The Official F.A. Cup Thread: Blackpool v Nottingham Forest (3rd Rd Replay) Wednesday 17th Jan 2024

[trentside69]

You can’t just have VAR for clear and obvious errors.
Knowing VAR is there emasculates the on field officials.
It is a case of having the game run by VAR, or not having VAR at all.
The Game’s Administrators point out the “pro’s” of having VAR, but have turned a blind eye to the “con’s”.
And it is the “cons” that far outweigh the “pro’s” both numerically and when weighed for importance.
But TV companies have dictated the agenda.
First they ruin the beautiful game with money, then they burn the corpse with VAR.

I think v.a.r should be used for goal line technology and serious fouls only.
Trying to work out offside decisions is just ruining the game.

 

[Morpeth]

I think v.a.r should be used for goal line technology and serious fouls only.
Trying to work out offside decisions is just ruining the game.

Define ‘serious’. Already doesn’t work.

Bin it, it’s shit.

 

[dr_horse]

Morgan scored his goal from on the 18 yard line. Papers next day 'Morgan hits 25 yard screamer'.

Even if they're measuring from his foot to the top corner, that's still only 20 yards.

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[Trents]

I had some Brazilian colleagues over to see me, just before Christmas, and they had never seen snow in real life before.

They were fascinated when it snowed in Stuttgart, and insisted on standing outside in it for a bit.

I experienced similar on an officer training course in Bravaria. Had a few South Africans so exited to see snow for the first time. Novelty soon wore off after an hour of digging around in the stuff

 

[Trents]

As for the match. Anyone who's played winter Sunday League will have recognised that type of pitch. No undersoil heating here. Rock hard, loads of sharp turned up bits of turf ready to part skin from your legs if you dare. Random bounces. A proper leveller. We still tried to keep it down though and not surprised to see some iffy rolls and touches. Blackpool knew the score and hoofed high and long, taking the pitch out of the equation.

We still did our best to throw it away, Blackpool should have nicked it with that one on one in the end. Didn't need the extra time, a bit more worried about the weekend now.

 

[Berkshire Red]

Even if they're measuring from his foot to the top corner, that's still only 20 yards.

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Not necessarily, it could have been further away if the ball is towards the touchlines.

But the point stands, it's all about sensationalism.

 

[witneyred]

A good old fashioned replay for the neutral.

Crotchless has no class in his post match comments

 

[congo_red_49]

As for the match. Anyone who's played winter Sunday League will have recognised that type of pitch. No undersoil heating here. Rock hard, loads of sharp turned up bits of turf ready to part skin from your legs if you dare.

Those were my favourite games. An early reducer on whichever highly skilled attacker was up against me and I knew I'd be having an easy day.

 

[Gyros Peter]

Those were my favourite games. An early reducer on whichever highly skilled attacker was up against me and I knew I'd be having an easy day.

Yup - I lived for the cold and rain on a Sunday morning!

 

[Dino]

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Worrall looks like he doesn't want to be there, ditto McKenna.

 

[congo_red_49]

Worrall looks like he doesn't want to be there, ditto McKenna.

Should have shot it on one of them Google phones with the 'best take' feature.

 

[dr_horse]

Not necessarily, it could have been further away if the ball is towards the touchlines.

But the point stands, it's all about sensationalism.

I took that into consideration. I was just doing it by eye but I got 20.22 yards and rounded down as it's not quite in the corner I realised after.



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[Strummer]

Those were my favourite games. An early reducer on whichever highly skilled attacker was up against me and I knew I'd be having an easy day.

A man after my own heart Congo; I played at Left Back, and always looked to get a naughty early one in on whoever I was lined-up against on the opposing side.

You had to be careful and do it when the officials weren’t looking of course.

 

[Gyros Peter]

Worrall looks like he doesn't want to be there, ditto McKenna.

Vlachademos and Omobamidele look like they've been caught in flagrante.

 

[magicwoand]

You can’t just have VAR for clear and obvious errors.
Knowing VAR is there emasculates the on field officials.
It is a case of having the game run by VAR, or not having VAR at all.
The Game’s Administrators point out the “pro’s” of having VAR, but have turned a blind eye to the “con’s”.
And it is the “cons” that far outweigh the “pro’s” both numerically and when weighed for importance.
But TV companies have dictated the agenda.
First they ruin the beautiful game with money, then they burn the corpse with VAR.

You could if you gave teams 3 challenges per game. a bit like Tennis. Then managers would have to weigh up if there was a significant error. and worth risking a challenge. The refs would have to return to trying to ref properly without the luxury having a var ref to 'sort it out' for them all the time.

 

[Captain Sinister]

You could if you gave teams 3 challenges per game. a bit like Tennis. Then managers would have to weigh up if there was a significant error. and worth risking a challenge. The refs would have to return to trying to ref properly without the luxury having a var ref to 'sort it out' for them all the time.

I can see your point, but I can't agree with it.
Football at the highest level is a fast, free-flowing game.
Incidents occur and the decision needs to be made instantaneously, and the only way that that can happen is for the on-field ref, aided actively by his linesmen, to make his decision. If he needs a few seconds to consider what he has just seen, so be it.
VAR officials are causing the fast, skilful game to degenserate into stop-start, which is fitting for Rugby Union, but totally wrong for Association Football.
There has been since the introduction a significant increase in soft-tissue injuries, and I think a significant causal factor is the players standing around for several minutes on numerous occasions during a game.
We have seen John stones, and now Ederson, pick up serious injuries becuase linesmen are instructed not to flag if there might be a goal, giving the responsibility to make the decision to some remote geezer at Stockley Park.
The only reason for VAR is that with the amounts of money at stake, the TV Moguls want to turn the beautiful game into a soap opera or fireside drama.
The 2 FA Cup replays I watched, Bristol v West Ham and Blackpool v Forest, didn't turn out to be classics in terms of football quality, but they were the 2 most exciting games I have watched all season, because there was no VAR, and the onus was on the onfield officials to actually be in control of the game.
Yes, they got the odd thing wrong, but nothing that was game changing, unlike VAR which consistently and frequently makes major, major errors.
Goal line technology is brilliant as the ref is almost instantly told "goal" or "no goal".
VAR has NO place in football.

 

[IJPS]

VAR should be more like cricket, where the opposition can have 2 chances to contest the onfield decision.

 

[Far have we travelled]

Worrall looks like he doesn't want to be there, ditto McKenna.

Agree about Worrall, but thought McKenna was ok.

 

[Sir John Borlase Warren]

VAR was needed for those history changing Hand of God or Lampard v Germany blunders, but they've made it disappear up its own backside. I think the lack of it and the ref's decisiveness were there for all to see in making last night's game watchable.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I still waited to celebrate our first goal!

Grass is still waiting to do so as his stream is only 6 minutes in.

 

[congo_red_49]

Agree about Worrall, but thought McKenna was ok.

I think he meant their faces in the picture, rather than how they played.

 

[Captain Sinister]

The players will be tired for Brentshite now though

I'd rather have avoided all of this

Brentford is one game in a season of 38, and win lose or draw will not dramatically change the season's final position.
The Blackpool game was far more important as it takes us immediately on the journey towards winning the FA Cup for the third time in our history.
On a game by game basis, each FA Cup game is vital in the pursuit of silverware.
And winning the cup gets us into Europe once again!
Unless an individual league game is a must win or we get relegated, then the individual game is rather less important.
Last night's game was the single most exciting game I have watched this season.
The Bristol city tie will also be exciting... no VAR!

 

[oxonred]

I think with VAR, Blackpool's second goal would have been chalked off. Swings and roundabouts.

To be honest I can’t see why it needed VAR to see that the guy climbed all over Murillo, very poor from the ref on that one imo.

 

[Est.1865]

Agree with the comment about the pitch, it was clearly still frozen in one corner. Injury waiting to happen, CHO tried to get off multiple times before finally getting his way

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Wowzas I had 16 notifications when I logged on this morning

Didn't think I was that sozzled last night!