Adama Diakhaby

[Captain Sinister]

Over the season, 32 appearances, 1210min played (equivalent of over 13 full games).............0 goals scored, 2 assists at Udders (half as many as Worrall)

That's a poor record for an attacking player.

He may have something, Sab might turn him into a gem given time, but it's a myth he's not had the opportunity mate. He's almost had as much game time as Ryan Yates of the season, and Yates has bagged 3 from a more defensive role.

We'll see what occurs. I'll be very surprised if this is anything but Sab trying to lift the lads for the playoffs.

I am surprised to see he has had 1210 minutes playing time - surely not for forest.?
If, as I suspect, that includes playing time at Huddersfield then I refer the Right Honourable Gentleman to my earlier post when I suggested that his time at Huddersfield really did him absolutely no favours whatsover.
If it is all at Forest - I am really, really surprised he has had that much time on the pitch for us.

 

[Danga]

Should we really be investing time in a reclamation projection like Diakhaby with him not being our player? No not really.

Has he done much wrong? Not really. Has he done much right? Not really.

But I really don't think he is one of the worst players to ever pull on a Forest shirt. The lad broke through at Rennes (good club), got signed by Monaco (good club), has played for the French under 21's (elite footballing nation). He definitely has something about him, especially if you go back and watch some of his time at Rennes. Like Sabri says, his confidence looks absolutely shot.

If he was a free transfer in the summer, I'd happily take a punt on him. But anything more than that and I'd walk in the opposite direction.

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[MASE]

Should we really be investing time in a reclamation projection like Diakhaby with him not being our player? No not really.

Has he done much wrong? Not really. Has he done much right? Not really.

But I really don't think he is one of the worst players to ever pull on a Forest shirt. The lad broke through at Rennes (good club), got signed by Monaco (good club), has played for the French under 21's (elite footballing nation). He definitely has something about him, especially if you go back and watch some of his time at Rennes. Like Sabri says, his confidence looks absolutely shot.

If he was a free transfer in the summer, I'd happily take a punt on him. But anything more than that and I'd walk in the opposite direction.

Think you answered your initial question in subsequent paragraph, folk talk about this player as if that pedigree means nowt & he's a shit player.

Two questions Id ask before condemining the selection of Diakhaby as a genuine, at worst, impact possibility:

Who is he keeping out that has the potential to do better in our current system?

Do we expect the manager to chose a player who has it but isn't producing or just someone who doesnt have it? (Lansburys latter year Forest career was built on being picked in the hope his old form comes back).

 

[Matt]

He must be doing it in training for Sabri to trust him. Sabri has shown that he doesn't trust players that he doesn't think fit the system or make the cut - Walker hasn't had nearly the time we expected him to have, Carvalho has been binned, Bostock hasn't made the impact we thought he could.

 

[Danga]

Who is he keeping out that has the potential to do better in our current system?

I think most people will point to Mighten and possibly Walker. But then again I don't think they share a similar skill set. The thing with Diakhaby is, I don't think there are many players in the league with his pace, and in the last 20min of a game against tired legs that can be a dangerous thing.

Do we expect the manager to chose a player who has it but isn't producing or just someone who doesnt have it? (Lansburys latter year Forest career was built on being picked in the hope his old form comes back).

I think the problem people have is that they don't see 'it'. So if you don't believe he has 'it', why give him the play time.

 

[BryanRoy]

I think most people will point to Mighten and possibly Walker. But then again I don't think they share a similar skill set. The thing with Diakhaby is, I don't think there are many players in the league with his pace, and in the last 20min of a game against tired legs that can be a dangerous thing.



I think the problem people have is that they don't see 'it'. So if you don't believe he has 'it', why give him the play time.

Spot on. I don't agree with it and I think Diakhaby is as much a footballer as a non-league player but Sabri clearly wants speed to try and take defenders out the game when it is stretched.

5 more games and he is gone really.

 

[Green Jumper]

Should we really be investing time in a reclamation projection like Diakhaby with him not being our player? No not really.

Has he done much wrong? Not really. Has he done much right? Not really.

Reclamation project is a good description of him based on what we've seen.

I'm sure I read somewhere we have an option to buy, albeit at a batshit crazy price.

Fair enough if SL really wants him but should we sign him? Not really.

 

[Danga]

I think the crazy buyout figure was a win win situation for Huddersfield, they get him out the door (which they wanted) but if he finds his form and groove at Forest, they stand to get their money back.

 

[MASE]

Latter part of the Swans game he picked up two or three lose balls very few other players would have got to. Thats a contribution in the loosest term, but its what the managers looking for.

There's no other blistering pace/unpredictable angle as an impact.

 

[Canadian_red]

If he's brought on to chase balls and keep the opposition hemmed in then he'll probably be better at that than most.

I can only comment on what I've seen and that's that his legs seem to operate at twice normal speed but his brain half. Still he's hardly had a run (rightly so I think) and the manager keeps putting him out there when there is no pressure to do so. Clearly he's doing something right in the gaffer's eyes.

Onwards.

 

[BryanRoy]

Even when he tries to turn, the defender blocks the ball before he gets on his bike. Then when he tries to beat you 1v1 he kicks it into the defenders shins hoping the ricochet goes in his favour. Then there is the worst first touch on a number of occasions.

I don't think we can even defend his quality or consistency. What we hope for is that speed to work on 1 occasion even in these last few games and it turns the game in our favour.

Sabri wants this type of player but with quality. Hopefully he can get that in the transfer window.

 

[MASE]

Lets not forget he's making runs that drag defenders, he's been unconditionally proactive whenever he's come on & like I said, he's picked up some bits & pieces.

Difficult to swallow some of the angles of criticism, lets not forget we've had a young midfielder who's been weak on the ball all season, but backed by many for his work off it. Lamouchi backs him & he's praised but slated for backing Diakhaby.

Ultimately they both bring something the manager wants. Something theyre kids he's keeping out don't.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I am surprised to see he has had 1210 minutes playing time - surely not for forest.?
If, as I suspect, that includes playing time at Huddersfield then I refer the Right Honourable Gentleman to my earlier post when I suggested that his time at Huddersfield really did him absolutely no favours whatsover.
If it is all at Forest - I am really, really surprised he has had that much time on the pitch for us.

No mate you're right, it's "over the season", so including time for Udders too.

But I don't know why anyone would discount that. It's still game time, and in the same league too.

An attacking player with 0 goals after over 13 full games under his belt isn't one I'd be overly-excited about signing. Especially at 24 when he should be exiting his development stage, and entering his peak.

But who knows, give Lamouchi a pre-season with him and he might totally spin the kid round, like a record baby.

 

[Danga]

Lets not forget he's making runs that drag defenders, he's been unconditionally proactive whenever he's come on & like I said, he's picked up some bits & pieces.

Difficult to swallow some of the angles of criticism, lets not forget we've had a young midfielder who's been weak on the ball all season, but backed by many for his work off it. Lamouchi backs him & he's praised but slated for backing Diakhaby.

Ultimately they both bring something the manager wants. Something theyre kids he's keeping out don't.

People don't appreciate that though mate.

I think the best way to compare him and what he brings is by relating it to the NFL. If teams know you can't throw the ball, or they don't respect your wide receivers, they are just going to stack the box against the run and play man on the back end. And vice versa if the D knows you can't run the ball, you just drop 5 DB's on the field.

Teams can play a high line against Forest and compress that middle third because none of Ameobi, Grabben or Lolley have blistering pace, so the threat in behind is minimal (especially against the better teams, this was very evident in our last game against Fulham). With Diakhaby, even if you think he is terrible, as a defender you have to respect his pace, because if you don't it is one long ball, or one misplaced pass and he is through and your not catching him (unlike Grabben, see the Fulham game when I think it was Ream who f**ked up).

 

[BryanRoy]

If he could keep the ball longer than 3/4 seconds then I would consider dragging people out of space and creating for others but his execution/decision making is so poor it only ends in him coughing him up possession and leading to opposition turn overs and counters with our defensive structure possibly not in place.

He needs to get more of the simple things right. He must have once had it but those move from Rennes to Monaco to Huddersfield clearly did him no favours.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Context matters though. His price tag to me is irrelevant, he was meant to impact our team and make a contribution. He was a January signing, if we didn’t care about that then we might as well played Mighten.

 

[MASE]

Context matters though. His price tag to me is irrelevant, he was meant to impact our team and make a contribution. He was a January signing, if we didn’t care about that then we might as well played Mighten.

Still time for him to make the contribution of all contributions.

 

[Danga]

Context matters though. His price tag to me is irrelevant, he was meant to impact our team and make a contribution. He was a January signing, if we didn’t care about that then we might as well played Mighten.

Of course mate, and that is why I think he gets the kicking he does on here and on Twitter. If he would have been signed on a free last summer from France on a 1 year deal (much like Sammy), I think people would have been more prepared to give him the time.

I'm not prepared to die on a hill for him, because overall his contribution has been next to nothing since joining the club, but I think he has a bit of something about him.

 

[Ashley]

Still time for him to make the contribution of all contributions.

It'd be hilarious (but also great) if his only contribution in a Forest shirt is to hit the winning goal in the play off final.

He's just been a bit of a nothing player really. Doesn't do much good or bad. Hopefully that changes soon as we approach the end of the season.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Sabri's bigging him up because we might, just might, need to have him play some minutes in the play-offs. If it squeezes an extra 5% out of him it could be the difference. Same with the Mighten arm round the shoulder before he comes on - it's all subtle stuff to try and get the most out of everyone.

Will we buy him? Absolutely not.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Sabri's bigging him up because we might, just might, need to have him play some minutes in the play-offs. If it squeezes an extra 5% out of him it could be the difference. Same with the Mighten arm round the shoulder before he comes on - it's all subtle stuff to try and get the most out of everyone.

Will we buy him? Absolutely not.

Totally agree mate and it is shrewd management, you dont dig your team out and expect them to play for you.

 

[MASE]

Sabri's bigging him up because we might, just might, need to have him play some minutes in the play-offs. If it squeezes an extra 5% out of him it could be the difference. Same with the Mighten arm round the shoulder before he comes on - it's all subtle stuff to try and get the most out of everyone.

Will we buy him? Absolutely not.

Its also his player & the huge criticism he's attracting won't be lost.

 

[BryanRoy]

Sabri's bigging him up because we might, just might, need to have him play some minutes in the play-offs. If it squeezes an extra 5% out of him it could be the difference. Same with the Mighten arm round the shoulder before he comes on - it's all subtle stuff to try and get the most out of everyone.

Will we buy him? Absolutely not.

100% Maxi

I also think with our new recruitment team it isn't running smoothly yet. We identified a type of player that our French connection knew about and we can now say thanks but no thanks and have had the extra time to hopefully get the right player in. We could easily have bought a winger who was the wrong one for us medium to long term too and sit as part of the next bomb squad.

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

100% Maxi

I also think with our new recruitment team it isn't running smoothly yet. We identified a type of player that our French connection knew about and we can now say thanks but no thanks and have had the extra time to hopefully get the right player in. We could easily have bought a winger who was the wrong one for us medium to long term too and sit as part of the next bomb squad.

Loans do not only depend on the recruitment team; it is also Vrentzos' favourite MO for supplementary players or interesting gambles. Some of our best and all of our worst players in recent years have been loans initially.

 

[Cortez the Killer]

It'd be hilarious (but also great) if his only contribution in a Forest shirt is to hit the winning goal in the play off final.

I'm no fan of Diakhaby but if that happened I buy a shirt with his name on it and wear it to games dressed in a pink tutu next season.

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