Who Are/Were the Worst fans for Hooliganism and Violence

PynchonForest

PynchonForest

John Robertson
I know it's a bit of a touchy subject, but I'm just wondering, across the swath of you, who are and were the worst fans for matchday violence.

I am also interested in how we would sit amongst teams like Chelsea and Millwall and Liverpool and United etc. Forest doesn't seem to be amongst the worst, which is real nice to see.
 
Barbus

Barbus

Steve Chettle
Well going purely on personal experience and eye witnessing. By far the worst back when I used to go to most games in the late 80s and 90s were Man Utd, with notable mentions for Millwall and Bristol City.

No doubt others will have had different experiences to me.
 
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sedgred

Banned
Depends, some were fairly notorious at home games.......Middlesborough, Birmingham, Man City were never a decent visit, but they never travelled in numbers, where as Newcastle always travelled in numbers, but with repect to them were never serious bother on a hooligan scale.

Most teams were up for it on big games, Bristol City have already been highlighted, but in general another side who did not travel well.

Manchester utd, Chelsea, Tottenham, Leeds, Liverpool and of course West Ham were games where trouble was always likely to kick off, but sporadic voilence was always likely to burst out at most games anytime during football's problem peak period.

If I am honest, as a club and numbers involved, Forest always punched well above their weight and were a match for most teams home and away, which was important to be recognised for. As an example one particular day, Derby and Leicester fans joined together to nail Forest, failed miserably.

Any fan may be able to give experiences, some more than others of fans and grounds and where to watch your back.
 
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westyorksnffc

westyorksnffc

Miserable git, and proud.
Stoke
 
Tutts

Tutts

Ian Bowyer
If you read The Guardians 'Joy of Six' column this week, it's about big teams spending time out of the top league.
The piece on Man Utd when they spent a season in the old division 2 in the 70's tells of them basically smashing up the stadiums of smaller clubs like Leyton Orient for a year.
 
Ravi

Ravi

Upper Decker
From personal experience Liverpool, Man U & Leeds were the worst in the 70's & 80's, particularly the in-and-around-the-ground stuff. Liverpool fans seemed to me to be the most racist too. They were certainly still doing the monkey chanting many years after most other fans had moved on.
 
Barbus

Barbus

Steve Chettle
Ah thanks for reminding me about Spurs Sedge, can't remember seeing much trouble from them, but did once spend a VERY cold and very long journey home from there on a coach with no rear window after it got bricked just before we left.

I suppose that was an isolated incident that could have happened anywhere, but as I said before, I'm only going on personal experience.

My own plan on matchday was to try and stay away from trouble but sometimes it found you.
 
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sedgred

Banned
Barbus said:
Ah thanks for reminding me about Spurs Sedge, can't remember seeing much trouble from them, but did once spend a VERY cold and very long journey home from there on a coach with no rear window after it got bricked just before we left.

I suppose that was an isolated incident that could have happened anywhere, but as I said before, I'm only going on personal experience.

My own plan on matchday was to try and stay away from trouble but sometimes it found you.
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Did them 2-3 away in a cup match one night, Hodge scored on his return and Jemson hit a Roy of the Rovers winner, walking back to he buses that night was like reliving the Alamo, Tottenham fans had a bad attitude.
 
rogerthecat

rogerthecat

Jack Burkitt
We had our idiots. My younger brother lobbed a large stone at a Police horse at Wednesday when we relegated them (1990?). I gave him a huge punch to the arm and dragged him away. Coppers saw me and let it go. I never saw any real thuggery on our part though I did know a lad who'd served time for ABH against a Villa fan.

Worst place to go was Merseyside. All the stereotypes like car parking protection rackets, Stanley knives, bags of piss, stones, lads losing their leather jackets all went on. Middlesborough had a bad reputation too. Sunderland weren't shy either.

Best fans other than us I have ever experienced were the Geordies. When I first moved away from Nottingham I got matey with a Man Utd fan (from Chesterfield unsurprisingly) and a NUFC fan from South Shields. We used to travel to away games together watching each other's teams in rotation. They both enjoyed going with Forest but I really liked the away days with the Toon. Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Blackburn, Villa etc (it was very glamourous). Never ever had any aggro, good humoured, not arrogant, loud, liked a drink, good atmosphere, always well received.

The red Scouse could learn an awful lot about how to present themselves from the Geordies
 
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siforest65

Jack Burkitt
I did 2 tips to the Old Den without a hitch and found most Milwall fans okay.

Liverpool and Man United were pretty unfriendly and I recall a particularly unpleasant trip to Bristol City in the 1989 League Cup semi.

City Ground wise, I find Newcastle can be arses and had a tendency to infiltrate the old Trent End. I also remember being coined by Villa fans in the exec stand car park after they had conceded a late winner (Johnny Metgod free kick I think).
 
rogerthecat

rogerthecat

Jack Burkitt
Southampton was a pain to get to but was pleasant enough when you got there.

Worst Police - West Midlands. Cocks.
 
Barbus

Barbus

Steve Chettle
sedgred said:
Did them 2-3 away in a cup match one night, Hodge scored on his return and Jemson hit a Roy of the Rovers winner, walking back to he buses that night was like reliving the Alamo, Tottenham fans had a bad attitude.
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Yeah I was that game. But went to Spurs many times in those years and can't remember which game it was we got bricked. Could have been the same one.

It is worth pointing out that despite its proximity to Liverpool, I remember going in a pub right next door to Tranmere's Prenton Park that I think shared its name with the ground? and even had the club badge-patterned carpet with absolutely no animosity or even slightly dodgy atmosphere at all. As friendly as any away ground I ever visited.

In contrast, places like Blackburn, you could only go in an 'away' pub and was advised not to park in a certain area by the police "because you won't get back OK after the match".
 
Anatoli

Anatoli

Stuart Pearce
Glen.jpgChopper Harris, Bully Bremner and Norman Hunter.
Leeds V Chelsea carnage. Paul Gascoigne 1991 and that moronic Ref on Sunday. He was 26. I was watching Forest, making really stupid decisions and being a twat before he was born.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Stoke, Leeds, Liverscum, Millwall.
 
rogerthecat

rogerthecat

Jack Burkitt
Jimmy Floyd Stranglew@nk said:
Oh yeah, Wolves as well.
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I married a Wolverhampton girl and live locally, I look upon it as Missionary work. A lot of her family are Wolves fans, they can't help it.

Away from the underpass that brings you in behind the Molineux Hotel Wolves fans are soft as shite. All they can do is ambush you there and the Police keep them well under control. I saw them try to ambush a group of Sunderland fans a few years ago. They were completely routed by less than a dozen middle aged Mackems.

No-one has mentioned too many Cock-er-Knees yet. My experience was they were generally all threat but little fight. We sat in a coach park chatting to and drinking with a few West Ham fans while traffic cleared after the '91 semi final. They looked like yobs, so did we, but they were pretty sound.
 
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FBS

FBS

Steve Chettle
Millwall is pretty normal place to go to nowdays for away fans. I remember absolutely shitting myslef for days beforehand going to my first game at the new den. Got there and found it was pretty average, and never seen any trouble since.
 
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