Harvey
Chrissy Cohen
It all could have been so different if he hadn't missed that penalty
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Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
I'd be very surprised if Steve Cooper doesn't have a sound reason for the decision.
Steve also comes across as the type of manager who would have discussed the situation fully with Joe - not that it will prevent people from making uninformed assumptions.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I do agree but at the same time it sends out a clear message that we are moving on and you should too.
If you let him continue training with the first team I imagine the desire to leave the club would be reduced & he just ends up sticking around.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
Its exactly the sort of situation where you have to seperate sentiment from realism, its not nice and I feel for him, really do.
If were all honest with ourselves though, he's not been good enough for a long time at Championship level.
I wish him well, unless he joins the sheep shaggers then I wish him nothing but bad luck.
Thanks for the menories Joe
If were all honest with ourselves though, he's not been good enough for a long time at Championship level.
I wish him well, unless he joins the sheep shaggers then I wish him nothing but bad luck.
Thanks for the menories Joe
Harvey
Chrissy Cohen
I suppose the counter argument would be it's hardly good for Joe to be training with a side that he knows he's never actually going to play with, not to mention pointless.
It could also be the case that he isn't interested in a move and wants to see out his contract at Forest. If that were the case I think the club is justified in asking him to train with the U23s personally.
Bonfy177
LTLF MORON
Its exactly the sort of situation where you have to seperate sentiment from realism, its not nice and I feel for him, really do. Said with a certain amount of empathy
If were all honest with ourselves though, he's not been good enough for a long time at Championship level. again honest but with feeling
I wish him well, unless he joins the sheep shaggers then I wish him nothing but bad luck. Brutal
Thanks for the menories Joe
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I've heard that Da Costa and Silva have also been told to find new clubs and train with the U23s as well. Its nothing personal against Lolley (or the others training with the U23s), but like you say it is a clear statement that they are no longer in our plans.
Letting them continue to be around the first team might give them false hope that they can be part of the squad for our Premier League campaign, which won't do any party any good really. Best to be clear and upfront, allowing everyone to know where they stand so those that need to move on can now focus on doing so.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Long since time for both parties to move on. Football is ruthless but Joe had a good time here, well liked, earned decent money. Hope he finds a decent club in league one if not the Championship.
Harvey
Chrissy Cohen
Don't get me wrong I don't think Joe has a bad bone in his body and at his best was a fantastic player for us.
The problem is he was only at anything near his best in one game last season away at Huddersfield so it's not surprising he isn't part of Cooper's plans going forward.
His season in comparison to those around him was perfectly summed up in that penalty miss in the playoffs.
The problem is he was only at anything near his best in one game last season away at Huddersfield so it's not surprising he isn't part of Cooper's plans going forward.
His season in comparison to those around him was perfectly summed up in that penalty miss in the playoffs.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
Incremental expression! I do feel for him or anyone else in the same boat really. I know they are paid well but you do wonder if players of Lolleys calibre are set for life, unlikely Id say. Its easy to see why players go where the money is.
The Tubby Winger
Youth Team
Sad for Joe but throws relief on the nature of the game. Managers and players get crucified for lack of loyalty when they want a move during the good times but nothing much is said if their form/standards are seen to drop and they're forced out. For a season or so, Joe was our brightest light and deserves our thanks. I am sure Coops has handled this properly.
This is disappointing news but unfortunately it’s how it has to be. It may be heartless and ruthless and blatantly brutal but we can’t carry and accommodate players who aren’t able to perform consistently at this level.
This season is going to be tough and we need the very best out of every player for every game. If that’s not possible for whatever reason then changes need to be made.
There will be new opportunities for Lolley but sadly not in our first team.
This season is going to be tough and we need the very best out of every player for every game. If that’s not possible for whatever reason then changes need to be made.
There will be new opportunities for Lolley but sadly not in our first team.
mysteryduck
First Team Squad
Interesting. I thought he would have stuck around and been amongst the subs a bit, as we still have a small squad and you're allowed 9 on the bench. I guess this suggests there are still plenty more signings to come, or we're confident of using some academy players on bench.
Good luck to Joe anyway.
Good luck to Joe anyway.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
It seems harsh but I understand why managers separate players in this manner who are not part of their first team plans.
Unlike some other managers, I'm almost certain Cooper would have discussed the situation in detail with Lolley, explaining his reasons.
It's better than giving a player false hope, and risking an unhappy and disappointed player to be mixing amongst the first team when we're looking to continue building a positive vibe going into our first Premier League season in 23 years. It just makes complete sense from a employer/managerial standpoint.
Unlike some other managers, I'm almost certain Cooper would have discussed the situation in detail with Lolley, explaining his reasons.
It's better than giving a player false hope, and risking an unhappy and disappointed player to be mixing amongst the first team when we're looking to continue building a positive vibe going into our first Premier League season in 23 years. It just makes complete sense from a employer/managerial standpoint.
Des Walker Texas Ranger
First Team Squad
“Forced to train” and “dumped into the 23’s” all sounds a bit dramatic to me
I’m sorry for Lolley but I’m sure he’s been told the situation in a fair way. Cooper is all about showing the love. This is just a big dollop of tough-love in this case
It’s also absolutely the right thing to do. The club will be looking to help Joe find a move that suits and in the meantime he’ll train and maintain fitness with the 23s - who, as we have seen more and more frequently, are integrated with the first team squad anyway!. I don’t think for a second poor old Lolley had been told to do laps by himself with a bell around his neck.
I hope a decent championship side take a punt on him and he stays fit enough to regain some of that confidence that translated onto the pitch in such awesome fashion just a few short years ago
There’s a Danish lad playing in Greece who’d be a good replacement for his place in the squad
I’m sorry for Lolley but I’m sure he’s been told the situation in a fair way. Cooper is all about showing the love. This is just a big dollop of tough-love in this case
It’s also absolutely the right thing to do. The club will be looking to help Joe find a move that suits and in the meantime he’ll train and maintain fitness with the 23s - who, as we have seen more and more frequently, are integrated with the first team squad anyway!. I don’t think for a second poor old Lolley had been told to do laps by himself with a bell around his neck.
I hope a decent championship side take a punt on him and he stays fit enough to regain some of that confidence that translated onto the pitch in such awesome fashion just a few short years ago
There’s a Danish lad playing in Greece who’d be a good replacement for his place in the squad
adam09
Super Koopa
Assume we are confident of 2/3 more attackers coming in then?
Neurotica
First Team Squad
I think Lolley is the type of person/player who may even choose to retire. He’s an intelligent bloke and has spoken in the past about there being more to life than football. If the injury’s going to stop him from playing to his full ability he may call it a day.
Harvey
Chrissy Cohen
I'm still not exactly sure what his injury problems are but he's never been the same since.
Sad really because he's a talented lad, but best for him to move on now I think.
Sad really because he's a talented lad, but best for him to move on now I think.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
You might be right. He talks a lot about politics and being an avid Labour supporter.
If he can't get it together anymore in a football sense, I can see him exploring other avenues with passion and integrity.
Harrison
Jack Armstrong
A shame but the right decision. He just didn’t look right towards end of season, and couldn’t even hit a ball cleanly. Will still do a job for a mid table Championship team.
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
I wish nothing but the best for him. His star shone very bright for a while, and I'll always have fond memories of his time at Forest. Like Samba's heroics in the semi-final, we may never have reached the PL were it not for his positive persistence at Bramall Lane. Good night, sweet prince.
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BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
Muscle compartment syndrome - https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/compartment-syndrome/
Joe admitted last season that his injury issues had affected his confidence. When he was fit and able to beat some players again, he suddenly felt like he had life in him again. Then he'd get another setback. So it was soul destroying really. Very sad, but in the Premier League we can't rely on players who are struggling like that. He looked decent in some games last season and I thought 'Ok, he's getting there' but in reality he never was.
Dirk Furtull
John Robertson
I always hoped he'd get back to something like his old form but it'll be elsewhere if he does now. Real shame, a very exciting player and we poss saw the best of him so it's a sad farewell Joe, all the best in whatever you do next.
Love you Lolley.
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Love you Lolley.
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Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
I think when you get to the point you can't trust your own body it's the beginning of the end. Michael Owen admitted that he wouldn't run at full speed after all his issues because he was so scared his hamstrings or achilles would go again and he became a midday shadow of himself. Maybe it's similar with Lolley. He's also lost his shooting boots, but again is that psychological because he's snatching at chances. It's a real shame.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
Completely agree. We'll probably only find out the extent of how much it affected him psychologically when he retires.
But I suspect the same as you. Michael Owen is a good example. Another explosive runner when he picked the ball up. But once he suffered a serious injury, he was hesitant to push himself in that same way again.