The „Americas, Asia and Other World Football“ Thread!

[Rzar]

Aren't the players, particularly of Messi's calibre, being paid sums like £200 million to go to Saudi?

Hardly likely to earn that at Inter Miami. So perhaps he wants to go to the States for a year or so on holiday (lots of Cubans and Spanish speakers in Miami) and then pop over to Saudi to collect his pension.

On top of his salary, he's getting profit sharing from the MLS, Apple (they host the TV rights) & Adidas. He will be making huge amounts especially if it's a successful spell, and he will probably get his own MLS Franchise when he retires which is what Beckham did, and they are worth about £300m.

 

[Strummer]

Aren't the players, particularly of Messi's calibre, being paid sums like £200 million to go to Saudi?

Hardly likely to earn that at Inter Miami. So perhaps he wants to go to the States for a year or so on holiday (lots of Cubans and Spanish speakers in Miami) and then pop over to Saudi to collect his pension.

The suggestion is, VP, that if Messi turns up in the MLS and strolls about for a couple of seasons, he will then be eligible - as David Beckham was - to purchase a new MLS franchise at a significant discount; that is an almost-quadruple-your-money offer, before a ball is even kicked, and could end up being worth serious cash - in excess of $600m is, I believe, the current mooted figure in terms of the value of a franchise.

That sort of long-term investment opportunity could frankly dwarf even the massive short-term gain of wages in the Saudi league.

 

[Strummer]

On top of his salary, he's getting profit sharing from the MLS, Apple (they host the TV rights) & Adidas. He will be making huge amounts especially if it's a successful spell, and he will probably get his own MLS Franchise when he retires which is what Beckham did, and they are worth about £300m.

SNAP!

But, the value of an MLS franchise is nowadays quite a bit more than $300m, especially with the investment from Apple, with the new streaming contract.

 

[valspoodle]

That puts a different complexion on it.

Now where would I like to own an MLS franchise?

 

[BuckeyeRed]

River Plate are champions of Argentina for a record 38th time. 'Los Millonarios' clinched the Liga Profesional with 2 matches remaining after beating Estudiantes 3-1. There were doubts about first year manager Martin Demichelis since this was his first managerial appointment in senior football and he was taking over for legend Marcelo Gallardo but he won the title at the first time of asking.

 

[Strummer]

The fact I remember watching Martin Demichelis play, makes me feel old.

 

[BuckeyeRed]

The fact I remember watching Martin Demichelis play, makes me feel old.

I know how you feel.

 

[BuckeyeRed]

The South American tournaments have had the draws for the knockout phases and are set for the round of 16. Ties to be played 1-3 Aug and 8-10 Aug. Seeds in parentheses.
Copa Sudamericana:
(15) Emelec - Defensa y Justicia (4)
(11) Botafogo - Guarani (8)
(16) San Lorenzo - Sao Paulo (1)
(23) Nublense - LDU Quito (6)
(9) Estudiantes - Goias (7)
(19) Corinthians - Newell's Old Boys (2)
(12) America Mineiro - RB Bragantino (5)
(20) Libertad - Fortaleza (3)

Copa Libertadores:
(15) Atletico Nacional Medellin - Racing (3)
(11) Nacional - Boca Juniors (4)
(13) Atletico Mineiro - Palmeiras (1)
(16) Deportivo Pereira - Independiente del Valle (6)
(9) Bolivar - Athletico Paranaense (5)
(14) River Plate - Internacional Porto Alegre (7)
(10) Flamengo - Olimpia (2)
(12) Argentinos Juniors - Fluminense (8)

 

[BuckeyeRed]

Leagues Cup (competition between Liga MX and MLS) have completed the round of 16.
LAFC 4-0 Real Salt Lake
Tigres 0-1 Monterrey
Minnesota United 2-2 Toluca (4-2 penalties)
America 2-2 Nashville SC (5-6 penalties)
Philadelphia Union 1-1 NY Red Bull (4-3 penalties)
Queretaro 1-1 New England Revolution (4-3 penalties)
Dallas 4-4 Inter Miami (3-5 penalties)
Charlotte 2-1 Houston Dynamo

America - Nashville highlights including Sam Surridge

Dallas- Miami highlights

Quarterfinals: 11 August
LAFC - Monterrey
Minnesota - Nashville
Philadelphia - Queretaro
Inter Miami - Charlotte

 

[BuckeyeRed]

The South American competitions have completed the rounds of 16:
Copa Sudamericana:
Defensa y Justicia 1-0 Emelec (3-1 aggregate)
Guarani 0-0 Botafogo (1-2 aggregate)
Sao Paulo 2-0 San Lorenzo (2-1 aggregate)
LDU Quito 2-3 Nublense (3-3 aggregate, Quito go through 4-3 on penalties)
Goias 0-2 Estudiantes (0-5 aggregate)
Newell's Old Boys 0-0 Corinthians (1-2 aggregate)
RB Bragantino 3-3 America Mineiro (4-4 aggregate, America MG go through 4-3 on penalties)
Fortaleza 1-1 Libertad (2-1 aggregate)

Quarterfinals: 22-24 Aug and 29-31 Aug
(11) Botafogo - Defensa y Justicia (4)
(6) LDU Quito - Sao Paulo (1)
(19) Corinthians - Estudiantes (9)
(12) America MG - Fortaleza (3)

Copa Libertadores:
Racing 3-0 Atletico Nacional (5-4 aggregate)
Boca Juniors 2-2 Nacional Montevideo (2-2 aggregate, Boca go through 4-2 on penalties)
Palmeiras 0-0 Atletico Mineiro (1-0 aggregate)
Independiente del Valle 1-1 Dep. Pereira (1-2 aggregate)
Paranaense 2-0 Bolivar La Paz (3-3 aggregate, Bolivar through 5-4 on penalties)
Internacional 2-1 River Plate (3-3 aggregate, Inter through 9-8 on penalties)
Olimpia 3-1 Flamengo (3-2 aggregate; Olimpia spoils a Flu-Fla derby in quarters)

Fluminense 2-0 Argentinos Juniors (3-1 aggregate)

Quarterfinals: 22-24 Aug and 29-31 Aug (seeds in parentheses)
(4) Boca Juniors - Racing (3)
(16) Deportivo Pereira - Palmeiras (1)
(9) Bolivar - Internacional Porto Alegre (7)
(8) Fluminense - Olimpia Asuncion (2)

 

[BuckeyeRed]

Leagues Cup Quarters:
LAFC 2-3 Monterrey
Minnesota United 0-5 Nashville SC
Philadelphia Union 2-1 Queretaro
Inter Miami 4-0 Charlotte

Resumen | ¡Remontada! Rayados elimina al LAFC y ya está en Semifinales

Rayados remonta un 2-0 para doblegar 2-3 al LAFC con polémica por el VAR. Su rival será el Nashville.

www.tudn.com

Resumen | ¡Aplanadora! Nashville aplasta a Minnesota y va a Semis

Con un 'baile' en el segundo tiempo, el equipo comandado por Mukhtar golea a unos muy tímidos Loons.

www.tudn.com

I love the Mexican commentary, "Ggggggoooooooooal de Sam-well William Surridge."

Semifinals: 15 Aug.
Monterrey - Nashville
Philadelphia Union - Inter Miami

 

[valspoodle]

If Nashville keep this up, Sam will already have won more trophies than Harry Kane.

 

[BuckeyeRed]

Leagues Cup Semis:
Philadelphia Union 1-4 Inter Miami

Monterrey 0-2 Nashville SC (guess who scored again)

 

[BuckeyeRed]

Inter Miami win Leagues Cup over Nashville 1-1 and 10-9 on penalties.

44th trophy of Messi's career

 

[BuckeyeRed]

South American tournaments quarterfinals, 1st leg.
Copa Libertadores:
Boca Juniors 0-0 Racing
Deportivo Pereira 0-4 Palmeiras
Bolivar La Paz 0-1 Internacional
Fluminense 2-0 Olimpia

Copa Sudamericana:
Botafogo 1-1 Defensa y Justicia
LDU Quito 2-1 Sao Paulo
Corinthians 1-0 Estudiantes
America Mineiro 1-3 Fortaleza

Return legs next Tue-Thu

 

[The Doctor]

South American tournaments quarterfinals, 1st leg.
Copa Libertadores:
Boca Juniors 0-0 Racing
Deportivo Pereira 0-4 Palmeiras
Bolivar La Paz 0-1 Internacional
Fluminense 2-0 Olimpia

Copa Sudamericana:
Botafogo 1-1 Defensa y Justicia
LDU Quito 2-1 Sao Paulo
Corinthians 1-0 Estudiantes
America Mineiro 1-3 Fortaleza

Return legs next Tue-Thu

Fernando Diniz is the coach of the Brazilian national team and Fluminense.

He is an innovative coach and very original in his tactics.

Anyone who wants to know more of his innovations.

 

[BuckeyeRed]

Welcome Doctor. I look forward to your posts.

 

[BuckeyeRed]

South American competitions have completed the quarterfinals, return legs.
Copa Libertadores:
Racing 0-0 Boca Juniors (0-0 aggregate, Boca go through 1-4 on penalties)
Palmeiras 0-0 Dep. Pereira (4-0 aggregate)
Internacional 2-0 Bolivar (3-0 aggregate)
Fluminense 3-1 Olimpia (5-1 aggregate)

Copa Sudamericana:
Defensa y Justicia 2-1 Botafogo (3-2 aggregate)
Sao Paulo 1-0 LDU Quito (2-2 aggregate, LDU go through 5-4 on penalties)
Estudiantes 1-0 Corinthians (1-1 aggregate, Corinthians go through 2-3 on penalties)
Fortaleza 2-1 America Mineiro (5-2 aggregate)

Semifinals: 26-28 Sep and 3-5 Oct
Libertadores:
Boca Juniors - Palmeiras
Fluminense - Internacional

Sudamericana:
LDU Quito - Defensa y Justicia
Corinthians - Fortaleza

 

[Any Time Now]

Been watching quite a bit of the Brazilian Série A recently, surprised by how poor the quality of football is

 

[BuckeyeRed]

Semifinals of the Copa Sudamericana are complete.
Defensa y Justicia 0-0 LDU Quito (0-3 aggregate)
Fortaleza 2-0 Corinthians (3-1 aggregate)

Fortaleza will meet LDU Quito in the final 28 October in Montevideo

 

[Bonfy177]

Just checked in on DC United …….

Rooney has em on the crest of a slump, 1 win in last 10, beat 3-0 by Chicago

Very polite lot at DC, they asked me a question so I answered

 

[Rzar]

Semifinals of the Copa Sudamericana are complete.
Defensa y Justicia 0-0 LDU Quito (0-3 aggregate)
Fortaleza 2-0 Corinthians (3-1 aggregate)

Fortaleza will meet LDU Quito in the final 28 October in Montevideo

Fortaleza featuring Tobias Figueiredo.

Hasn’t played much but featured on the bench!

 

[BuckeyeRed]

In the first semifinal of the Copa Libertadores, it ended Internacional 1-2 Fluminense.
Fluminense advance to the final 3-4 on aggregate getting 2 late goals to go through.

 

[BuckeyeRed]

In the second Copa Libertadores semi it was Boca Juniors going to Palmeiras and getting a 1-1 draw and going through 4-2 on penalties.
Boca will play in the final 4 Nov at the Maracana in Rio in what is a de facto home game for Fluminense.

 

[Strummer]

Wayne Rooney leaves DC United by „mutual consent“.