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Chelsea Fan Comments

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
And does anyone know where the owner of Chelski got his money from?
Or how he got it?
And is Chelski nothing but a big laundry?
 

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
2018 commercial revenue (everything outside of tv and matchday receipts):

Leeds 21.7m
Derby 11m
Forest 5.9m

And that's been the pattern for the last decade of figures I looked up. Over 50m less than Derby, well over 100m less than Leeds.

As for the PL no tv money is not some infinite source, we have to be able to compete on all fronts if we want any sort of sustained stay.
 

Ravi

Upper Decker
2018 commercial revenue (everything outside of tv and matchday receipts):

Leeds 21.7m
Derby 11m
Forest 5.9m

And that's been the pattern for the last decade of figures I looked up. Over 50m less than Derby, well over 100m less than Leeds.

As for the PL no tv money is not some infinite source, we have to be able to compete on all fronts if we want any sort of sustained stay.
It is a significant hindrance whilst we are in the Championship.

Leeds are a bigger club in terms of worldwide fanbase (shirt sales etc), but it is annoying that we bring in so little commercial revenue compared to Derby.

I've been in favour of moving to a modern ground, but that ship seems to have sailed, at least for a while.

Isnt part of the new PT Stand development commercial?
 

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
I know they have been up and down to the Prem, but even when they were a settled Championship club, Norwich had rebuilt their ground and refitted every stand with fine hospitality areas so that they made the match day experience better and provided commercial income throughout the year.

I suppose it helps to have Delia Smith advising on these matters, but it shows what can be done.

Hopefully our rebuilt Main Stand will have these areas and they will be introduced into other stands as they too are modernised.
 

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Steve Chettle
2018 commercial revenue (everything outside of tv and matchday receipts):

Leeds 21.7m
Derby 11m
Forest 5.9m

And that's been the pattern for the last decade of figures I looked up. Over 50m less than Derby, well over 100m less than Leeds.

As for the PL no tv money is not some infinite source, we have to be able to compete on all fronts if we want any sort of sustained stay.

The difference is that both Leeds and Derby have been in the Premier League during to past 2 decades and have received a far higher income from broadcasting rights which allows them to create other revenue streams, which furthers their commercial income.

The catalyst is getting promoted. There's only so much a club will pay for these things untill they are guaranteed broadcasting rights payments/parachute money.
 

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
The difference is that both Leeds and Derby have been in the Premier League during to past 2 decades and have received a far higher income from broadcasting rights which allows them to create other revenue streams, which furthers their commercial income.

The catalyst is getting promoted. There's only so much a club will pay for these things untill they are guaranteed broadcasting rights payments/parachute money.


Both over a decade ago, Leeds closer to 20 years than 10. I agree that tv rights give you more opportunities to improve facilities (though Leeds earned far less when they were last in the PL and also suffered a financial meltdown) but the CG just isn't fit to take advantage of opportunities.

I defy anyone who has experienced corporate hospitality at the CG to think it's a venue you'd entertain for a conference for instance.
 

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
It is a significant hindrance whilst we are in the Championship.

Leeds are a bigger club in terms of worldwide fanbase (shirt sales etc), but it is annoying that we bring in so little commercial revenue compared to Derby.

I've been in favour of moving to a modern ground, but that ship seems to have sailed, at least for a while.

Isnt part of the new PT Stand development commercial?


More than annoying, it's a huge handicap to dreams of promotion and places a financial burden on whomever our owners are. Leeds are indeed a bigger club and city, but not nearly 4x bigger...

There is talk of improving facilities in the Main Stand, to what degree given the physical size limitations we'll have to see. I tend to agree that we're unlikely to get a new stadium anytime soon, sadly.
 

Red Rooster

Viv Anderson
Hate Chelsea - I too am old enough to remember them as a middle of the road London club with gates of 14,000 regularly

Then the money came, superstars were bought, and everyone and his dog from the home counties, became a Chelski fan
 

Thomas

AMERICAN IDIOT
I do hope if we ever get promoted the Yanks won't bandwagon us because we're a "Niche" club with an interesting history and name.

I feel we've met our yank quota with Thomas.

I’m singlehandedly the best yank on this forum.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
I’m singlehandedly the best yank on this forum.

Tucson Hooligan is outside, and would like a word.

And beware, he’s usually armed with a machine gun.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
And does anyone know where the owner of Chelski got his money from?
Or how he got it?
And is Chelski nothing but a big laundry?
He obtained a state owned oil company worth several billion pounds for a fair market sum of money approximating to 1 pound 95 and a half-eaten mars bar.

Oh it was all COMPLETELY legal, ethical, moral, fair, open and honest.

They do have impeccably clean kit so yes. Any thoughts that massively inflated transfer fees can also be used to launder vast sums of dirty money are obviously completely wide of the mark and should not be entertained as other than vicious scurrilous rumour-mongering.
 

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion

garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
2018 commercial revenue (everything outside of tv and matchday receipts):

Leeds 21.7m
Derby 11m
Forest 5.9m

And that's been the pattern for the last decade of figures I looked up. Over 50m less than Derby, well over 100m less than Leeds.

As for the PL no tv money is not some infinite source, we have to be able to compete on all fronts if we want any sort of sustained stay.

More to do with the ineptitude of owner rather than the ground, as I assume that is April 18 and therefore carrys the stench of Fawaz? The new main stand is supposed to be UEFA spec and will probably have the corporate facilities you crave.

I personally prefer a pint and an asbestos cladded roof echoing to the sounds, but I realise I'm outdated.
 

Calvin Plummer

Viv Anderson
More to do with the ineptitude of owner rather than the ground, as I assume that is April 18 and therefore carrys the stench of Fawaz? The new main stand is supposed to be UEFA spec and will probably have the corporate facilities you crave.

I personally prefer a pint and an asbestos cladded roof echoing to the sounds, but I realise I'm outdated.


Nope, first season under EM and that's been the pattern for at least a decade - so for 3 owners...the common denominator is the CG.

Yup hopefully the new stand will help but there will be limitations given how much space is available.

Your position is definitely one I sympathise with but that does mean we 5-10m down on budget compared to our rivals, which makes promotion tricky.
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
Nope, first season under EM and that's been the pattern for at least a decade - so for 3 owners...the common denominator is the CG.

Probably difficult to change too much in that regard in the first season when the club was in a mess from top to bottom.
 

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
My friend Chunky was a 'shed boy' at Stamford Bridge until we played table tennis with Charlie Cooke just after he signed for Crystal Palace and Charlie got pissed and stood on the only table tennis ball in Teheran.

Chunky was so fed up he vowed never to watch Chelsea again. So he went off to sang in York Cathedral choir.

Those were the days when you had characters on and off the field. Now characters in the game are rarer than hen's teeth.
 

Ravi

Upper Decker
Nope, first season under EM and that's been the pattern for at least a decade - so for 3 owners...the common denominator is the CG.

Yup hopefully the new stand will help but there will be limitations given how much space is available.

Your position is definitely one I sympathise with but that does mean we 5-10m down on budget compared to our rivals, which makes promotion tricky.
I largely agree. The new stand is a start but , for instance, the corporate facilities at Pride Park are providing income for their club between matches whereas an old stadium like the CG is only of use on matchdays.

It looks like the club is staying on the CG site in the short to long term, so it's a moot point, but I really do hope something is done about the cramped BC Stand concourses.
 

garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
Probably difficult to change too much in that regard in the first season when the club was in a mess from top to bottom.

Is what I was getting at.

Also don't Derby own some restaurants on their retail park and a hotel/are proposing to build a hotel?
 

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
My friend Chunky was a 'shed boy' at Stamford Bridge until we played table tennis with Charlie Cooke just after he signed for Crystal Palace and Charlie got pissed and stood on the only table tennis ball in Teheran.

Chunky was so fed up he vowed never to watch Chelsea again. So he went off to sang in York Cathedral choir.

Those were the days when you had characters on and off the field. Now characters in the game are rarer than hen's teeth.

I thought this was the synopsis of the new Guy Ritchie film.

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Farmer Jack

Stuart Pearce
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