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Official Ivan Toney day 21 - Ivan Toney vs Nottingham Forest - Ivan Toney pm Saturday 20th Ivan Toney 2024

Who will prevail in this relegation dog fight?

  • IVAN TONEY

    Votes: 9 13.2%
  • HARRY TOFFOLO

    Votes: 41 60.3%
  • Mark Warburton

    Votes: 9 13.2%
  • Onions

    Votes: 9 13.2%

  • Total voters
    68

oxonred

First Team Squad
So moving the ball to gain an advantage is deemed acceptable, but imo, then moving the foam to try and make it look like that was where the referee marked the position of the free kick, is not only cheating but should be seen as serious foul play and a red card. I can’t see why the FA can’t look at this and charge him as they do with other offences that are highlighted by the tv footage.
 

IJPS

Supporting NFFC since 1977
He moved the ball about 1ft max. So no complaints from me.
My 16yr old was shouting at our wall well before the kick was taken. Carbon copy of his goal last season. Maybe next time we can shift the wall a good yard over to avoid it bending into the corner. Conference league keepers can set up a better wall that that.
For the record, I like Turner (even though he clearly needs to work on some basics).
 

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Next time we get penalty, I reckon we should dig the spot up and place it within a yard of where the taker wants it. 😁
 

Colh

Stuart Pearce
So moving the ball to gain an advantage is deemed acceptable, but imo, then moving the foam to try and make it look like that was where the referee marked the position of the free kick, is not only cheating but should be seen as serious foul play and a red card. I can’t see why the FA can’t look at this and charge him as they do with other offences that are highlighted by the tv footage.

According to the laws of the game, its sporting misconduct and ‘could’ warrant a yellow or red in extreme cases. I’d argue that the loss of 1 or even 3 points is extreme in our current predicament so without a doubt we have to challenge it surely


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Robertson

Viv Anderson
I’m struggling to see how anyone can think that was a poor performance. It wasn’t our best, but if we play like we did there we’ll pick up a lot of points. Funny how the manager also thought so too.
Goals change games and all that but it’s pretty simple - defend set pieces properly and we win the game.

I certainly don’t remember another time since we came up we had so much possession away from home.
 

Grenville 1898

Nicolás Domínguez - King of the Press
He moved the ball about 1ft max. So no complaints from me.
My 16yr old was shouting at our wall well before the kick was taken. Carbon copy of his goal last season. Maybe next time we can shift the wall a good yard over to avoid it bending into the corner. Conference league keepers can set up a better wall that that.
For the record, I like Turner (even though he clearly needs to work on some basics).
Turner may be a nice guy but he gets too many basics wrong and gets flustered way to easy. He was at fault for the wall yesterday.

If the Forest defensive wall had moved two yards nearer the freekick taker and 'redrawn' the foam line, Brentford fans would have been up in arms. The referree would likely have spotted this and booked one or more Forest players for encroachment and unsportmanlike conduct.

Toney has no defence for his actions.
 

Morpeth

John Robertson
So moving the ball to gain an advantage is deemed acceptable, but imo, then moving the foam to try and make it look like that was where the referee marked the position of the free kick, is not only cheating but should be seen as serious foul play and a red card. I can’t see why the FA can’t look at this and charge him as they do with other offences that are highlighted by the tv footage.
Give him an extended ban due to multiple offences. Shame the long ban started last season.
 

Robertson

Viv Anderson
Regardless of Tony I can see that side getting pulled into things. Poor, and a shame we had so many out.
They have Mbuemo to come back from Afcon as well, but yeah if that’s all they’ve got they aren’t out of the woods yet.

Don’t see Man City, Liverpool or Tottenham (4 of their next 5) being as charitable as us for a start.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
I’m not throwing the towel in,Otis-merely expressing the concerns of many fans at the moment.
I don’t think you singling out Doughty and Arthur is particularly helpful as Forest have NEVER
been a well run club in my opinion since I started supporting them in 1966 (and that includes
the Clough era and it most definitely applies now).
Let’s hope the current crisis blows over-but there must be concern at the moment where all
this is taking us.
I understand and accept the point you're making Cloughie, but historically, many, many clubs have been no better run than us, and most of those that have been are satisfied to exist below the top-level, and I don't believe I'm being disrespectful to the memory of Nigel Doughty by saying that so were we under his ownership.

We had two huge opportunities under Nigel to get back to the PL and he declined both. As for maintaining NFFC's good name within football, his attempt to manipulate the city council by withholding payments on the Trent End bond was both pretty cynical and ultimately unsuccessful, whilst inevitably harming the club's debt rating. His only genuine lasting legacy is the acadamy set-up, for which he is still quite rightly revered, and fully deserving of the Wilford Lane site being named after him.

I genuinely didn't intend for this post to be a pop at you, and I apologise if it appears that way, but your opinion that we're naturally a 2nd-tier club is manifestly wrong. Irrespective of us spending 23-years of the last quarter of a century outside of the top-flight (significantly due to the reasons I've stated above), we're the 10th most successful club in the history of English football in terms of silverware, putting us well ahead of a number of clubs who are currently regarded as 'PL-established', let alone the likes of Leicester or that self-appointed giant of English football, Derby County.

Anyway mate, onwards and upwards.
 

Green Jumper

"Nottingham Forest Are Premier League"
I actually have no problem with Toney shifting the ball a fraction, as it should have been rendered moot by the wall being correctly placed and without a floater off the end. Indeed, the entire phase that led to the free kick should never have happened. Later on, physical mismatches and getting blocked off tracking near post runners at corners is such a basic failing that questions have to be asked.

Going forward, CHO played well and Wood was again impressive, but Danillo's performance was the one that really showed future promise for me. If only Forest could cut out the basic errors and be a bit more clinical, we'd be sitting much prettier in mid-table.
 

NFFCForeverRed

First Team Squad
What i fail to understand is how 5 of our defenders failed to see what was going on with respect to the ball being moved. Even the coaching staff could have seen it and yelled out instructions to tell the ref. It all just seems so amateur to have let this happen.
 

UnFrustratedRed

Grenville Morris
I actually have no problem with Toney shifting the ball a fraction, as it should have been rendered moot by the wall being correctly placed and without a floater off the end. Indeed, the entire phase that led to the free kick should never have happened. Later on, physical mismatches and getting blocked off tracking near post runners at corners is such a basic failing that questions have to be asked.

Going forward, CHO played well and Wood was again impressive, but Danillo's performance was the one that really showed future promise for me. If only Forest could cut out the basic errors and be a bit more clinical, we'd be sitting much prettier in mid-table.
Well you should have a problem with some f***er who is deliberately cheating. He moved the ball nearly 3 feet and , knowing the ref was distracted, moved the foam so when the ref turned around it looked like the ball was where it should have been. Don't defend low life twats like Toney please.
 

Robertson

Viv Anderson
Watching back the corner we conceded from I hadn't noticed Mee push Montiel towards Pinnock, I think, who then blocked him off so Mee got a free run. Murillo didn't have a chance.
They like to think they’re some sort of footballing intellectuals don’t they? But really it’s all dark arts, percentage play stuff. Good at set pieces, our Achilles heel at the moment. Looking forward to forgetting they exist again next week.
 

dr_horse

Geoff Thomas
Yet another thing VAR missed then.
So refs now let lots more go at set pieces knowing it'll get reviewed by VAR.

And one of the things VAR seem to be super soft on is blocking, arm fighting and shirt pulling during set pieces.

So let's just go and hold the f***ers and dare var to give the penalty.

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Jah

Jack Armstrong
I keep seeing people saying yea he moved the ball, but we should have set the wall up right. Well even if he did set the wall up perfect, moving it to the right means the angle Turner would have been working on was no longer valid. So we'll never know if Toney taking the free kick where it was placed would have resulted in the angle being correctly covered.

But at the time we were too busy arguing with each other to see it happen and compensate.

To move the line the ref drew, Toney knew what he was doing - bending the rules, using nouce to make the best of a situation, or cheating, but the narrative is all about the returning hero so the media is just happy it gets the story it was aching for.

Fine Margins, if Mangala puts either of his chances away we go on to win but sadly there are no points for a close second place.
 

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
Letting Toney cheat so he could score on his return is the equivalent of allowing a toddler in hospital win at Ludo because it will raise his spirit. It's fuc king wrong.

Toney was banned for 8 months for breaking the laws of football. Then, in his return, in the first 20 minutes of football, the cnut goes and breaks the laws of football again. Us fans are the mugs who are punished. He should be given a retrospective ban again, otherwise it's sending out a dangerous message.

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