Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Just go online. There's been several post made on here where it's been said to look at the reply thread. It's overwhelmingly in our favour. Just as example, look at the replies under this.
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Matchday 34 - Everton v Nottingham Forest - „El Fiasco!“ - Sunday, 21st April KO 1:30pm
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EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
I will look at the replies on here but no neutral I know in real life interactions has stuck up for us. Have you or any others spoke to a neutral who believe Forest were right to do what we did?
ozthecoz
Geoff Thomas
FFP has cost us 4 points.
It's a fair argument that the poor officiating and VAR have cost us over double that
MC Plantpot
First Team Squad
Your office is still a small sample size Emmo. It might extrapolate to wider opinion, but I’d be cautious at this point using your office banter as a barometer to wider opinion.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
But we could have prevented FFP problems-there’s bugger all we can do about poor referees.
I'm just pointing out that a neutral in here is thinking you did the right thing, wasn't a comment specifically aimed at you.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
I've spoken to 5 other supporters, properly which are mates in WhatsApp groups. 4 of them agree with it and 1 didn't which probably reflects the feeling online. The responses underneath the video I posted are worth looking at, you'll be surprised.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
Family, friends and office and not one neutral agrees with the statement. I haven’t seen any media agreeing. Than we have ex Forest players like Stan Collymore and Stuart Pearce not agreeing. If you can’t even get psycho on board than I don’t have confidence that any opinion is on our side. Not every fan on LTLF agrees with it.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Norwich City fans largely backing us: https://forum.pinkun.com/index.php?/topic/156345-forest-have-had-enough/
An actual referee forum (so you know, not neutral) which seems split between "how dare they" and "yeah we have a problem here though": https://refchat.co.uk/threads/everton-forest.23532/page-2
Millwall fans in favour: https://millwallonline.com/forum/threads/forest-rant-at-var.55666/
Burnley fans in favour: https://www.uptheclarets.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=75490&start=50
Getting bored of trawling other clubs forums now so I'll stop. Consensus is Forest were right to kick off (albeit perhaps they could have approached it slightly less petulantly). The only fans forum who had a consensus against us was Rangers, but they're strange people and were apoplectic about us spending money. Joe Worrall really lives in their heads rent free still.
magicwoand
It tizwas it is
Stan Collymore is saying none of them where penalties, he’s most likely gone again.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
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Notcher
Stuart Pearce
The media won't agree. They don't want the heat with the PL and to lose any broadcast rights.
You're reading the wider room completely wrong Emmo. You've been directed to where it's clear that people are in support.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
No that’s fair and I will have to read those forums, cause my mates agreed we should have had some pennos. However the statement was crossing line. I do t think it’s in doubt that most people thought the ref was poor. However saying in a statement that you “warned the VAR ref was a Luton fan” was mafioso to me. The implication of the statement is there is bias against Forest which I haven’t met one person who thinks that. So when I’m not working I’ll read those forums in detail to get the nuance.
Stocky Red
First Team Squad
I think generally our collective view of performance is totally wrapped up in the result
folk saying we were poor, or showed no fight, or this and that, but the penalty shouts were a result of us playing decent football, being in attacking positions and threatening their goal. That third 'decision' were CHO is in front of his marker is given 100% of the time. The other 2, maybe the ref didn't see them, but then what is the point of VAR.
We get 2 of those and it's entirely different game, and suddenly the narrative is how well we defended set pieces and how we didn't let us get dragged down to their level, how we showed attacking instinct and used our skill players to get a result (which is what everyone wanted us to do before the game)
We are a flakey team, low on confidence, lacking leadership, against another team scrapping for their lives, away from home where we have won 3 games in 2 seasons.
We lost because of the decisions, and if we score even 1 peno then the world would look a lot different this morning.
folk saying we were poor, or showed no fight, or this and that, but the penalty shouts were a result of us playing decent football, being in attacking positions and threatening their goal. That third 'decision' were CHO is in front of his marker is given 100% of the time. The other 2, maybe the ref didn't see them, but then what is the point of VAR.
We get 2 of those and it's entirely different game, and suddenly the narrative is how well we defended set pieces and how we didn't let us get dragged down to their level, how we showed attacking instinct and used our skill players to get a result (which is what everyone wanted us to do before the game)
We are a flakey team, low on confidence, lacking leadership, against another team scrapping for their lives, away from home where we have won 3 games in 2 seasons.
We lost because of the decisions, and if we score even 1 peno then the world would look a lot different this morning.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
You see you can make arguments.
The Reyna one for me was 100% a dive. I just know from playing football. The kick was nowhere near enough to bring someone down like that. Reyna felt it and went down after. The young one it was unintentional and close. I felt his arm was too out in my opinion so a penno. Than Hudson Odoi you can argue it was a tangle of legs . I felt young brought Hudson Odoi down. Football is a grey area and that’s the problem.
I don’t agree with Stan but I am making the point that people who should be bias for us aren’t even sticking up for us.
magicwoand
It tizwas it is
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
You can make arguments why they weren’t given. Not I agree with all those.
rockhopper
Jack Armstrong
All I can say is you must have a good job if your spending all your time posting on this forum instead of actually working
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magicwoand
It tizwas it is
You can argue over anything, it doesn’t make an argument valid. The challenge on CHO is one of those, that’s a penalty in the olden days, modern times and VAR times. And it’s also a sending off which seems to have been lost in the tweet furore.
Stocky Red
First Team Squad
I think we should respect her decision to live the life she wanted to.
Doesn't change the fact we should have had 3 penalties and it would have changed the result which would have changed the atmosphere.
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
If you deserve promtion at work, but the waster who sits and chats up the birds all day gets it instead, do you complain, or just take it?
Some complain, some take it.
Takes balls to complain sometimes. You don't complain to curry favour with others, you complain to tell people you are bloody pissed off with their system.
Some complain, some take it.
Takes balls to complain sometimes. You don't complain to curry favour with others, you complain to tell people you are bloody pissed off with their system.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
You need to find people who've watched all of the decisions in our games, both for and against, before they are qualified to make such a judgement on bias against Forest or not.
There's not many people who are both genuinely neutral and who have taken the time to look through our archive "highlights" - the ones that have and have a voice in the media are treading carefully with their commentary but suggesting there is a problem.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
A tangle of legs which was caused by the defender, who has no right to touch the forward from behind in that position. Only one thing should results from such a tangle. Strangely neither the referee nor VAR saw fit to give it.
The Hudson-Odoi one was the most blatant of the three, Young goes into the back of him and clips his heel, missing the ball entirely.
That’s a foul, anywhere on the pitch. You just can’t do that as a defender.
That’s a foul, anywhere on the pitch. You just can’t do that as a defender.