Financial Fair Play (FFP)

[Hawkeye1947]

Question regarding FFP.
I understand that all clubs come under the FFP regulations and are limited to x amount of money.
What are the rules when teams get relegated from the Premier League and receive parachute payments.
I suspect that they have the FFP figure plus the parachute payment. Is that correct.

 

[JordanForest]

Re: FFP

Question regarding FFP.
I understand that all clubs come under the FFP regulations and are limited to x amount of money.
What are the rules when teams get relegated from the Premier League and receive parachute payments.
I suspect that they have the FFP figure plus the parachute payment. Is that correct.

Yes

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[Eddie Yates]

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They can spend as much as they want and nobody gives a toss especially if they are a London club

 

[Bryn Gunn]

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'Arry will get around it at Brum.

 

[Strummer]

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'Arry will get around it at Brum.

He will probably make his dog the Financial Director.

 

[Ravi]

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Under the new Parachute Payment rules clubs get around £87m spread over three seasons after relegation. Unless they're only in the Premier League for one season in which case they get two years worth.

 

[Clifford]

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You can lose £13 million per season, averaged over 3 seasons. Any income they bring in, including parachute payments can be spent.

For us, we probably didn't lose that much last season after the Burke sale so should be OK to spend if we want to this summer.

Outside of that if the new owners want to invest above that amount, they need to do it in the form of development costs such as investment in facilities and the youth team as these are excluded from the allowable loss.

 

[siforest65]

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I'm sure I read that Leicester did a bit of dodgy dealing and basically told the authorities to f*** off or am I imagining it?

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

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Are we talking about FFP and sanctions as they apply to Forest, or as they apply to every other club?

Two very different things.

 

[Eddie Yates]

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I'm sure I read that Leicester did a bit of dodgy dealing and basically told the authorities to f*** off or am I imagining it?

Yes along with QPR, Bournemouth etc

 

[Ravi]

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The secret is to get promoted, then you only have to pay a fine. Bournemouth were fined about £7m. Or you can challenge it in the courts like QPR and Leicester and wait for arbitration.

 

[valspoodle]

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It should depend on money spent not money lost. Rich owners can afford to lose money with no problem, but rich owners, under this system, are not allowed to lose money.

Sort of bondage without the fun (if that's your kind of fun).

 

[Barry]

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Swaggers leather chaps sent up

 

[Strummer]

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Nothing wrong with a bit of 'S&M.

 

[Gingers Across the Midfield]

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Nothing wrong with M&M's

 

[ForestWon]

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Anyone know when the decision regards QPR hiding their losses when got promoted to the Premium a few years ago will be made? Or have they got away with their £60 million + loss?

 

[ForestWon]

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Anyone know when the decision regards QPR hiding their losses when got promoted to the Prem a few years ago will be made? Or have they got away with their £60 million + loss?

 

[I'm Red Till Dead]

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39950114

Set for resolution soon according to above, Leaves a few questions though

Is soon the conventionally acepted meaning of soon or the much woollier Pineapple version?

Will QPR have to pay a fine or will the Football League have to pay QPR compensation because they are a London club and their finances shouldn't be questioned?

 

[Barry]

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They will get off with it...london club innit

 

[Erik]

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The way FFP is structured and applied means that those who breach it and get promoted the to the Premier League can then ignore it by paying a sum of approximately 5% of the television money they receive from their first year in the top tier.

The rest struggle to make ends meet and those who fail to comply and not get promoted get fines and embargos that put them in fear of relegation from the Championship.

All very fair and geared towards ensuring an elite until such time as they openly have the balls to tell the rest of the football pyramid outright that they have made it a closed shop.

 

[Strummer]

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All very fair and geared towards ensuring an elite until such time as they openly have the balls to tell the rest of the football pyramid outright that they have made it a closed shop.

Which, I maintain, is still the long term goal - as per the American model, a closed league with no relegation and no need to prop-up the remaining 72/74 clubs, consolidating all the money at the top.

 

[Barry]

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Which, I maintain, is still the long term goal - as per the American model, a closed league with no relegation and no need to prop-up the remaining 72/74 clubs, consolidating all the money at the top.

I know its the fashionable thing on here to hate the premier league but i don't agree with you there, part of the product is the uniqueness of the British pyramid.....for a start this weekend you have two teams competing in the richest game in football.... you get more eventual "prize" money winning the play offs than the champions league and the la liga combined.

I think its 25 years old next year and if they were gonna do it, it would have been done by now.

Your more likely to get a euro breakaway league imo.

 

[account deleted]

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British fans aren't the same as American ones though and I don't think there's any appetite for a system that 'locks in' the Premier League teams by doing away with relegation.

Winning the Championship is great but promotion is the ultimate prize and if you take that away it makes the whole thing a bit pointless imo.

 

[Ricochet]

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I know its the fashionable thing on here to hate the premier league but i don't agree with you there, part of the product is the uniqueness of the British pyramid.....for a start this weekend you have two teams competing in the richest game in football.... you get more eventual "prize" money winning the play offs than the champions league and the la liga combined.

I think its 25 years old next year and if they were gonna do it, it would have been done by now.

Your more likely to get a euro breakaway league imo.

If the big boys do breakaway the premier would turn into the old division One,happy days.

 

[Barry]

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If the big boys do breakaway the premier would turn into the old division One,happy days.

Hopefully that will mean a return of Elton Welsby