Alex Scott

[DizzyBala]

We don't have the disposable wealth to sign "one for the future" that costs £20m-£25m.
Brizzle don't sell cheap and they're about as mid-table as mid-table gets in the Championship so there's no emphasis to sell either way.

While we want to sign the players in the next quality bracket up that start to cost what we initially bought Morgan for, you can't be wasting £20m.

 

[cms186]

Forest should make a big bid for Alex Turner from Arctic Monkeys?

I’ve read he’s a sensational front-man?

I just saw him rip up Carrow Road a few hours ago tbf

 

[Jah]

I just saw him rip up Carrow Road a few hours ago tbf

Saw them at the Ricoh last week, I actually thought The Hives were better

 

[Danga]

Last season we were adamant Brennan was a £25m player. Scott has a similar profile, not sure why we are shocked they would be looking for similar money.

 

[Gyros Peter]

Last season we were adamant Brennan was a £25m player. Scott has a similar profile, not sure why we are shocked they would be looking for similar money.

Because one goal and five assists. (Appreciate he plays in a different position but goals = cash imho)

 

[Ashley]

He may well be worth £25m to Bristol City, but we can't afford to spend that much on a player purely based on potential at this moment in time. If we are spending that kind of money on a player, it needs to be with the starting XI in mind.

 

[Gyros Peter]

He may well be worth £25m to Bristol City, but we can't afford to spend that much on a player purely based on potential at this moment in time. If we are spending that kind of money on a player, it needs to be with the starting XI in mind.

Agree, though this could be the kind of signing where Surrridge or O'Brien are useful. 25m ain't coming out of our bank account for him.

 

[Ashley]

Agree, though this could be the kind of signing where Surrridge or O'Brien are useful. 25m ain't coming out of our bank account for him.

Yes. A deal where we can get the price down to about £10-12m by including LOB for example (rather than dropping £20-25m outright) is a very different conversation.

 

[The Frog]

Agree, though this could be the kind of signing where Surrridge or O'Brien are useful. 25m ain't coming out of our bank account for him.

Agree, we need to be clever how we go about utilising these types of players

 

[Gyros Peter]

Toffolo too potentially. He'll rip up the champ if ends up back there.

 

[Morpeth]

That’s no different to signing the lad for £25m and selling LOB for £10m to Blackburn.

 

[Ashley]

That’s no different to signing the lad for £25m and selling LOB for £10m to Blackburn.

Perhaps. Though you have to find a buyer willing or able to pay £10m for LOB; not many willing buyers in the Premier League, and few capable of paying it in the Championship.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

O'Brien might be a makeweight in a deal but I can't see someone coming in for him for £10m.

 

[Gyros Peter]

O'Brien might be a makeweight in a deal but I can't see someone coming in for him for £10m.

Pretty sure they already have.

 

[Ashley]

O'Brien might be a makeweight in a deal but I can't see someone coming in for him for £10m.

Same here. I actually think he has more value as a makeweight in a deal for a player that we want than what we'd get selling him. The type of clubs that would most likely be interest in LOB just aren't going to be able to meet our asking price.

 

[Ashley]

Pretty sure they already have.

Blackburn did with their loan to buy deal, but I think it hinged on them getting promoted.

 

[Gyros Peter]

Blackburn did with their loan to buy deal, but I think it hinged on them getting promoted.

Whether they had 10m would have been the hinge in that one - without promotion there's no chance.

I agree that it's going to be tough to get that kind of cash without a deal like that one or as a makeweight in a trade.

 

[Master Yates]

I would love to be in a position to hoover up players like Alex Scott, Ronnie Edwards from Posh or Dan Neil from Sunderland and let them develop into PL players on loan or off the bench over the next year or two, but young English players come with eye watering price tags compared to other nations.

It would need someone within the club to be absolutely certain that Scott will be worth 40m plus in three or four years for us to put a bid in that would be accepted.

That would have to be Steve Cooper I think, because what chance Wilson or any recruitment people being here in even one year’s time to be proven right?


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[Gyros Peter]

I would love to be in a position to hoover up players like Alex Scott, Ronnie Edwards from Posh or Dan Neil from Sunderland and let them develop into PL players on loan or off the bench over the next year or two, but young English players come with eye watering price tags compared to other nations.

It would need someone within the club to be absolutely certain that Scott will be worth 40m plus in three or four years for us to put a bid in that would be accepted.

That would have to be Steve Cooper I think, because what chance Wilson or any recruitment people being here in even one year’s time to be proven right?


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It's a similar situation to MGW, although without the managers inside out knowledge of the player.

Fwiw I think we are a couple of years off this type of deal, though hope I'm wrong...

(You could perhaps argue the Danilo thing is similar, though we're talking up and coming British talent at premium prices).

 

[Omar Devone Little]

I would love to be in a position to hoover up players like Alex Scott, Ronnie Edwards from Posh or Dan Neil from Sunderland and let them develop into PL players on loan or off the bench over the next year or two, but young English players come with eye watering price tags compared to other nations.

It would need someone within the club to be absolutely certain that Scott will be worth 40m plus in three or four years for us to put a bid in that would be accepted.

That would have to be Steve Cooper I think, because what chance Wilson or any recruitment people being here in even one year’s time to be proven right?

I think these sort of deals are more suited to the established PL sides, whose squads are already pretty set and can perhaps afford to gamble £10m or so on a young Championship player.

I agree though that I hope in a few years we'll look into the young talent in the lower leagues if the deal is right. Then they can come in and gradually settle amongst an experienced top flight squad, rather than coming in now and thinking it's all on them immediately.

 

[Master Yates]

It's a similar situation to MGW, although without the managers inside out knowledge of the player.

Fwiw I think we are a couple of years off this type of deal, though hope I'm wrong...

(You could perhaps argue the Danilo thing is similar, though we're talking up and coming British talent at premium prices).

The Danilo move kind of illustrates the price difference though doesn’t it?

A regular starter for the best team in South America, had been called up to the full Brazil national team. Cost us 18m and took about 2 months to become a key part of the team.

I don’t think it would take as much as that to get Scott, but it wouldn’t be far off, and it’s unlikely that he would be a regular starter next season.

I don’t thnk there is any chance we would have signed MGW for 25m rising to 42m last summer unless Coops had essentially vouched for his elite potential. The board would be thinking that is madness compared to what someone like Aouar would have cost.


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[Gyros Peter]

The Danilo move kind of illustrates the price difference though doesn’t it?

A regular starter for the best team in South America, had been called up to the full Brazil national team. Cost us 18m and took about 2 months to become a key part of the team.

I don’t think it would take as much as that to get Scott, but it wouldn’t be far off, and it’s unlikely that he would be a regular starter next season.

I don’t thnk there is any chance we would have signed MGW for 25m rising to 42m last summer unless Coops had essentially vouched for his elite potential. The board would be thinking that is madness compared to what someone like Aouar would have cost.


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Agree on all points (though think Scott will fetch 20m plus). As long as we are mixing it up transfer wise and thinking about the future in one way or another I'm happy - the Maia link is a nice one in that regard.

 

[Statto]

The Danilo move kind of illustrates the price difference though doesn’t it?

A regular starter for the best team in South America, had been called up to the full Brazil national team. Cost us 18m and took about 2 months to become a key part of the team.

I don’t think it would take as much as that to get Scott, but it wouldn’t be far off, and it’s unlikely that he would be a regular starter next season.

I don’t thnk there is any chance we would have signed MGW for 25m rising to 42m last summer unless Coops had essentially vouched for his elite potential. The board would be thinking that is madness compared to what someone like Aouar would have cost.


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Pretty much totally spot on there.

I think Danilo could pretty much have actually gone straight into our team. But he had come from a full season in Brazil and needed time to settle.

A lot of the deal for Morgan is in add ons and you'd expect a lot of the deal for Alex would be if we got him.

Cooper probably won't know him as well as English players in the age group sides, but he would know what potential to look for.

If we can do this one for under 10m up front, then why not.

 

[Gyros Peter]

If we can do this one for under 10m up front, then why not.

Pretty sure we can't.

 

[Master Yates]

Pretty much totally spot on there.

I think Danilo could pretty much have actually gone straight into our team. But he had come from a full season in Brazil and needed time to settle.

A lot of the deal for Morgan is in add ons and you'd expect a lot of the deal for Alex would be if we got him.

Cooper probably won't know him as well as English players in the age group sides, but he would know what potential to look for.

If we can do this one for under 10m up front, then why not.

I don’t think it will be that cheap. Bristol City have got good form for selling well. I think they got 22m for Adam Webster when he’d never played PL football, so I think they would expect a club record fee for Scott.

As others have said, it’s probably a more established club like Palace who would have a dip for something like 15m rising to 25m.


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