The Premier League 11 point watch 2022-2023 edition

[EmmersonForest4]

Emmo must be over the moon, we surpassed his seasonal target of 12 points before the break.

Aye I am! I always thought we’d get it easy that was just my expectation of what cooper had to achieve this year for me wanting him stay in the job. Now that’s been easily brushed aside we have an outside chance here of staying up!! January is massive we need a quick centre back and a proper striker/inside forward.

I think MGW can be a false 9 like Firminho was for Liverpool but we have to have more prolific inside forwards than Johnson and lingard.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I'm not so sure.

If you look at the issues Direby had that season, the first was surely that they went up too quickly. Davies somehow managed to get that promotion from nothing.

The 2nd mistake was that the board then misjudged the gap between the CH and the PL and didn't actually strengthen anywhere near what they needed given they had a weak squad for the CH, one which had only just managed to stay up the year before.

Now you look at us. Let's just say we did really fluke it up last year. Now we were absolutely on fire for the 2nd half of that season but... we had a lot of ground to make up, and had only just stayed up the year before (hmm), along with key players not being ours. You're seeing the same thing here, but our management decided we needed players, invested heavily into this, so we had a fighting chance. But someone like Luton or Scrudds who don't necessarily have the resources of a Marinakis or the foresight to plan for maybe going down & needing parachute payments to have another go (and hence getting players with resale value) may stick with their squad and struggle more.

I think that if someone like Luton had won the play offs they would probably make it close. The CH is a tricky division because a lot of sides are equally matched. And it's not always obvious who might go up and who might not. Of the beaten PL sides SU are top, Luton 10th, Scruds bottom. The 3 relegated sides are all in the top 6. Reading have been doing reasonably, but are now 12th because they don't have the consistency. Millwall are 6th with 31 and down to 13th place Brum with 28 all of those teams could pass them next match. It's not a weak division, but it is a close division, and a team with less resource than we have which goes up, without parachute payments, might find the next season tricky... and then we have another Derby.

We came up with next to nothing. A team of loans moulded into something which just clicked. Make no mistake our promotion was completely unexpected. We were only able to invest so much because of the new found PL revenue.

 

[Ashley]

We came up with next to nothing. A team of loans moulded into something which just clicked. Make no mistake our promotion was completely unexpected. We were only able to invest so much because of the new found PL revenue.

Yep. Even a team that goes up completely unprepared can cobble together a better team than what Derby had, such is the nature of the money involved nowadays.

Just have a look at their squad from that season and ask yourself if you could picture any Premier League side nowadays having such a poor squad? I certainly can't.

 

[ubik]

I have a shred of sympathy for Derby as I'm sure that season was when I saw Ronaldo con a penalty against them playing for Man U - ran past a defender in the box, hooked his foot round the defender's leg, got a penalty. Against Derby, the worst team in Premiership history, and he still had to cheat.

That was when I decided that however good he was at football I would hate him forever.

 

[T.B.T.]

Remember this?

Still valid.

 

[Bryn Gunn]

Remember this?

Still valid.

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Worth a repost.

Objective number one; accomplished by November. Now let’s get out of the bottom three.

 

[mister]

 

[Morpeth]

It was my first objective this season too, though I didn't think there was a high chance we wouldn't get it.

17th is the next one.

17th was definitely the ONLY objective.

If we came 17th with ten points then I don’t think anyone would have mentioned Derby or Forest ever again in terms of amazingly crap seasons.