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Steve Chettle
What's that old saying... 'if petitions actually made a difference, they'd be illegal'
If you ask me I think anyone who is convicted of rape should be banned from being a pro footballer for life unless of course they are later proved innocent.
I'll be honest, it's a scary world where a woman can have sex with a man and later say, 'I was too drunk to consent' and the bloke ending up in Prison for 5-years.
She even admitted to going back to the hotel consensually - It's a crock of shit if you ask me.
some people need to take a good look at themselves or talk to someone who has actually been through this.
and likewise, some people should perhaps talk to someone who's been falsely accused of crimes similar to this.
It doesn't matter if they are later proven innocent, shit sticks, and there will always be people out there who claim "no smoke without fire".
I have no opinion on this case because I don't know nearly enough about it too judge, but i strongly believe that people shouldn't judge eithier way without hard evidence.
I got accused of it when I was younger and fortunately she dropped the accusation after I proved her wrong. But I was terrified at the same time as the rumour had already spread. Took a long time before people saw her for what she was.
My point is unless there is solid proof that he is guilty, we shouldnt judge him.
Would you be happy to have him at Forest?You do your time and that's it. You think kids are going to think it is ok to go to jail for 2 and a half years? The petition is pointless. Sheffield Utd don't want him someone else will take him, he's a talented lad. The facts of the case have nothing to do with the above sentiments but there is a lot of strong feeling here (it happened about 4 miles from me) that he was harshly found guilty. I'm not saying either way but the case was never clear cut.
Would you be happy to have him at Forest?
Don't know the specifics of the case but once an individual has done his time, he's done his time. I don't like Evans, I don't like Sheffield United. But if I've any issue with anything in this it's that there's a lot of reform needed for the victims, for the accused,for sentencing, for rehabilitation and for the public when someone has been through they system.
We can all agree there's a lot of fine tuning to be done. This case and the debate around it simply demonstrates that the more emotive the offence, the less likely we as a society are to deliver a measured, and therefore fair, response to it. We're getting better but there's a ways to go yet. If it's right for a man to be free, it's wrong to piss his natural talents away and that goes for anyone. Let the plumber plumb, the teacher teach and the sphere kicker kick the sphere. Anyone who decides unilaterally that footballers are role models for their children should have their children taken into care. The odd player, maybe but f***ing hell, guys. They're mainly dense, frequently unpleasant and often terrible at their jobs.
As a football fan though, bollocks to Ched Evans, he's a twat. Whatever he's done, or not.
...i strongly believe that people shouldn't judge eithier way without hard evidence.
My point is unless there is solid proof that he is guilty, we shouldnt judge him.
I wouldn't keep my job if I'd gone down for the same. Classic sheffield united.
Hard evidence/solid proof was presented in court and he was judged. What more do you want?
So many POV, all differing. I've followed this thread for a while, and seeing the opinions swing has been interesting. I have stopped replying many times. and will again, for a bit. I can see both sides, and have strong views on "alleged" views of not just this case but similar.....but nothing is EVER clear cut. Unless both parties invo;ved are there, nothing is clear cut.Unless there's a 3rd party, confirmed, everything else is heresay....surely? Even at times, 3rd party testimony is classed as heresay? When does celebrity overule evidence? When does valid evidence be discounted? FWIW, disgusted if he's allowed back into football. I don't care if he plays for ManU or Skegness, he has a right to ply his trade but being convicted of either a violent or sex oAnyffnce takes that right away, as contact with kids is par.
Anyone convicted of crimes against kids, sex crimes, crimes against elderly, etc should then be sentenced to go in London sewers, clearing the congealed fat out, for life. And made to sleep down there. And that's too good.James Herbert had the right idea.....
In my case it was clear cut. Id gone out with a girl for 2 years, we broke up, I got with her best mate (was a one night stand) and because she felt guilty she told everyone that listened I had abused her. It was after a few weeks of suffering and having breakdowns, I threatened to get the police involved that she back tracked and told the truth.
Getting back to the case in hand though, the lad to this day still denies rape, the girl has admitted she was blindingly drunk, she is probably ashamed of such an act and other circumstances point to it not being 100% truth either way. But if it is true, the lads done his time and its time to forgive.
Everyone deserves a second.chance.