Getting rid of VAR would remove one of the most powerful tools the Premier League has got, to get the results it wants.
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Getting rid of VAR would remove one of the most powerful tools the Premier League has got, to get the results it wants.
PynchonForest
John Robertson
Every single referee will have bad games. I saw Collina shit the bed a few times. And one time it was a horrible refereeing performance. That Spanish guy who did the Champions League final a few years ago between Chelsea and City (where he was stellar) ---I have seen him be absolutely awful. What people have to realize is sometimes the players make it very difficult to referee a game. And, conversely, sometimes they make it simple. And the EPL is the toughest league to referee in out of the top leagues.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I'll keep this simple: I don't think there's any justification for some of the refereeing decisions seen this season, not just against Forest.
redforest
Geoff Thomas
Yep, it’s almost like they want to court controversy to give all of the so called experts something to go on about until the next ridiculous decision. Imagine how dull it would be if the ref was fairly anonymous yet effective and there were no VAR decisions to discuss.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Ashley Young made it really easy, and I mean REALLY. It was so bloody simple. The third call was so bloody obvious. Yet somehow Taylor and Attwell managed to miss it.
And no one has managed to justify it. That's why you get the calls of bias and cheating. There's no accountability, how can that be?
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
The first line is fair, but when you see the same ref have poor game multiple times, and make the same obvious errors, you do start to question whether they can be classed as a 'top ref'.
Taylor has been successful, but when I've seen him referee us he has been poor throughout. I'll be honest though and day these days I don't watch much football aside from our games, so perhaps he's just poor reffing us, which still prevents him being a top ref in my eyes, sorry!
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
Thinking of our games alone, this season we've had Tierney make an exceptional blunder (which I understand he tried to explain away, which in itself is criminal), Rob Jones stand right in front of an incident and make a real stupid blunder (nothing more was heard, at least by me) and the inexplicable incidents at Goodison (only thought fit to mention because we made such a fuss). Then there are others, to numerous to mention, (the whole Man U thing and Necos trip, for instance) which means we've either been selected or the refs really are very poor this season.
Red Ray's Redlist
Viv Anderson
Taiwo vs Newcastle
Yates hauled down vs Everton
Isak's penalty vs Newcastle
Handball not given vs Bournemouth. Jones doesn't even give handball and VAR laughably can't overturn it because they weren’t sure if it was in the area.
Numerous offsides given immediately vs Villa despite all being really tight. For Villa we play on until the phase ends.
Toney moves the ball vs Brentford
These are just the ones I can remember in addition to those originally quoted. I'm sure there are loads more before factoring in the soft fouls always given against us but never for, which massively effect games but are unseen in highlights packages.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
What I'd like to see is a crowd- sourced and fan- backed table of all matches for every team in the league, home and away with decisions for and against agreed between the fans. Logistically difficult to produce and more likely to result in subjective disagreements than consensus.
Malwood
Geoff Thomas
What I want to know is who's the referee who's a Tricky Tree who is going to deny penalties to Luton and Burnley?
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
On what basis do you say that, given (e.g.) Italian "dark arts" and ultras, Spanish divers etc.?
Col Steve Austin
Viv Anderson
They can't be.
It's easy to understand why "the English" are hated on the continent, everything "we" do is the best.
Our referees? Best in the world.
Premier league? Best in the world.
Foreign divers? Dirty, cheating bastards.
Our divers? Clever play.
UEFA recommends a VAR system? f*** that, we know best.
Honestly, other nations get mocked for arrogance but the English FA & PL out-arrogance even Parisian waiters.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Agreed. I wonder if eufa have to pull refs from different leagues within the competition? Being the best of a dreadful bunch also doesn't make you good.
Suspect Device
Youth Team
PynchonForest
John Robertson
Pace and physicality. The Italian league isn't quite what it used to be, in terms of dark arts. As for Spain, the pace of most games is demonstrably slower than in England. The slower the pace, the easier it is to see things in real time. And one other thing I have pointed out about England--the pool of managers is a real melting pot compared to other countries top leagues. 15 La Liga managers are Spanish. The Bundesliga is similar, quite certain Italy is too. This creates a greater mix of tactical styles and that, in itself, makes games harder to deal with. Collisions of styles creates new dynamics, and the EPL has a wide variety of tactical ideals. I'm not saying all managers from Spain are the same etc. But they tend to view the game within a certain scope, imho.
apondaway
Viv Anderson
Havertz/Arsenal awarded a penalty for Havertz dragging his foot into the keeper rather than being a man and finishing his chance. Shockingly not overturned by VAR. I am SO surprised.
Rosie
Viv Anderson
OK. If that was a penalty, come on Forest forwards, try “doing a Havertz” today. Let’s see what happens… 
adam09
Super Koopa
Clearly drags his foot to initiate contact.
Should be made to come out and explain.
Tell me there’s no corruption or engineering results and last day title/relegation battles going on here.
Should be made to come out and explain.
Tell me there’s no corruption or engineering results and last day title/relegation battles going on here.
apondaway
Viv Anderson
Oh no, Bournemouth draw one back. WAIT, you breathed on the keeper - not allowed. No goal against Arsenal. LMAO
Canadian_red
Grenville Morris
It seems the threshold is quite variable, Mr Webb.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Just seen the Arsenal penalty. Absolutely laughable.
PynchonForest
John Robertson
I thought Cavanaugh was poor today. The PK against us was 100% legit. Glad nobody complained about it. But his foul recognition was dodgy, imho. I thought the Anel achilles rake should have been looked at. Those are real poor challenges to receive. I've sent off a few players for those over the years. Yates should have been cautioned. Even after advantage, you can book a player for a foul if it's poor enough and reckless enough, and that def was.
HappyHappyJoyJoy
Viv Anderson
I say we tweet this for the shits and giggles
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
I'm on the same page - poor.
adam09
Super Koopa
He let a hell of a lot go both ways but it was consistent wasn’t it? It’s just unusual because we’re used to seeing free kicks given for those flops a lot of the time.
Yates lucky not to get booked but have they changed the law on that recently? If the ref plays advantage, it cancels out the yellow? I’m not sure. Either way, it should be a yellow.
No real controversy for two games in a row, nice isn’t it!
Yates lucky not to get booked but have they changed the law on that recently? If the ref plays advantage, it cancels out the yellow? I’m not sure. Either way, it should be a yellow.
No real controversy for two games in a row, nice isn’t it!