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Ryan James Yates (sponsored by Raymondo Ponté)
- Thread starter Matt
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That performance illustrates the reasons why he’s our captain.
YellowBelly Red
Viv Anderson
Every opposition team hates him, but all secretly would love a playe,r like our Ryan, in their own team.
'mist rollin in'
First Team Squad
I will never understand why he receives so much criticism from some fans - it’s like they have to stick to their narrative of bashing him all the time, such a bizarre take.
MASE
Up-Front
Its really not that difficult to grasp. There will always be an argument as to whether heart & desire wins over technical ability. That argument never goes away whilst Ryan Yates occupies such a key position in a team that's struggled like f*** for a long time. one good season in the championship doesnt feel like a huge amount to show for it.
Played well last night though & your clearly helping Yates when you pair him with some dynamism, which Danillo showed last night. A relatively minor point, but his presence in & around the 18yd box has become largely pointless as he converts nothing.
Worth his place currently, no doubt.
'mist rollin in'
First Team Squad
Good point - Sangare is probably a more technically gifted player than Yates but has shown nothing, so I'm always going to prefer a player who shows desire even if the quality might not always be there. Also an element with Yates that he's the last player standing of that promotion team and has come through the ranks of the academy, which I understand are irrelevant points, but I always think it's important to have a player who can communicate to other players what certain games mean to fans.
Redemption
Agenda Benda
In the Nuno era, Yates picked more than any other MF.
Yet another manager choosing his deficiency over other players.
One coach having that blind spot, I would get. Every coach he plays for falling under his spell, he must have something?
Yet another manager choosing his deficiency over other players.
One coach having that blind spot, I would get. Every coach he plays for falling under his spell, he must have something?
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Red Echo
Youth Team
He doesn't get enough credit for his footballing brain. It'd be easy for a player to get carried away performing his, er, 'agricultural' role in the team, but it never feels like he's at risk of being sent off. The opposite is true - he's out there consistently winning fouls in the Best League In The World™ like a puppet master pulling the strings.
If building a team is all about balance then Yates is just as vital as any flair player, and every Forest manager he's worked under has recognised that that. Long may it continue.
MASE
Up-Front
Whilst not getting us very far.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
What's the bar? He got us promoted, secured out status last year and hopefully will this.
I agree with your previous post re Danilo btw.
For me in an ideal world Sangare is your Yates upgrade, but he hasn't been. One day perhaps? I'd back Yates in that fight, but suspect another might get added.
Red Echo
Youth Team
The year we were promoted was the first (arguably the second) year in which he became a starter for practically every game, so I'm not sure what you mean there.
I don't quite think it was Yates who was holding Diakhaby, Jenkinson, and Freeman back from glory in previous years.
As for the present day, for as long as Forest are trying to be a dogged, counter-attacking team, his value and contribution is clear to see. If a manager eventually comes along who plays possession football with a high line, perhaps not, but that future is nothing but a dream at the minute.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
Indeed. If you look back over the posts in Sangare's thread, he was supposed to be the missing piece that would allow our midfield to control games and allow us to play a more possession based game.
Whilst some of that might just be the over-hyping of a new talent, the fact that he's been an utter passenger most of the time he's been on the field, means that, at this stage, just being a slight upgrade on Yates would be something.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
We all live in a world of Ryan Yates
Probably has the lowest ceiling of our midfielders and at times can clearly look out of his depth, he can take an extra touch or an extra split second to do something which you just don't get at this level.
Fair play to him for making the absolute most of his ability though, if the likes of Marlon King, Abdoun, Carvalho, Ishmael Miller plus many many more had even a smidgen of Yates' drive and will to get better over the years perhaps we'd have established ourselves in the prem long ago.
He's certainly good to have in the squad but if you fast forward 12 months from now and we're still a Premier League club with Ryan Yates starting every game in midfield then we could be in for another long struggle.
Fair play to him for making the absolute most of his ability though, if the likes of Marlon King, Abdoun, Carvalho, Ishmael Miller plus many many more had even a smidgen of Yates' drive and will to get better over the years perhaps we'd have established ourselves in the prem long ago.
He's certainly good to have in the squad but if you fast forward 12 months from now and we're still a Premier League club with Ryan Yates starting every game in midfield then we could be in for another long struggle.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
I agree, and while I think technically he has improved I'll also add that every year of his career a similar thing has been said, so fully expect him to step up again.
Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Deserves a pat on the back for last night's performance.
Credit where credit's due.
Credit where credit's due.
HappyHappyJoyJoy
Viv Anderson
Long may he continue to make his detractors look like fools.
Depends how you define stepping up I suppose. In pure numbers he's not scored since promotion and has 3 assists in that time. I understand his game isn't necessarily about goal contributions but prior to that in the Championship he was chipping in with a decent number of goals.
Being picked in the Premier League and be able to consistently play well in the Premier League are two very different things.
Remind me which league we got into for the first time in 23 years the other season?
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
What I mean is that he'll hit those numbers and prove us wrong. (In that I agree with your post that we need better but can also see a world where he becomes that)
Larry Lansbury
Viv Anderson
The pairing in Centre mid is key. Yesterday combo of Danillo and Yates worked so well. Danillo more box to box and with touch of class, Yates loving the battles in middle and on edge of our box, putting his head and body in. Commentator called him a stunt man after another reply of him putting his body on the line!
Baronvon
Jack Burkitt
Immense last night. If he hadn't made that interception when Aina gave the ball away in a dangerous position, we could have easily gone on to lose that game.
ColwickReds
A. Trialist
Probably been said already but Yates played a great game yesterday. I thought he was 8/10 at the time in the ground but having watched the match twice already in full on the tele he was even better than that. Lost count of the amount of times I shouted "well in Yatesey!".