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Ethan Shea Horvath

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Yeah he went to Harrow and got 14 As at GCSE and A-Level so he’s obviously smart. I think he’d have been alright money-wise even without football seeing as his dad was worth about 150m


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Lol

I do seem to recall at the time a lot of ND's "wealth" was actually in the business, which was a partnership anyway, and also, given the nature of what they did (buy failing businesses, restructure them and sell them when profitable) that the wealth wouldn't exactly be fluid anyway.

Given that ND predeceased his wife and I think Michael has at least one sibling it's possible he won't have inherited any or much of his father's estate though obviously it's guesswork, I'd imagine most often this kind of thing, it goes to the partner first, unless he'd specifically wished otherwise; though as he died relatively suddenly and quite young it's possible nothing had yet been planned for... Saying that, I suppose his mom could give him money...
 

Master Yates

John Robertson
Lol

I do seem to recall at the time a lot of ND's "wealth" was actually in the business, which was a partnership anyway, and also, given the nature of what they did (buy failing businesses, restructure them and sell them when profitable) that the wealth wouldn't exactly be fluid anyway.

Given that ND predeceased his wife and I think Michael has at least one sibling it's possible he won't have inherited any or much of his father's estate though obviously it's guesswork, I'd imagine most often this kind of thing, it goes to the partner first, unless he'd specifically wished otherwise; though as he died relatively suddenly and quite young it's possible nothing had yet been planned for... Saying that, I suppose his mom could give him money...

I don’t think he’d have needed a maintenance loan for uni mate


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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Pretty much every rich persons wealth is 'tied up' in a business whether it's through direct ownership or equity holding. The ultra wealthy don't have millions sitting in their NatWest savings account.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
Ethan Horvath kept a clean sheet on his on loan debut for Luton town in their opening game of the season v Birmingham City.
Made a couple of smart saves and dealt well with some testing crosses and corners.
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
Ethan Horvath kept a clean sheet on his on loan debut for Luton town in their opening game of the season v Birmingham City.
Made a couple of smart saves and dealt well with some testing crosses and corners.
I thought he'd do well there - they were clearly looking for a number 1, with the departed Sluga and Shea splitting time there - neither of whom conceded many goals despite not being highly rated.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Hmmmm... Scares the life out of me with the ball at his feet but 9 clean sheets for Luton so far. (Total) recall?
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
He isn't good enough for us in the PL, so nope
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
He's American.
And the number of successful American players in the UK and Europe is not great.
They remain some way behind the rest of the world in terms of skill an application.
I think it is because the top American athletes coming through still go towards the American only sports: American Football, Baseball, Basketball.
It is really the youngsters who don't have a shot at being a pro in those sports who are attracted to soccerball.
For a nation of >200 million people, they produce nowhere near the level of talent in soccerball players.
Yet.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
He's American.
And the number of successful American players in the UK and Europe is not great.
They remain some way behind the rest of the world in terms of skill an application.
I think it is because the top American athletes coming through still go towards the American only sports: American Football, Baseball, Basketball.
It is really the youngsters who don't have a shot at being a pro in those sports who are attracted to soccerball.
For a nation of >200 million people, they produce nowhere near the level of talent in soccerball players.
Yet.
This will change over the next decade. There has been a 48% decline in people participating in American football over the last 12 years. This is mainly due to parents concerns over head injuries as new medical studies have emerged.

Football is now the fourth most popular sport in the USA and has overtaken ice hockey for the first time.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
He's American.
And the number of successful American players in the UK and Europe is not great.
They remain some way behind the rest of the world in terms of skill an application.
I think it is because the top American athletes coming through still go towards the American only sports: American Football, Baseball, Basketball.
It is really the youngsters who don't have a shot at being a pro in those sports who are attracted to soccerball.
For a nation of >200 million people, they produce nowhere near the level of talent in soccerball players.
Yet.
I think your assertion that he made that error because he's American is a bit of a stretch Captain.
 

Chappers85

Can't Play Left-Back
He's American.
And the number of successful American players in the UK and Europe is not great.
They remain some way behind the rest of the world in terms of skill an application.
Broadly true but they do tend to produce some half-decent keepers (making a sweeping generalisation here, but I'm guessing because American sports are all about catching that's the one position they're more naturally suited to). Brad Friedel, Tim Howard, Kasey Keller, Marcus Hahnemann and Brad Guzan have all played in the Prem...the former three a lot. Matt Turner the current USA #1 is backup at Arsenal. Zack Steffen is currently Boro's number 1 (on loan from Man City) didn't even make their World Cup squad (but Horvath did). To me he seems a decent Championship keeper.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
He's American.
And the number of successful American players in the UK and Europe is not great.
They remain some way behind the rest of the world in terms of skill an application.
I think it is because the top American athletes coming through still go towards the American only sports: American Football, Baseball, Basketball.
It is really the youngsters who don't have a shot at being a pro in those sports who are attracted to soccerball.
For a nation of >200 million people, they produce nowhere near the level of talent in soccerball players.
Yet.
Not sure that's true.

The USMNT isn't that good and actually they rarely produce a good team or top players (with apologies to Dogtits) but one area where they have always managed this is keepers.

Now I'm not too convinced by the current crop (Steffen, Turner and Horvath) because none of them are playing regularly at a high level.

But before then they had Keller, Friedel, Howard, Guzan, Hahnemann, all of them managed to do well at a high level for a long time and there's probably a few more.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Brad Friedel and Kasey Keller might take issue also!

Proper football is the fastest growing sport in america, both at junior school and college level, and the game is getting fantastically popular among girls as well: deny it if you want, but the Americans are possibly the best in the world currently in women’s Football.

I have quite a few American colleagues, many of whom are parents, and I know from out of work discussions with several that they would prefer their kids playing „Soccer“ instead of American Football, such is the risk of injury - both muscular, and worse, potential life-altering brain injury, from „America‘s Game“.

Don’t get me wrong, I still love watching a bit of gridiron, but the players are getting bigger and faster, and debilitating injuries seem to be more common.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
I did put in a significant 1 word last sentence in my post: Yet.
And I agree, there have been a few decent players who have made the grade, and the names you both mention were all decent goalies in their time.
And maybe the parents of kids want their kids to try for soccer, and the kids are up for it as a growing sport, but I still think that for a country of its size, the USA has not yet attained the sort of technical and tactical levels that have been achieved in the UK/Europe/South America.
I repeat: yet!
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
I did put in a significant 1 word last sentence in my post: Yet.
And I agree, there have been a few decent players who have made the grade, and the names you both mention were all decent goalies in their time.
And maybe the parents of kids want their kids to try for soccer, and the kids are up for it as a growing sport, but I still think that for a country of its size, the USA has not yet attained the sort of technical and tactical levels that have been achieved in the UK/Europe/South America.
I repeat: yet!
In fairness they probably play other sports ahead of it. American football, Baseball, Basketball etc... and then they always seem to come up with some tennis players (though recently nothing on the level as when the Williams were at their peak and also Agassi and Sampras on the mens side, but Taylor Fritz is 5 in the world, they also have Isner and some promising younger players like Shelton).

I guess with a lot of things it's what is played in schools and what they like to play with their friends which gets them in. Though our school played rugby most of us preferred a kick around with a proper shaped ball at lunchtimes and stuff...
 
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