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Remo Marco Freuler + Trains thread
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isaacs
Viv Anderson
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Wonder if the agreement is both deals, if each club can get them done, will be loan with option?
Frank Clark’s Tash
Jack Burkitt
What's the point of loaning out a 31 year old with an option to buy? It should be mandatory or no deal, Noel.
Make it that the option to buy becomes binding after 3 league starts.
Not that anyone would be daft enough to sign up to something like that.
Danga
Formerly JLingz
The amount of excuses made for this fella is unreal 
soon it will be the grass is too wet in England or the ball is too round.
Enjoy Bologna Remo.
soon it will be the grass is too wet in England or the ball is too round.Enjoy Bologna Remo.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
The amount of excuses made for this fella is unreal
Enjoy Bologna Remo.
Quite.
Meanwhile homegrown lad who plays in the same position and is objectively better in every single department: passing, tackling, shooting, heading, stamina yada yada, still hasa number of people questioning whether he's good enough.
Remo might be a decent player, but he's never shown it here. It tells you everything you need to know we looked our best and got our best return of points when he was benched and our midfield suddenly looked far more dynamic.
I'm sure he's a decent guy and don't get me wrong he tried, but aside from Dennis and the obvious bombsquaded players this is someone who Forest aren't going to miss.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
LOLz
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Yates is a better passer of the ball than Freuler. He progresses it faster, into more dangerous areas, with a retention rate that is probably reasonably similar to Freulers.
Freuler is just an expensive Simon Gillett. That's why he is leaving the club and Yates is likely to start the majority of games he's available for.
Malwood
Geoff Thomas
Yates is the worst header of the ball in the league. Well, not quite, but he's fantastic at getting on the end of crosses, woeful at directing the ball in the right direction.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Fair, I meant winning the header rather than direction!
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Whatever peoples opinions are on either player, I don't think anyone can argue that Yates is far more suited to how we play than Freuler, and offered a lot more than Freuler did last year.
It's in everyone's best interests (including the player himself) that Freuler moves on this summer. Whatever the reasons it just isn't working for him here.
It's in everyone's best interests (including the player himself) that Freuler moves on this summer. Whatever the reasons it just isn't working for him here.
DapperDan
Steve Chettle
I used to like Simon Gillett when he just sat in front of the back four, not so much when he was moved into a more advanced position. Same as Freuler.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
All this is fair comment, but at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we need to be pretty sure we're getting someone else in before we let him go, especially if O'Brien is leaving as well, or we'll end up short in central midfield very easily.
In that circumstance we would have: Mangala, Yates, Danilo (starting most matches at the moment)
Kouyate (sometimes injured, to put it politely)
then ????
In that circumstance we would have: Mangala, Yates, Danilo (starting most matches at the moment)
Kouyate (sometimes injured, to put it politely)
then ????
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I think we need an addition in midfield regardless of Freuler or LOB leaving IMO. Given the links over the summer, it seems to be our main priority.
Benny Dorm
A. Trialist
That is only because to get to the ball first, from corners and free kicks he sticks his head in areas that other players don't.
Samba's Water Bottle
First Team Squad
Under O'Driscoll, the Doncaster Pirlo was twice the player Frueler has been at Forest.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
Brian Fantana
Viv Anderson
I think the style of play probably doesn’t suit Freuler here.
I’d also imagine prime Busquets would probably look ropey playing in a team that isn’t technically as good and doesn’t see much of the ball.
Sticking Freuler in Arsenals midfield he’d suddenly look much more accomplished.
Yates fits us better than he does at the moment.
I’d also imagine prime Busquets would probably look ropey playing in a team that isn’t technically as good and doesn’t see much of the ball.
Sticking Freuler in Arsenals midfield he’d suddenly look much more accomplished.
Yates fits us better than he does at the moment.
youreds1986
Geoff Thomas
I'm not sure that the stats quite show that Yates is 'objectively better' in all of those areas. I'll let you take a look yourself (it's a bit of a mixed bag) https://fbref.com/en/squads/e4a775cb/2022-2023/Nottingham-Forest-Stats
I think people also gloss over January when Freuler was really, really good as we played a little more progressively and we had our other strong run. Then Shelvey arrived and the balance was lost again.
Ultimately, Freuler didnt fit how we ended up playing last year. He needs to play in a team with a decent amount of possession and further up the pitch. He absolutely did do a solid job all year, though and did what was asked of him.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Stats wise none of our midfield cover themselves in glory.
youreds1986
Geoff Thomas
Absolutely.
It's difficult to play well in a midfield that is buried inside its own back 4 or 5, with mostly only one outlet (long over the top to BJ) and for the majority of the season playing with defenders scared of the ball coming within 6 feet of them.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Yates is what we need right now, Freuler isn't.
That doesn't mean that Yates is a better player then Freuler. If he was we'd be inundated with enquiries for him. You don't get that many caps for Switzerland by being shit, which is what many on here have claimed.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
I imagine that he's on a good wedge, Champions League team captain, international and at peak age. For FFP purposes we're probably just happy to get the wage off the books, hopefully with a decent loan fee too.