Question about new season tickets

[RRRREDUN]

This is a real conundrum. We should IMHO redesign and rebuild the ground with one thought in mind.
Capacity.
Had we had 45,000 tickets for our playoff final, we'd have sold them all. We have (eventually) gained the attention of the Nottingham public with thousands of people who gave up on Forest 15-20 years ago. I'm not slagging them off; more, I'm criticising successive owners, who made little effort to improve facilities and capacity. There is going to be massive disruption whatever we choose. Unless, of course, we move. Build a new stadium which can hold a bigger capacity and which can be increased easily if needed. Clearly, many of our supporters who went to the play-off final were not regulars but with very little encouragement would buy a season ticket.

 

[thehockleyhustler]

This is a real conundrum. We should IMHO redesign and rebuild the ground with one thought in mind.
Capacity.
Had we had 45,000 tickets for our playoff final, we'd have sold them all. We have (eventually) gained the attention of the Nottingham public with thousands of people who gave up on Forest 15-20 years ago. I'm not slagging them off; more, I'm criticising successive owners, who made little effort to improve facilities and capacity. There is going to be massive disruption whatever we choose. Unless, of course, we move. Build a new stadium which can hold a bigger capacity and which can be increased easily if needed. Clearly, many of our supporters who went to the play-off final were not regulars but with very little encouragement would buy a season ticket.

And now it's clear that 35k also won't be enough.

The whole design need reassessing.

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[Strummer]

I personally believe in the modern era, Forest could sell 45k tickets for Premier League games (including away fans).

The level of demand has changed, and if you’ve got the likes of Villa and Leicester are selling similar amounts then there is no reason why Forest cannot do the same, because you’ll attract the casual fans too who want to come with their smartphone and watch the „big six“.

 

[gamble]

Legacy fans, f*ck you!

Yeah f*** me, 19 season tickets and a massive 2 promotions boooo me for being able to go to home and away games next season having renewed in April for my 20th and will renew for my 10th? Away membership.

I only work evenings and weekends and have to utilise half my a/l every season to be able to go to games, but it's not fair on people who now want a season ticket...

The situation is shit, but I'm not going to be made to feel bad. Where were all these fans when there were only 16k in the CG on a cold Tuesday night watching us lose to a league 1 side or watching another shite championship season getting spanked 4-0 before halftime by Sheffield Wednesday.

Some peoples situations are shit and others really unfortunate and those people I do feel for, but we knew that for the redevelopment to happen we had to reduce the capacity and limit it to 20k at holders. The moving of fans would always upset some fans, and unfortunately logically it makes sense to move the lower Brigford ones. It's not fair on them but what can you do.

 

[Harvey]

You only have to look to the playoff final (albeit a very special occasion) to see how in-demand Forest tickets are and will be next season.

We had fans who couldn't get tickets travelling down from Nottingham just to watch the game with other Reds in bars in London!

Huddersfield didn't even sell out despite many of them being undercover Forest fans. Tells you all you need to know really.

 

[gamble]

I personally believe in the modern era, Forest could sell 45k tickets for Premier League games (including away fans).

The level of demand has changed, and if you’ve got the likes of Villa and Leicester are selling similar amounts then there is no reason why Forest cannot do the same, because you’ll attract the casual fans too who want to come with their smartphone and watch the „big six“.

I don't want them near the club tbh, they make it so the atmosphere is awful. We have an amazing loyal fan base who turn up and make an amazing atmosphere, we turn the CG into a fortress of sound and intimidation. I'd rather have 40k loyal ful blooded Forest fans than 50k where 10-15k are there to see Ronaldo.

 

[Strummer]

Yeah f*** me, 19 season tickets and a massive 2 promotions boooo me for being able to go to home and away games next season having renewed in April for my 20th and will renew for my 10th? Away membership.

I only work evenings and weekends and have to utilise half my a/l every season to be able to go to games, but it's not fair on people who now want a season ticket...

The situation is shit, but I'm not going to be made to feel bad. Where were all these fans when there were only 16k in the CG on a cold Tuesday night watching us lose to a league 1 side or watching another shite championship season getting spanked 4-0 before halftime by Sheffield Wednesday.

Some peoples situations are shit and others really unfortunate and those people I do feel for, but we knew that for the redevelopment to happen we had to reduce the capacity and limit it to 20k at holders. The moving of fans would always upset some fans, and unfortunately logically it makes sense to move the lower Brigford ones. It's not fair on them but what can you do.

Agree.

I - as many know - live in Germany. I had a season ticket for 15 years before I f**ked off, but that’s irrelevant as the Forest ticket system only has the last year or so (typically I can only manage maybe three home games a year due to, well, logistical issues).

I’ve been there at shitholes like Oldham, Carlisle and Hartlepool, plus innumerable seasons in the second tier, but that doesn’t matter anymore.

 

[gamble]

Agree.

I - as many know - live in Germany. I had a season ticket for 15 years before I f**ked off, but that’s irrelevant as the Forest ticket system only has the last year or so (typically I can only manage maybe three home games a year due to, well, logistical issues).

I’ve been there at shitholes like Oldham, Carlisle and Hartlepool, plus innumerable seasons in the second tier, but that doesn’t matter anymore.

It's shit for everyone, and I feel sorry for people like yourself who could struggle to see us live for years.

There should be a quiz you need to take before you are allowed a ticket, see if you genuinely are a forest fan

But this is the joy of the premier League....

 

[Cloughie1975]

I personally believe in the modern era, Forest could sell 45k tickets for Premier League games (including away fans).

The level of demand has changed, and if you’ve got the likes of Villa and Leicester are selling similar amounts then there is no reason why Forest cannot do the same, because you’ll attract the casual fans too who want to come with their smartphone and watch the „big six“.

But that’s only IF we stay in the Premier League and flourish.
It’s such a great shame that the original plan(now 3 years old) to increase the capacity to 38,000 wasn’t seen as an opportunity by a short sighted and bureaucratic council.
We could always later look at ways to increase capacity further if necessary.
Time for some serious arse kicking I think.

 

[Strummer]

It's shit for everyone, and I feel sorry for people like yourself who could struggle to see us live for years.

There should be a quiz you need to take before you are allowed a ticket, see if you genuinely are a forest fan

But this is the joy of the premier League....

Now, that I could get behind.

„Who scored ten goals from defence for Forest after he signed from Wigan Athletic?“

„Who scored a back-heeled goal against Boro in the Cup?“

„Who scored the only goal - and the winner - away at Hartlepool, in an environment that would possibly have been warmer if it had been played at the South Pole, with an ice-pack stuffed down your trousers?“

 

[thehockleyhustler]

Now, that I could get behind.

„Who scored ten goals from defence for Forest after he signed from Wigan Athletic?“

„Who scored a back-heeled goal against Boro in the Cup?“

„Who scored the only goal - and the winner - away at Hartlepool, in an environment that would possibly have been warmer if it had been played at the South Pole, with an ice-pack stuffed down your trousers?“

Complete the song

"His name is rather silly....

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[gamble]

Complete the song

"His name is rather silly....

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I loved that song, be banned now though..

 

[Strummer]

I loved that song, be banned now though..

It’d political correctness gone mad, I tell you.

A bit like the „Oh Nottingham is full of fun“ song, which is incredibly offensive.

 

[DizzyBala]

I think we could reach 45k when it's new and/or if we're doing well but looking at the attendances the last time we were in the Premierleague, I can't see the plastic fan wanting to go if we're in the relegation zone and getting pumped.

I genuinely think if we went back down to the Championship with the 35k and were reasonably competitive, we'd sell out a few games in the Champ too if away teams had say a 3-4k allocation.

Reality is, that whole Bridgford End is going to end up being away fans at some point anyway so while it's pretty shit to have to move your seat now, you'd only have to move anyway.

I don't really see it being viable to increase the stadium capacity beyond 38k, it's been hard enough trying to get permission to do this and we still don't have the green light.

Maybe I'm just being a moany prick. These are the costs of being a Premierleague team I guess but hopefully this season will make it worth it.

 

[DKFOREST66]

Just out of interest i was looking at away allocations at prem clubs. It was quoted that Liverpools usual away allocation in the Anfield rd end was 2000, yet their capacity is around 54000. Man utd's 3000. so our usual 2000 would seem reasonable ?

 

[NG9]

Just out of interest i was looking at away allocations at prem clubs. It was quoted that Liverpools usual away allocation in the Anfield rd end was 2000, yet their capacity is around 54000. Man utd's 3000. so our usual 2000 would seem reasonable ?

Premier league rule is 3,000 or 10% of capacity, if stadium less than 30k. Liverpool number must be incorrect.

 

[Davie]

I just want to be somewhere I can be stood up in peace without someone moaning behind me, where I can start chants and join in without odd looks. I'm often 'that guy' who will try and get something going on a flat rainy Tuesday night game against the nobody teams. For many years, after moving to Nottingham, I largely went to the CG on my own and it was the atmosphere, however laughable that may seem, that always kept my coming back (certainly hasn't been the football). Started off in Bridgford Corner, moved to A Block before transferring to LB by the segregation about 5 years ago.

These days I go with a group of mates, I'm settled in my seat at the back of Y1, and I can do all of the above with zero hassle.

Trivial for some, but for me it's an enormous part of why I go to the football, and I feel completely let down by the club that i'm being shifted. I fear it's going to be a complete free for all (see the FA Cup games this season when LB have had to move) for the remaining seats left in standing areas (whatever is left in A/B, LB and the corner) which are probably not going to be possible to get grouped easily together. I could be back on my own, surrounded by people I don't know, sat down in an area I don't want to be in for our first season back in the Prem. Gutted.

 

[Bonalair]

I feel sorry for the STs being moved, but fans moaning because they used to have an ST but haven’t for years now expecting to get some sort of recognition for it? How would that work? I’ve never had a ST, I’ve had home membership in the past but not for a while, I have done probably 6-10 games a season every season since I moved back down from Edinburgh in 96 (probably only 3 a season while I was up there). Should I get recognition too?

Club are quite right to focus on existing STs and existing home and away members. There’s no other way to do it

 

[Strummer]

I feel sorry for the STs being moved, but fans moaning because they used to have an ST but haven’t for years now expecting to get some sort of recognition for it? How would that work? I’ve never had a ST, I’ve had home membership in the past but not for a while, I have done probably 6-10 games a season every season since I moved back down from Edinburgh in 96 (probably only 3 a season while I was up there). Should I get recognition too?

Club are quite right to focus on existing STs and existing home and away members. There’s no other way to do it

Well, expanding the current stadium would have helped?

Forest, not helped by local politicians, have massively dropped the ball by not getting their plans sorted and work started at the City Ground.

The scramble for playoff tickets and complaints about lack of access to tickets next season clearly shows the demand is there.

But, not for the first time, Forest have let themselves down commercially.

 

[Bonalair]

Again I disagree. Plans are in place, it would have been near impossible to execute during covid.

It’s caught us all by surprise. I’d have bought home membership if not a half ST if I’d have known. Caught them by surprise too. They knew we had reduced capacity coming at some point but at the start of last season who would have thought it would be in the Prem?

I’m disappointed too but It’s a brave new era and we’ve got to accept it

And if you’ve been lots in the past but ended last season with no purchase history, other than extreme personal circumstances, why? And why should you get special treatment?

 

[Your Dad's Ashamed Of You]

On the subject of the PT stand being out of use for a season. I seem to remember the Kippax at Maine Road being knocked down in the Summer of '94 and by the time we visited in October 94 they had the lower tier open (we sat in it) while work was continuing on the upper tiers. I've no idea if our design would allow something similar.

 

[valspoodle]

I feel sorry for the STs being moved, but fans moaning because they used to have an ST but haven’t for years now expecting to get some sort of recognition for it? How would that work? I’ve never had a ST, I’ve had home membership in the past but not for a while, I have done probably 6-10 games a season every season since I moved back down from Edinburgh in 96 (probably only 3 a season while I was up there). Should I get recognition too?

Club are quite right to focus on existing STs and existing home and away members. There’s no other way to do it

I agree. I'm in a similar position to yourself and think that the club have an onerous task to sort out the attendance. The only way to do it is current attendance, with the most regular and ST holders rightly getting priority.

Unless you adopt easy to police measures like this, and it's still complicated by people wishing to sit here there and everywhere with their sister, aunt or Uncle Tom Cobley and all, it's going to deteriorate into an argument that I'm a more long-term fan than you.

 

[valspoodle]

Oh, and it's easy to blame the club for stuff in hindsight without knowing any background details.

I'm not perfect, had problems filling the car this morning at one of those pay at the pump jobs, so I just sit quiet, let the club get on with it and hope they get the stuff on the field right. The rest can wait.

 

[Steve B]

I’ve got it! Let’s use Wembley while they build it like Spurs and Arsenal did. It did used to be our second home after all.

 

[NG9]

Do people think the club will sell any more memberships?

If not, there will be no new fans at Forest games next season. Some would probably approve of that but not a good approach in the long run.