autistic ain't he? I like watching him on TV

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Something like that I think. That's how he avoided getting into proper trouble with his truckers license isn't it?

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Was it a real Geiger counter or a fake Irish one?

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I before E except after radiotherapy.

 

[Statto]

Guy Martin had to wear a Gieger counter when he went

3.6 Rontgen, not great not terrible
(I have a t-shirt with that on, and one which says "you didn't see graphite on the floor because there's none there" lol)

 

[congo_red_49]

yes you can but how can you tell that the level of exposure is safe? The area wasn't consistently irradiated, some areas are worse than others, and not everyone will react the same as each other. Plus, the short term effects of ARS are clearly known, though HBO will have taken some artistic licence to make it more dramatic they really did die that quickly, plus the longer term effects (Scherbina will have died as a result of the exposure at the site) of a smaller dose over a 30-40 year period simply aren't known because it hasn't been there that long.

And that's assuming the area doesn't get any worse. The roof area was cleared up by pushing the radioactive graphite moderators back into the core. That made it possible to build the initial sarcophagus, but because the radiation limited their ability to build it, it soon failed (and was no doubt leaking radiation) and they needed to slide a second one over the first one. That could fail plus of course the radiation could also be leaching out through the ground. Gammas are nothing if not persistent.

They've built a 'New Safe Confinment' which is scientifically sound and are undergoing a clean-up process funded by the EBRD, sure it's not 'safe' - but it's the safest it has been since the incident.

 

[Farmer Jack]

Don't you remember the shed at Chelsea, the Shed End? Some rather rough characters used to congregate there.

Oh right, one of those hoolie groups.

The Shed End was demolished when I was 5 years old.

 

[Bryn Gunn]

I remember going there a few times between 1966-70 Bryn. From my observations, I'd say that "taking the Shed" was probably a slight exaggeration, although things were always very lively.

I specifically recall going as a 17-year-old with a couple of mates early in the '66-67 season, only a matter of weeks after England won the World Cup. Because we also wanted to take in the King's Road scene - which was the hub of "Swinging Sixties London" at the time - we decided not go the usual way by a Barton's coach from Huntingdon Street bus station straight to the opposition ground, but to go earlier by train instead. Arriving at St Pancras, we caught the tube to Sloane Square at the top end of the Kings Road where, on leaving the tube-station we were immediately confronted by dozens, if not a hundred-or-so, Chelsea fans. Fortunately we weren't wearing Forest scarves (no replica shirts back then anyway), and managed to slip by them unnoticed as we were dressed very similarly to most of them - basically, regulation mod-style attire.

I remember that we managed to negotiate the entire King's Road without incident but on reaching the end, towards Stamford Bridge, the atmosphere dramatically changed with police all over the shop and meat-wagons screaming-by, with sirens blaring, every few seconds. A Forest mob had stormed the World's End pub, the main Chelsea fans' hangout, and mayhem had predictably ensued with running battles all over Fulham Broadway. As such, plod stopped Forest fans from getting anywhere near to the Shed End turnstiles, meaning that we were congregated on the-then open end opposit. I can't remember much happening after the final-whistle (for the record, we lost 2-1) although me and my mates had to keep our mouths shut on the tube-train, full of Chelsea fans, back towards central London.

Thanks for posting this, Otis. Always find this stuff interesting especially when the the fashions of the era are mentioned.
Would this be the era of white butchers coats or was that early 70’s?

Taking the Shed was probably my exaggeration, but I did read in a Chelsea book, don’t recall exactly which season but the author said Forest and Everton were the only to teams to attempt the Shed and did well.

 

[Otis Redding]

Thanks for posting this, Otis. Always find this stuff interesting especially when the the fashions of the era are mentioned.
Would this be the era of white butchers coats or was that early 70’s?

Taking the Shed was probably my exaggeration, but I did read in a Chelsea book, don’t recall exactly which season but the author said Forest and Everton were the only to teams to attempt the Shed and did well.

I don't recall seeing any butchers coats on display that day Bryn. I think it was the following season however when French-cut hairstyles had been replaced by skinheads, complete with Doc Marten's, Harrington jackets, calf-length Sta Prest and braces; a fashion that had rapidly moved north within a matter of months.