Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
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Morgan Anthony Gibbs-White
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incapable hulk
Best served cold
I feel like MGW really misses Brennan. He's still playing those crossfield passes to where Johnson would be only now there's nobody there.
He’s one of the few players that give me any hope on a match day. I don’t think taking that hope away is the answer.
We look unconvincing in goal
We look like we lack a leader at the back
We look too relaxed and need too much time in midfield
We don’t have an attack
Fix those things
We look unconvincing in goal
We look like we lack a leader at the back
We look too relaxed and need too much time in midfield
We don’t have an attack
Fix those things
Coop’s learning curve.
First Team Squad
Awd Flicker, he doe’s like a backheel.
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
Time this lad pulled his sox up.
Effort 10 Content 3.
Effort 10 Content 3.
GreeksBearingGifts
Stuart Pearce
Gibs-White is, in my view, the main formation problem Cooper has to deal with (and he hasn't). He is the most creative player of this team. Creative players rarely excel for large patches of the game; it is crucial moments they usually offer. But he clearly struggles on the flanks, and a formation which allowed him to play more centrally would suit him much better, and would create the unexpected moments which panic the defenders of the opponent. However, Cooper also needs three proper midfielders in midfield, in order to control space and the opposition's passing game; if he sacrifices one of the three for MGW to play more centrally, he will lose that control.
I'm no expert, so I have no solutions to offer, but I think this has been a key issue this season.
I'm no expert, so I have no solutions to offer, but I think this has been a key issue this season.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
He's definitely better in the hole but the moment you do that you're forced to abandon the Mangala-Sangare-Dominguez triangle which looked quite strong, unless you move to a 442 narrow diamond (with Elanga/CHO up top with Wood/Origi) but arguably that's going to negate the qualities of that central midfield.
Don't get me wrong I think 4-2-3-1 is an option but it's not a silver bullet, there's drawbacks to getting the best out of MGW at the other end of the pitch.
The other option, and bear with me here good people of LTLF, is to continue with the 4-3-3 and MGW out wide right, but work really hard on getting full backs overlapping so that MGW (and CHO on the other side) can drift into the channels where there'll do more of their best work, but still have genuine options out wide to play into to stretch the field. That might mean someone like Neco Williams winning his place at right back, and it almost certainly means needing an upgrade on Toffolo at left back. Toff's done nothing wrong but if you're more reliant on those full backs then you need a proper dynamic, up and down sort of player, and Toff's steady but not that.
We do have some options around getting more out of MGW, my bigger worry is that he at the individual level just isn't performing very well. Last night he couldn't find a red shirt 15 yards in front of him all game. Overhit pass after overhit pass. That's on him, he needs to find the form he was showing last season at times, and fast.
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
As you're always kind enough to correct my errors Ray, can I return the compliment by informing you that it's SOCKS.
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Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
I've dropped him in my team for Wednesday evening.
That'll mekimpulluphizsox, I can tellyer.
Will pulling his socks up help him beat the 1st defender from free kicks and corners?
I do hope so.
I do hope so.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
It'll be toffolo on free kick and corner duty from now on.
Unless SC puts the Brazilian God, Murillo on to taaking them all...
Pugwash
Viv Anderson
Why don’t we try Danilo at left back and have him drift into centre midfield like Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool do with their fullbacks.
I don’t really understand it, but I know all the cool kids are doing it these days.
I don’t really understand it, but I know all the cool kids are doing it these days.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
I would put him up top in the way he played for England and us at points last season. It was a struggle last season because we couldn't keep the ball, I don't think that's a big problem anymore.
I think the problem for him is he is not getting the ball when in areas to hurt the opposition, so he is trying so hard to get into those positions that he just can't influence games.
How often does he get it directly on the edge of or inside the box? It is hardly ever when he plays wide right. That's where you need MGW.
I think the problem for him is he is not getting the ball when in areas to hurt the opposition, so he is trying so hard to get into those positions that he just can't influence games.
How often does he get it directly on the edge of or inside the box? It is hardly ever when he plays wide right. That's where you need MGW.
Danga
Formerly JLingz
If Mangala and Sangare can't play as the two holding in a 4231 to allow MGW to play centrally but also get CHO and Elanga on the pitch at the same time, someone needs sacking.
It isn't like we have been stout defensively playing three more holding type of midfielders, we have been conceding at a rate of 2 a game over the past 5.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
I'm not sure why Cooper seems reluctant to try this, to be honest (ok, CHO being unavailable is probably a factor) - I wouldn't actually try it with a creative player who doesn't put in a shift, but that's not a criticism I would level at MGW.
I watched Orel Mangala play as part of a midfield „2“, in either a 3-4-3 or 4-2-3-1 formation for the best part of three seasons.
He can play as part of a central midfield pair, no problem there.
He can play as part of a central midfield pair, no problem there.
Danga
Formerly JLingz
100% mate, it isn't like MGW doesn't get back and work hard for the team, I don't think you lose too much defensively by putting him there.
* My sacking comment was more levelled at the recruitment team if they identify a guy who costs £35m and don't think he is good enough to play in a two.
Coop’s learning curve.
First Team Squad
I think when he masters the art of striking a dead ball with some accuracy we’ll have a hell of a player.
TrentEndGaribaldi
Reidy
For me this has got to be the way now. Get MGW in back at 10, whether that be in a back 5 or 4.
Could even understand us playing Neco on the RW if we went for a 4231, just to give us a bit of extra defensive cover that maybe CHO wouldn't give.
PynchonForest
John Robertson
Nothing on his asshole move post match (refusing Coops cajoling him to acknowledge the fans) eh?
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
I'd personally go Dominguez and Sangare, but I concur with the principle.
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
He has been hung out to dry somewhat this season. Not excusing him, there are ways of dealing with things and I don't agree with how it appears he's handling things, but I can understand why he might be fed up this season.
PynchonForest
John Robertson
I don't. He showed his colours. Kouyate too, certainly. But refusing Cooper cajoling him to go acknowledge the fans says much about MGW's character. He's done shit all season, and wasn't brave enough to do as Cooper asked post match. I am done with him and his overhyped pathetic candy ass.
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
He'll be fed up with his own form wont he.
I don't care where you play on the pitch in whatever position, as a highly rated expensive footballer, he should be doing far better with decision making, control, passing, skill, dead balls etc etc.
Workrate just isn't enough in the 1st Division.