Since Jack Colback moved on and Shelvey deemed surplus to requirements, it's manifestly obvious that we're painfully short in terms of central-midfield options, which makes me doubt that Steve would be willing to sanction this until a genuine replacement is recruited. Even then (unless he's prepared to offer Lewis O'Brien a place in the 25), further cover is required, as we're only left with Danilo, Kouyate, Mangala and Yates.
The last lad will cover any shortfalls Oats.Since Jack Colback moved on and Shelvey deemed surplus to requirements, it's manifestly obvious that we're painfully short in terms of central-midfield options, which makes me doubt that Steve would be willing to sanction this until a genuine replacement is recruited. Even then (unless he's prepared to offer Lewis O'Brien a place in the 25), further cover is required, as we're only left with Danilo, Kouyate, Mangala and Yates.
Yeah Danny Sonner in his prime. World record fee for someone with the a name rhyming with Donner.Have we ever sold to Juve before?
I’d be happy with:
DM: Sangare, Kouayate
LCM: Danilo, LOB
RCM: Mangala, Yates
AM: MGW, Scarpa
Freuler, Shelvey and Colback out and one top class signing in. Upgrade.
If money is even tighter, O’Brien has value and could be replaced with a good loan.
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I said pretty much the same thing… every game last season.Has Freuler been playing pre season? Haven't noticed him...
I thought he hadn't been involved as he has literally just finished his loan in the US, but if he hasn't got a squad number it's not a good sign for him.LOB has even had his squad number taken off him. Seems like a clue to me
Should said posters change their opinion of him to make you happy?Its amusing going straight from the Johnson thread where most say Brentford fans are entitled, straight to this thread where people are slating a guy who started 24 games for us and helped us survive in a season where logically we should have been relegated easily
It's funny how some players like surridge get hero like tributes after 18 months and just 6 starts, and others who contributed greatly to forest having their best finish in football in 24 years get so much crap written about them
Pretty sure Scarpa has #14 nowI thought he hadn't been involved as he has literally just finished his loan in the US, but if he hasn't got a squad number it's not a good sign for him.
100%, the disrespect this guy gets is ridiculous. And it's probably telling that it's Juve that he could potentially be going too.Its amusing going straight from the Johnson thread where most say Brentford fans are entitled, straight to this thread where people are slating a guy who started 24 games for us and helped us survive in a season where logically we should have been relegated easily
It's funny how some players like surridge get hero like tributes after 18 months and just 6 starts, and others who contributed greatly to forest having their best finish in football in 24 years get so much crap written about them
Yep agree with that. Good player, bad fit for Coopers tactical approach and more than likely the general nature of play in the PL.I don't think he's a bad player. A quick look at his career suggests that he clearly isn't. I'm just not convinced he's suited to the Premier League.
This. Cooper's style is about quick transitions and athleticism. Freuler actually slows the game down which makes me question the thinking behind the recruitment in the first place.I don't think he's a bad player. A quick look at his career suggests that he clearly isn't. I'm just not convinced he's suited to the Premier League.
If Freuler was playing as a lone holding midfielder, like Ben Watson did under Lamouchi, Freuler would be the perfect fit. That's why his nickname is the conductor.Yep agree with that. Good player, bad fit for Coopers tactical approach and more than likely the general nature of play in the PL.
I don't care if people don't rate him, I'm just saying comments like f*** him off and saying he's shit are unnecessary and honestly just not trueShould said posters change their opinion of him to make you happy?
A guy that is also 3rd captain behind Worrall & Yates.I don't care if people don't rate him, I'm just saying comments like f*** him off and saying he's shit are unnecessary and honestly just not true
Hate to break it to people but we aren't some low level championship side anymore and even the worst players in our squad aren't "shit" just because they didn't tear up the most competitive league in the world
Fans demand complete loyalty from any half decent player but any who they don't like for any reason they talk about like that, wonder why these guys just go for money
Forest fans "players should want to sign for us due to our amazing fans"
Other forest fans "this guy who played 28 games as we had best season in 24 years in hardest league in the world and who never seemed to have any issues and no rumours or discipline issues should f*** off, he's useless, I'd drive him to airport myself!"
I think how we ended up playing and how we intended to play are two different things - Cooper's been learning on the job.This. Cooper's style is about quick transitions and athleticism. Freuler actually slows the game down which makes me question the thinking behind the recruitment in the first place.
It's not that he's shit, he's just not a good fit for how we want to play.
I hope Forest can land Sangare and that allows Cooper to play 3 central midfielders (Sangare, Danilo and MGW) as opposed to four.I’d be happy with:
DM: Sangare, Kouayate
LCM: Danilo, LOB
RCM: Mangala, Yates
AM: MGW, Scarpa
Freuler, Shelvey and Colback out and one top class signing in. Upgrade.
If money is even tighter, O’Brien has value and could be replaced with a good loan.
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It's unbelievable the flak he takes on here.Freuler held a lot of shit together for us, especially during our great run in January.
He covered a lot of the gaps left by *the amazing international standard Ryan Yates and did reasonably well given we had few attacking outlets and defended on our 6 yard line.
He's not ideally suited to a Cooper team. But he's a very good footballer and was a model pro