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Steve Chettle
I like MGW. He has talent, just needs to restrain it at times, he has energy and enthusiasm and he's a good team man.
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Morgan Anthony Gibbs-White
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Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Wolves fans adopting the "Fox and the Grapes" argument over Morgan Gibbs-White.
HBB
Jack Burkitt
My issue with MGW is I still don't know who he is as a player and what his defined role is - is he number 9 a striker, what? He has bags of talent and a great touch and worked well when he had fast support with Johnson but currently he appears to be a player that when he gets the ball he and the players around him are wondering what to do next.
Morpeth
John Robertson
He tries hard and has a nice touch but I agree with all you’ve said. It’s a good job he got fouled when he did that funny turn thing because he left himself wide open again and the ball would have been taken off him. Gives the ball away far too much and I’d be looking to replace him in the summer which is easier said than done of course! Overall I just see an ineffective player wherever he plays on the pitch because his speed of thought doesn’t match up with his physical attributes and those of opposition players.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
What's that then?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It's an Aesop story about a fox that tries to eat grapes. Rather than admitting defeat and that he can't reach them he says they were disgusting and didn't want then.
It's a very good metaphor for Wolves attitude towards him from Captain actually
trentside69
Viv Anderson
I think this is the only criticism of mgw I can make.
Sometimes he needs to restrain himself because he tries a bit too hard and you see it with mis placed passes that he can do with his eyes closed.
I have no doubt he is going to the top in the game he's only young and still learning about the top league.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
MGW is NOT the finished article, and is an easy target for criticism because he gets stuck in, tries the unexpected and sometimes gets caught out.
He is a natural central attacking midfielder who is not afraid to get back to defend, and is prepared to try and turn defending quickly into attack.
He is looking a bit below par because he has lost BJ, and also Taiwo.
Give him leeway.
He is going to continue to imrove with us, and will be a Forest Legend.
Unless SC is sacked and takes MGW to Crystal palace.
He is a natural central attacking midfielder who is not afraid to get back to defend, and is prepared to try and turn defending quickly into attack.
He is looking a bit below par because he has lost BJ, and also Taiwo.
Give him leeway.
He is going to continue to imrove with us, and will be a Forest Legend.
Unless SC is sacked and takes MGW to Crystal palace.
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
The issues between Gibbs-White and Nuno at Wolves - and how it must change at Nottingham Forest
Nuno Espirito Santo gave Morgan Gibbs-White his Wolves debut, but their relationship was not strong - now they are reunited at Forest
theathletic.com
Nothing new, Nuno and MGW didn't gel at Wolves as MGW is a pure #10 and there was no #10 in Nuno's 433 (sound familiar?), MGW made some silly life errors that yoing footballers do - nothing serious, e.g. going to a party during lockdown.
Now Nuno sees MGW has grown as a man, but needs to find a way of getting him into thr #10 role which we haven't done so far this season.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Starting him as a false 9 might help tomorrow, unless we go with Gary f***ing Neville's idea of starting Origi and Wood in the same 11... A wonderful insight into his managerial credentials that.The issues between Gibbs-White and Nuno at Wolves - and how it must change at Nottingham Forest
Nuno Espirito Santo gave Morgan Gibbs-White his Wolves debut, but their relationship was not strong - now they are reunited at Forest
Nothing new, Nuno and MGW didn't gel at Wolves as MGW is a pure #10 and there was no #10 in Nuno's 433 (sound familiar?), MGW made some silly life errors that yoing footballers do - nothing serious, e.g. going to a party during lockdown.
Now Nuno sees MGW has grown as a man, but needs to find a way of getting him into thr #10 role which we haven't done so far this season.
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
Apparently MGW had a good spell as a left forward at Wolves too, so I'm still championing putting him in the left and Elanga on the right if we persist with 433.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
I don't think 433 is likely, Cooper abandoned it and Nuno favours a back 3. MGW's best hope of playing in his best position is probably a 3-5-2 of some description.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Perhaps a 3-4-3 is more likely - he went for that at Wolves.
That said (based on reading alone) Santo seems quite flexible tactically, I'd guess at fitting his formation around squad strength?
Along with the 3-4-3 I've read he's used 4-1-4-1, 4-5-1, 5-3-2, 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1. Just need the standard 4-4-2 to complete the set then!
Monkman
Grenville Morris
Yeah that seems to be his default, but as mentioned in the Athletic article that doesn't have an obvious slot for MGW. 3-5-2 would though.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Think Gibbs White behind a forward 2 might be a little too gung ho for now (unless they are Elanga and capable of tracking back) but perhaps once we establish a more solid foundation?
Monkman
Grenville Morris
It doesn't strike me as any more gung ho than a forward 3 in a 3-4-3?
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Oh agreed, I just don't think we are in a place to implement that kind of system now - suspect we will look to tighten up defensively first, given goals shipped recently and who we've appointed.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
Had one of his better games today, didn't give the ball away as much. What about that piece of skill when he turned prime Rivellino in the 2nd half.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
Looks like Nuno might play him a bit deeper as a number 8. Will be interesting to see. Does mean we have an even bigger midfielder surplus though!
Long Rodney
Youth Team
I seem to remember (purely from FM) MGW being a holding (or at least deeper) midfielder at the start of his career
Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Aye, he had a cracking game yesterday, hopefully he'll start finding the net soon.
FLC
First Team Squad
If CHO can stay fit I can see a good relationship building between the two of them. Both talented and comfortable with the ball in tight positions.
In the first half after a Bournemouth CM sprayed a 40 yard ball out to their LW for the 3rd time in the game, I thought whilst I like our midfielders, we don't have a CM that can do that.
Now if MGW were to play there, then we do have somebody that can stretch the play from deep. Furthermore, not many teams play with a no.10 anymore and it means we don't have to shoe horn one of our best players in to the detriment of balance.
It will probably benefit Wood too as he likes to come deep and occupy the same space that the no.10 plays and facilities two wingers with our player of the season Elanga in his best position.
It leaves more problems with the midfield though.
www.performanceanalysisuk.co.uk
Now if MGW were to play there, then we do have somebody that can stretch the play from deep. Furthermore, not many teams play with a no.10 anymore and it means we don't have to shoe horn one of our best players in to the detriment of balance.
It will probably benefit Wood too as he likes to come deep and occupy the same space that the no.10 plays and facilities two wingers with our player of the season Elanga in his best position.
It leaves more problems with the midfield though.
What happened to the ‘Number 10’ role in the modern game?
For many decades the number 10 was the most critical position in football. The playmaker or ‘trequartista’ as the Italians called him. It was these guys who conducted their team’s attacking play. They were invariably creative and technically gifted. But for a variety of reasons they are few and...
www.performanceanalysisuk.co.uk
Monkman
Grenville Morris
Sangare can do that, in fairness. Not seen much of it yet.In the first half after a Bournemouth CM sprayed a 40 yard ball out to their LW for the 3rd time in the game, I thought whilst I like our midfielders, we don't have a CM that can do that.
Now if MGW were to play there, then we do have somebody that can stretch the play from deep. Furthermore, not many teams play with a no.10 anymore and it means we don't have to shoe horn him in.
What happened to the ‘Number 10’ role in the modern game?
For many decades the number 10 was the most critical position in football. The playmaker or ‘trequartista’ as the Italians called him. It was these guys who conducted their team’s attacking play. They were invariably creative and technically gifted. But for a variety of reasons they are few and...