Murillo Santiago Costa dos Santos

[Redemption]

Align the PSR and the transfer windows, it's not rocket science.

The issue with aligning the transfer windows with the accounting period is which way around.

If you let the accounting period go to to the end of the transfer window as it stands, part of your seasonal incomes get confused. Maguire made a good point about this vis Luton - their entire promotion season netted them less revenue than just the first month of their EPL season. it would be quite messy.

If you bring the transfer window to end before the new season kicks a ball, you have to do all your business early, but this would have been difficult for play-off winners like Forest; it was a challenge as it was. In addition, if this is only an EPL rule, then the transfer window outside of the league would make it harder to bring in decent players because other leagues would benefit from the extra month or so.

The EPL did try to close the transfer window before the season started. There was no opposition from any club to extending it again. The trial lasted a single season.

 

[Notcher]

The whole thing is far too complex and each solution creates a different problem. They're trying to find a solution for something but forgotten what it is they were trying to fix.

That was simply to avoid a situation where owners could walk away whilst leaving nothing but debt. The solution is for a fixed bond to be put in place which is retained by the league. The appropriate bond should be in place along with a business plan before the season begins and a club is not allowed to take it's golden share/registration for the season until it is.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

I don't think Omobamidele is too far off Murillo, he's just not got the Brazilian aura..

He's nowhere near him.

He's not as strong or fast, he's not as good with the ball, he doesn't read the game as well.

Literally nothing in Omobamidele's game is in a level with Murillos, that's why the latter could go for £50m+ in summer and why the former wouldn't have any interest from other clubs if we were simply trying to recoup our money.

Omobamidele is for me currently a top Championship player with the possibly of becoming a mid table PL player. Murillo is currently a mid table PL player with the prospect of becoming world class.

 

[Gyros Peter]

He's nowhere near him.

He's not as strong or fast, he's not as good with the ball, he doesn't read the game as well.

Literally nothing in Omobamidele's game is in a level with Murillos, that's why the latter could go for £50m+ in summer and why the former wouldn't have any interest from other clubs if we were simply trying to recoup our money.

Omobamidele is for me currently a top Championship player with the possibly of becoming a mid table PL player. Murillo is currently a mid table PL player with the prospect of becoming world class.

Yeah but don't forget on here he's 5 foot 2 and can't head or defend. I sometimes wonder if Charlie Mcparland (claims CHO not worth the 3m we paid and wouldn't recoup that fee) has multiple accounts.

 

[Rubics]

The whole thing is far too complex and each solution creates a different problem. They're trying to find a solution for something but forgotten what it is they were trying to fix.

That was simply to avoid a situation where owners could walk away whilst leaving nothing but debt. The solution is for a fixed bond to be put in place which is retained by the league. The appropriate bond should be in place along with a business plan before the season begins and a club is not allowed to take it's golden share/registration for the season until it is.

With everybody in the league allowed to spend up to the same agreed level. I.e. the possibility of a level playing field that doesn’t risk clubs futures.
Tourist clubs will never agree though - they’ll fight tooth and nail to keep their advantage.

 

[Notcher]

With everybody in the league allowed to spend up to the same agreed level. I.e. the possibility of a level playing field that doesn’t risk clubs futures.
Tourist clubs will never agree though - they’ll fight tooth and nail to keep their advantage.

They're not compelled to actively agree, they can directly oppose by not voting in favour when it's put to the PL vote. If they feel want to represent their faithful tourists with something even more tangible, they could always take themselves away and form something like a super league. They can tourist themselves to death like a football Harlem Globetrotters.

We get to say off you f***, they get to do whatever they like and the rest of the football world can get back to competitive football. We can reclaim meritocracy based winners rather than which clubs state owners happened to draw the best lines for borders around the naturally occuring oil that they happened to find in their back garden.

 

[Harry1982]

I don't think Omobamidele is too far off Murillo, he's just not got the Brazilian aura..

His not far off being a decent premier league Cb but think he isn't ever going to be what murillo is or going to be.

 

[GOBIAS]

Align the PSR and the transfer windows, it's not rocket science.

I thought the my were doing next year.

 

[FBS]

Just saw him in the "Bring the Noise" video the club have posted. His English is pretty good.

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[valspoodle]

Was thinking about his future when I heard Alonso say he was staying at Leverkusen. What if Alonso goes off the boil and his star starts to wane next season? Strike while the iron is hot I hear you say; well, actually it was me saying that.

But the same thought entered my head. Do we sell Murillo in the Summer for as much as we can get or keep him hoping he's going to progress and help us into the bargain?

Of course, all subject to staving off relegation.

 

[Strummer]

Was thinking about his future when I heard Alonso say he was staying at Leverkusen. What if Alonso goes off the boil and his star starts to wane next season? Strike while the iron is hot I hear you say; well, actually it was me saying that.

But the same thought entered my head. Do we sell Murillo in the Summer for as much as we can get or keep him hoping he's going to progress and help us into the bargain?

Of course, all subject to staving off relegation.

It is an open secret in Germany VP, that FC Bayern would have thrown the kitchen sink at Xabi Alonso to get him to München, but he has built an exciting, exhilarating side in Leverkusen after picking them up when they were in the the bottom three (which does not seem possible now) eventually recovering to sixth, before this season, disappearing out of sight - ten points clear at the top - and unbeaten in 38 matches now in all competitions.

Whatever happens, it will be the Champions League next season for Die Werkself, and I do wonder if Xabi fancies a run at that competition with Leverkusen - a team he has built in his image - rather than having the ridiculous pressure to win it that would come at Bayern or indeed the Scousers.

His Leverkusen side are a joy to watch, and I would encourage anyone who hasn‘t seen them play to watch them, they play a tactically flexible pressing game and in Florian Wirz, they have one of the best young attacking players in Europe.

 

[GOBIAS]

It is an open secret in Germany VP, that FC Bayern would have thrown the kitchen sink at Xabi Alonso to get him to München, but he has built an exciting, exhilarating side in Leverkusen after picking them up when they were in the the bottom three (which does not seem possible now) eventually recovering to sixth, before this season, disappearing out of sight - ten points clear at the top - and unbeaten in 38 matches now in all competitions.

Whatever happens, it will be the Champions League next season for Die Werkself, and I do wonder if Xabi fancies a run at that competition with Leverkusen - a team he has built in his image - rather than having the ridiculous pressure to win it that would come at Bayern or indeed the Scousers.

His Leverkusen side are a joy to watch, and I would encourage anyone who hasn‘t seen them play to watch them, they play a tactically flexible pressing game and in Florian Wirz, they have one of the best young attacking players in Europe.

He can also bide his time for Liverpool if he wants to, following a successful manager and a big character like Klopp won’t be easy. He might as well wait for their stock to be lower and expectations a little lower.

Real Madrid are constantly in need of a new manager so he could probably do that at a later date anyway. He has done well at leverkusen and if he continues to that job will buy him loads of credit. He could try Liverpool and not get on and still have a pop at the Madrid job down the line.

I think his decision may also help him in the long run. On top of his obvious skill as a manager it shows him as honourable and also slightly stubborn and a belief in himself. Most people just assumed he’d jump at a bigger job close to his heart but he seems to have a loyalty to the team and faith in his ability. Someone like Lampard I think just wanted to take big jobs predictably as he knew he’d probably get found out. If you play hard to get it probably isn’t a bad thing.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

His Leverkusen side are a joy to watch, and I would encourage anyone who hasn‘t seen them play to watch them, they play a tactically flexible pressing game and in Florian Wirz, they have one of the best young attacking players in Europe.

I might give them a watch against West Haaaaam then.

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[andyd]

The issue with aligning the transfer windows with the accounting period is which way around.

If you let the accounting period go to to the end of the transfer window as it stands, part of your seasonal incomes get confused. Maguire made a good point about this vis Luton - their entire promotion season netted them less revenue than just the first month of their EPL season. it would be quite messy.

If you bring the transfer window to end before the new season kicks a ball, you have to do all your business early, but this would have been difficult for play-off winners like Forest; it was a challenge as it was. In addition, if this is only an EPL rule, then the transfer window outside of the league would make it harder to bring in decent players because other leagues would benefit from the extra month or so.

It doesn’t have to be that complicated, does it? Surely the most common sense approach is to end the accounting period on May 31st, that way the season is over and you can judge the accounts for the actual season in question. There would be no messing about with sales in June or deadlines in the middle of the transfer window, the pressure for sales would be in January which wouldn’t be a bad thing to stimulate that market a bit.

I honestly don’t see any negatives to that approach or any reason for them not to do it.

 

[Larry Lansbury]

Massive shout to Murillo, he got an assist for Woods goal for a brilliant ball to his feet. Then his ball for MGW from free kick, which led to CHO goal was even better. I might be wrong but have we ever had a centre back with this level of vision, quality and ability to start attacks and create chances. But to move up to that elite level he has to become more dominant in the air though.

 

[GOBIAS]

Massive shout to Murillo, he got an assist for Woods goal for a brilliant ball to his feet. Then his ball for MGW from free kick, which led to CHO goal was even better. I might be wrong but have we ever had a centre back with this level of vision, quality and ability to start attacks and create chances. But to move up to that elite level he has to become more dominant in the air though.

His passing is breathtaking. That ability to pass forward through the lines so consistently is absolutely elite.

 

[SparrowsAnus]

The way he sprays it to CHO on the wing with the perfect weight and just out of reach of the opposition time after time is fantastic. Kick starts us so many times.

 

[Red Echo]

Massive shout to Murillo, he got an assist for Woods goal for a brilliant ball to his feet. Then his ball for MGW from free kick, which led to CHO goal was even better. I might be wrong but have we ever had a centre back with this level of vision, quality and ability to start attacks and create chances. But to move up to that elite level he has to become more dominant in the air though.

Add in the fact that he's left footed and is a brick shithouse, and he's a bit of a unicorn really.

The defensive side of his game is what makes me think (hope!) we might get to keep him for another couple of years though. Most clubs want the finished article when spending 50m+ and his defensive inexperience shows its head now and again.

 

[GOBIAS]

Add in the fact that he's left footed and is a brick shithouse, and he's a bit of a unicorn really.

The defensive side of his game is what makes me think (hope!) we might get to keep him for another couple of years though. Most clubs want the finished article when spending 50m+ and his defensive inexperience shows its head now and again.

I think he’s pretty accomplished defensively as well. Especially considering how inexperienced he is.

 

[T.B.T.]

Not nearly enough recognition and appreciation for this guy.

In a team of performances his contribution is somewhat overshadowed but let’s not ignore that Murillo is one hell of a defender and his passing precision is sublime at times.

We’re lucky to have him and we’ll be lucky to keep him.

 

[Strummer]

Whoever scouted this lad needs to get back on a plane to Brazil, and find a couple more like him.

For what he cost - a bargain - he’s been immense.

 

[GOBIAS]

Not nearly enough recognition and appreciation for this guy.

In a team of performances his contribution is somewhat overshadowed but let’s not ignore that Murillo is one hell of a defender and his passing precision is sublime at times.

We’re lucky to have him and we’ll be lucky to keep him.

I think it is a credit to Murillo as it is seen as the norm such a performance.

We rightfully give players allowances for being young, stepping in to the premier league level and moving continents. Murillo has done all that with the ease of me nipping to get a paper, and he has done it in a much more entertaining way than me nipping for a paper!

 

[Robertson]

I think it is a credit to Murillo as it is seen as the norm such a performance.

We rightfully give players allowances for being young, stepping in to the premier league level and moving continents. Murillo has done all that with the ease of me nipping to get a paper, and he has done it in a much more entertaining way than me nipping for a paper!

BT sport were gushing the other day about how “incredible” and “amazing” it is that Declan Rice has fitted into the Arsenal set up so quickly. f***er hasn’t even had to move house! 200 premier league appearances already under his belt as well.

Compare that to Murillo. What was it 10-20 senior appearances in Brazil full stop? Ridiculous.

 

[GOBIAS]

BT sport were gushing the other day about how “incredible” and “amazing” it is that Declan Rice has fitted into the Arsenal set up so quickly. f***er hasn’t even had to move house! 200 premier league appearances already under his belt as well.

Compare that to Murillo. What was it 10-20 senior appearances in Brazil full stop? Ridiculous.

That’s it, he hasn’t even stepped up from the championship or a 2 season stint in the Brazilian league or a Spanish league. He has literally played a month or so in Brazil as a senior pro and just instantly nailed down a regular spot in the premier league. It’s remarkable.

 

[valspoodle]

I suppose it becomes a problem when a player plays consistently well that we all tend to regard that as normal and so it passes much attention.

I'm glad we do continue to praise the lad. Another youngster we have who has ability, heart and modesty, content to let his football do the talking. Though I guess only his fellow Brazillians can really talk to him at the moment.