Lewis Grabban

[Cloughie1975]

I understood that the Murphy/club ethos is now to bring in younger players with a potential sell on value.
Grabban is a good footballer(at this level),but I still reckon we need younger more mobile strikers to really
progress.
I take Statto's point about Dawson-surely the era of offering ageing players a final pension is over.

 

[Notcher]

I understood that the Murphy/club ethos is now to bring in younger players with a potential sell on value.
Grabban is a good footballer(at this level),but I still reckon we need younger more mobile strikers to really
progress.
I take Statto's point about Dawson-surely the era of offering ageing players a final pension is over.

The difference here is that Grabban is already at the club and showing that he still has plenty to offer. The hardest job in the business is sticking the ball in the onion bag and he is still doing it so keeping him here for another year is a no brainer. It can't be underestimated how much it will help the education and development of our younger strikers having him on the training ground either.

Sent from my AGS3-W09 using Tapatalk

 

[gamble]

I understood that the Murphy/club ethos is now to bring in younger players with a potential sell on value.
Grabban is a good footballer(at this level),but I still reckon we need younger more mobile strikers to really
progress.
I take Statto's point about Dawson-surely the era of offering ageing players a final pension is over.

Grabban hasn't ever really been inured whilst here, at the end of his first season he missed about 1-2 months and then he's had the odd knock here and there like every player does.

Grabban is still scoring, he's playing like he did at the start of his career here, so to me unless there is an underlying issue fitness wise then we'd be foolish not to offer a guy who will score 10-20 goals a year/2 deal.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

 

[Mr. Blonde]

You have to judge each player on their merits

Grabban may be approaching his mid thirties but for me there aren't any signs he's slowing down or that he can't still keep knocking them in.

Teddy Sheringham was still scoring goals for fun in the Premier League at Lewis' age

 

[gamble]

You have to judge each player on their merits

Grabban may be approaching his mid thirties but for me there aren't any signs he's slowing down or that he can't still keep knocking them in.

Teddy Sheringham was still scoring goals for fun in the Premier League at Lewis' age

As was Phillips in this league at 41.

Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk

 

[Notcher]

Teddy Sheringham was still scoring goals for fun in the Premier League at Lewis' age

Neither of which have never had any reliance on pace and have a very intelligent football brain. The same with Kevin Phillips.



Sent from my AGS3-W09 using Tapatalk

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Neither of which have never had any reliance on pace and have a very intelligent football brain

What?

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

Grabban's game isn't really based on pace so no real reason why he can't carry on later than a lot of strikers do.

True, but ya still have to have that quick 5 yard spurt to get in front of the defender/s. That'll go.

Buriz gora nuva season shirley.

 

[Red bandit]

True, but ya still have to have that quick 5 yard spurt to get in front of the defender/s. That'll go.

Buriz gora nuva season shirley.

Google translate was no help at all with that second sentence.

Thought it might be Belorussian.

 

[cheapseats]

I understood that the Murphy/club ethos is now to bring in younger players with a potential sell on value.
Grabban is a good footballer(at this level),but I still reckon we need younger more mobile strikers to really
progress.
I take Statto's point about Dawson-surely the era of offering ageing players a final pension is over.

And isn't that exactly the point?. No ones disputing that Grabban has been a great servant to the club, but the Dawson point is real-his game wasn't about pace either, he played with "his head" yet he was absolutely buggered in the last 18 months of his contract with us. Maybe he was on a pittance but I doubt it and for every decision we make like that we have less cash available for the real Dale agenda. So I think we need to be hard nosed and like Sinister wait until after Christmas, then get a 1 year deal signed with a gentleman's agreement that if he stays fit and all parties wish it a second year can be discussed.......Ultimately if Lewis thinks he can do better at 36, well that's his prerogative

 

[Fawazzock]

I’d like to know more about the REAL Dale agenda

 

[Mist from the Trent]

I imagine he is one of the better paid players at the club. I think he would definitely be worth another year, but with a big wage cut.

 

[Shearstone]

He might not want to extend. Might fancy his chances at a final payday somewhere like Qatar. Like he was linked with when Sabri was sacked.

 

[Eddie Yates]

Grabban has been excellent since he came here & has justified his £6m fee, he's got another season in him

Dawson although technically very good was pretty much shot & more interested in supporting Spurs on Sky

 

[Eddie Yates]

Grabban has been excellent since he came here & has justified his £6m fee, he's got another season in him

Dawson although technically very good was pretty much shot & more interested in supporting Spurs while working for those tosspots on Sky

 

[Statto]

Dawson was a class act when he came in for that first season under Karanka and was the same when he played afterwards. His body just wasn't up to playing professionally at this level any more.

Admittedly I think we wanted him that half season before in the window we signed Lolley, pants, Watson, Colback etc but couldn't get the deal through in time. Then he would have had much more of a swansong with us.

But yes, the comparisons with Grabban whilst not valid since he joined the club - as he was what, 30 then - are less valid as he had much more of his prime here (and actually, unlike Dawson was late getting into first team football especially in this division) but where we are at now, or about to be, is closer - i.e. a 35 year old Grabban with a 35 year old Dawson. And whilst his game doesn't rely on pace he still needs to be able to move quickly enough to get on defenders and to get time and space to shoot, which will naturally decline as he gets older. He isn't going to keep firing them in for ever and one injury could derail an older pro. (It isn't football, but look at Murray's hip). We do really need to be looking in the next year or 2 to replace Grabban as the main first team striker.

 

[justnotjase]

In my opinion, anyone not wanting Grabban to extend for at least a year is absolutely bonkers. Yes Murphy wants to get the age of the squad down, which is great, but you don't let a 10/20 goal striker just walk away without a guaranteed replacement. Have both if necessary, Grabban and a younger model (who's going to cost £5+ minimum by the way). Phase Grabban out of the team eventually, but he's currently one of the top five assets to the team at least, why would you just let him go?

 

[valspoodle]

I think another year on his contract, then get a young striker in who can be tutored by the experienced pro. We also then have a choice of strikers to play a varied game.

 

[Cortez the Killer]

Bobby Zamora was 33 when he scored to put QPR in the PL. I can't remember who the opposition was though. Can anyone recall?

Sent from my SM-A920F using Tapatalk

 

[Cloughie1975]

I think another year on his contract, then get a young striker in who can be tutored by the experienced pro. We also then have a choice of strikers to play a varied game.

I think a one year deal is a reasonable proposition VP(provided he stays fit this season and his wage demands are
realistic),I feel a 2 year deal is pushing it,though.

 

[Darcy]

It will also come down to what grabs wants out of this, he might not want only 1 more year. If he is asking for 2 years min then it might be wise to look at other options.

 

[congo_red_49]

I'd consider a two year deal if he's looking for security. Of course, it would come at a significant reduction in salary - either across the two years, or a pre-agreed percentage decrease after year one.

Everything is a negotiation.

 

[Rzar]

Have we seen any decline in his physical or playing ability in the 4 years he has been here? Not really at all. Until we do I would keep extending. Put it this way, if he goes you are going to have to add another striker to find on top of the one or two we already need.

For me he is as sure of a guarantee of goals you will get at this level especially under a manager that will create for him. He won't be agitating to play every game at his age like he has in the past & he clearly has huge respect in the dressing room. It is a no brainer for me.

 

[Strummer]

Everything is a negotiation.

„Nice bakery you have there; it would be a shame if something happened to it, yes?“

 

[Harry1982]

I'd give him 2 years atleast, his proven a great striker and even off the bench he repays that contract quite easily. Like Sharpe for Sheffield United the other week that ability around the box for the last 20 minutes can instantly change a game.