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The Mood

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Louth Red

First Team Squad
The mood at away games is very different - normally starts loud but changes when we go behind. It picked up when we push hard but drops again. In stead of driving the team we are reacting to how we are playing. The last fifteen minutes was poor yesterday.
There is more criticism of the team selection - at Villa the reaction to selecting Niakhate at left back was rightly negative. We had no shape and paid the price very quickly.
At Brighton the selection and shape was met with incredulity. The change to 4 2 4 with twenty minutes to go cost us any chance of getting back into the game. I rarely comment on tactics but at Brighton I expected to start with the two wingers and a high tempo game given Brighton‘s game in Rome on Thursday. The heavy and wet conditions required us to have numbers in midfield and move the ball quickly.
The last twenty minutes we had the ball very little - this meant the wide players were not in the game, which meant no supply to the two strikers. Brighton flooded midfield and kept the ball easily.

We now enter the most important phase of the season. Team selection, good use of substitutes, and total commitment is crucial to our survival. Most teams at the bottom are treading water so it’s still in our own hands.

Players and supporters must unite and give their all. We must encourage the players to express themselves. Whatever our views about individuals, or the manager, or even the referee, only full commitment will carry us to a positive conclusion this season.

After leaving home at 5.00am yesterday, and arriving home at 10.30pm I decided to sleep on it before giving my view. Yesterday was an opportunity to gain something from the game instead of losing to an own goal.

WE MUST LEARN FROM IT AND QUICKLY

COYR
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
Captain Sinister said:
Let's hear a big shout-out for cloth caps, donkey jackets and whippets!
Players travelling to games on public transport.
All standing, no rich bastards exec boxes.
No foreign governments or crime syndicates owning clubs.
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Yeah! And hooliganism, casual racism, outdoor toilets and polluting coal-fired power stations. Halcyon days.
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
andyjm1983 said:
We're going to be building more coal power stations
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Well, of course. In 2024 we've got inflation, high taxes, two tired political parties nobody wants, a Russian menace and train strikes. A coal-fired power station completes the 1973 set.

(It's actually gas the government is planning. The last coal-fired UK power station at Ratcliffe will close soon, I think?)
 
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andyjm1983

First Team Squad
Malwood said:
Well, of course. In 2024 we've got inflation, high taxes, two tired political parties nobody wants, a Russian menace and train strikes. A coal-fired power station completes the 1973 set.

(It's actually gas the government is planning. There aren't and won't be any coal-fired UK power stations. Only in Germany.)
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Oh sorry gas then, I'm not bothered anyway mate, I'd leave this country tomorrow if I could.
 
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andyjm1983

First Team Squad
Malwood said:
Well, of course. In 2024 we've got inflation, high taxes, two tired political parties nobody wants, a Russian menace and train strikes. A coal-fired power station completes the 1973 set.

(It's actually gas the government is planning. There aren't and won't be any coal-fired UK power stations. Only in Germany.)
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Inflation has dropped quite a bit now and still dropping, inflation is high throughout Europe
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
This has been a disappointing season. But it's still the best forest team ever. Every match (as in, literally every match) I see a moment of skill or a passage of play that no Forest player would ever have been able to do before. So it's not all bad.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Malwood said:
This has been a disappointing season. But it's still the best forest team ever. Every match (as in, literally every match) I see a moment of skill or a passage of play that no Forest player would ever have been able to do before. So it's not all bad.
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From a technical skill level I think you're right, but I can think of several sides of ours that beats this one comprehensively, and I don't quite go back as far as the European days.
 
football post

football post

I'm still here Crewton
Gyros Peter said:
From a technical skill level I think you're right, but I can think of several sides of ours that beats this one comprehensively, and I don't quite go back as far as the European days.
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Me too. That late 80s team was far better with the likes of Pearce, Walker, Hodge, Webb, Clough - and it had a winning mentally. They didn't crumble away from home like this lot.
 
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Cloughie1975

John Robertson
football post said:
Me too. That late 80s team was far better with the likes of Pearce, Walker, Hodge, Webb, Clough - and it had a winning mentally. They didn't crumble away from home like this lot.
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I saw them crumble more than once against the bully boys of Wimbledon-that’s why the
European Cup team were better (they had a meaner streak).
The late 80s side were a beautiful footballing side though and a joy to watch-a team
assembled with some planning and thought (unlike the current bunch who aren’t really a well
constructed unit).
The 83/84 UEFA Cup side would beat our current team easily as well.
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
Cloughie1975 said:
The 83/84 UEFA Cup side would beat our current team easily as well.
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They wouldn't though, because football has changed so much. Because all players nowadays are more skilful than Pele we kind of lose sight of how good players are now. Remember twenty years ago only Glenn Hoddle-style players could ping the ball across the pitch to the opposing winger, and there'd be an appreciative ripple of applause when someone did?

Now a championship centre-half can do that without even trying, and no-one notices because that's the absolute bare minimum.
 
Rockabilly

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Malwood said:
They wouldn't though, because football has changed so much. Because all players nowadays are more skilful than Pele we kind of lose sight of how good players are now. Remember twenty years ago only Glenn Hoddle-style players could ping the ball across the pitch to the opposing winger, and there'd be an appreciative ripple of applause when someone did?

Now a championship centre-half can do that without even trying, and no-one notices because that's the absolute bare minimum.
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Today's team wouldn't last five minutes on those 1970s muddy pitches, not forgetting the snow covered and icy pitches too. 😁
 
alabamared

alabamared

Stuart Pearce
Malwood said:
They wouldn't though, because football has changed so much. Because all players nowadays are more skilful than Pele we kind of lose sight of how good players are now. Remember twenty years ago only Glenn Hoddle-style players could ping the ball across the pitch to the opposing winger, and there'd be an appreciative ripple of applause when someone did?

Now a championship centre-half can do that without even trying, and no-one notices because that's the absolute bare minimum.
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No. The game is faster and more athletic I will give you that but there have always been skillful players who transend any time. I do also think that the increased demand for athleticism does increase the number of injuries, I have not done any research but it seems to me that teams would get through a season using as few as 14 or 15 players.
 
Notcher

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
You can't compare the players of yesteryear with modern day footballers, the comparison is never true or fair.

Footballers of today have access to the best coaching, facilities pitches, diets and technology. It's just realistic to compare a 1970's footballer that played on mud pits, shite coaching methods and very little in the way of diet and athletic fitness. If you picked a young Pele up and plonked him in the current day with access to what today's players have you don't know what he could have been.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Notcher said:
You can't compare the players of yesteryear with modern day footballers, the comparison is never true or fair.

Footballers of today have access to the best coaching, facilities pitches, diets and technology. It's just realistic to compare a 1970's footballer that played on mud pits, shite coaching methods and very little in the way of diet and athletic fitness. If you picked a young Pele up and plonked him in the current day with access to what today's players have you don't know what he could have been.
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Added to which, the modern player is cosseted by the rules that (hopefully) prevent injury so much as in the 1970s.

If you look at some of the - ahem - treatment dished-out by defenders in the 70s compared to today, it looks like a different game.

Can you imagine what a player such as Johan Cruijff would do in the modern era? Or Franz Beckenbauer?
 
Fitzcarraldo

Fitzcarraldo

Ian Storey-Moore
I'll cheer up when Sarri is anounced on Monday.
 
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