Lewis Grabban

[Dan_Bristol]

A reasonable decision by the club.

Not a club decision, Lewis Grabban has agreed to stay. had he wanted out completely, he would be gone. It's all player power these days, contracts aren't worth the paper there written on.

The club can only turn down an offer if there is one, but risk upsetting player and he would not play (injury) or not perform. Players hold all the aces.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

Not a club decision, Lewis Grabban has agreed to stay. had he wanted out completely, he would be gone. It's all player power these days, contracts aren't worth the paper there written on.

The club can only turn down an offer if there is one, but risk upsetting player and he would not play (injury) or not perform. Players hold all the aces.

Maybe Marinakis sent him an invitation to discuss the matter at a bakery?

 

[Dan_Bristol]

Maybe Marinakis sent him an invitation to discuss the matter at a bakery?

Lardibun or Mardibum?

 

[Haych]

Glad Grabban’s staying, I imagine the links might crop back up in January though

 

[Dan_Bristol]

Glad Grabban’s staying, I imagine the links might crop back up in January though

Hope so, will mean we get 'shop window' type performances.

 

[Carlos]

Hmm I would have preferred him gone tbh , And how noble of him to carry on seeing out his contract.
I suspect he has been told he can go in January, Personally think he won't be arsed now so we should have let him go.

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I think I'm with you on that mate. Hopefully we are both wrong as another player doing a Lansbury is the last thing needed.

 

[Ravi]

Glad Grabban’s staying, I imagine the links might crop back up in January though

That's ok because we can possibly replace him then.

Glad he's chosen to stay for now.

 

[Bob Fossil]

Ok but just take the bloody armband off him and give it to McKenna or Arter.

Terrible decision to make him captain.

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

Not a club decision, Lewis Grabban has agreed to stay. had he wanted out completely, he would be gone. It's all player power these days, contracts aren't worth the paper there written on.

The club can only turn down an offer if there is one, but risk upsetting player and he would not play (injury) or not perform. Players hold all the aces.

This is not true. It's true that it's often difficult for a club to hold on to a player who is desperate to leave, but the club still needs to agree to an offer made. And it would be stupid to make all players believe they can leave whenever they want, whatever the offer. What's the point of contracts then?

Benfica wanted our excellent CB, but somewhat problematic individual Rúben Semedo. Everyone (myself included) was certain that the sell would happen, although Benfica offered only 7m, precisely because the player himself reportedly wanted to go, and even hinted that he does publicly. But we kept demanding for more money, refused offers for upwards of 10m, and eventually the player stayed. We just renewed his contract offering him exactly the wages Benfica was offering him. He's been excellent in his last appearances.

A disgruntled player is of no use, but most players can see that it's not in their best interest to play as disgruntled players.

 

[DizzyBala]

Great news, hopefully he can get his head down and start scoring goals to shut the doubters up.

 

[Flaggers]

Will this increase or remove the "face like a smacked arse" he's been going round with for a few weeks?

 

[thehockleyhustler]

Ok but just take the bloody armband off him and give it to McKenna or Arter.

Terrible decision to make him captain.

Yep, either of those 2 will do.

No matter how many goals he scores, Grabban offers almost zero leadership on the pitch.

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[Danga]

Will this increase or remove the "face like a smacked arse" he's been going round with for a few weeks?

Maybe he will start playing with a little bit of effort too so we aren't starting games with 10 men.

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[Otis Redding]

At least whilst he's out-of-sorts and/or struggling with an injury we have, unlike last season, a proven alternative in Taylor, and even, by all accounts, a decent-enough back-up for him in Guerrero.

I agree with Ravi earlier in that this will probably be re-visited in January. In the meantime, hopefully he'll soon be back to playing how we know he can.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

Hmm I would have preferred him gone tbh , And how noble of him to carry on seeing out his contract.
I suspect he has been told he can go in January, Personally think he won't be arsed now so we should have let him go.

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You can’t leave yourself short, welll end up playing Ameobi up front and it will be like having Mir all over again. Ideal world well well and get a replacement in but it’s not an ideal world

 

[Ravi]

Ok but just take the bloody armband off him and give it to McKenna or Arter.

Terrible decision to make him captain.

No it wasn't. The reasons where stated earlier in the thread. What is it you think a captain actually does?

I'm sure stripping him of, what is largely a symbolic role after half a dozen games, would have a real positive impact on not only Grabban's confidence, but also team trust and morale. :dry:

 

[incapable hulk]

Fantastic news. Grabban has proven time and again that he’s a quality player at this level, even if the impatient armchair managers on here don’t think so.

If we have any designs on promotion at all then we need to keep our best players and he’s one of them.

 

[Bob Fossil]

No it wasn't. The reasons where stated earlier in the thread. What is it you think a captain actually does?

I'm sure stripping him of, what is largely a symbolic role after half a dozen games, would have a real positive impact on not only Grabban's confidence, but also team trust and morale. :dry:

Yes it was.

Putting the fact that he's a striker and therefore unable to easily influence the play in front or around him as well as defenders or midfielders aside for now, he's not vocal in the slightest and has an extremely relaxed manner. Which is fine but not necessarily what you want in your captain when the chips are down and you need the others firing up or directing accordingly. He'd also be better off concentrating on his main job- putting the ball in the net without such a distraction

Worst possible choice out of all the regulars in the first 11.

 

[Ravi]

That's the manager's and the coaches job.

Football captains don't need to do much. They certainly don't have to be frequent fist pumpers who yell at the rest of the team for 90 minutes. There are plenty of relatively quiet captains who are chosen because of their record and experience on the pitch rather than their ability to fist pump.

Grabban was an obvious choice because of his excellent record last season and because he's probably going to be the most experienced player on the pitch. An excellent example for the other players to look up to.

 

[Bob Fossil]

That's the manager's and the coaches job.

Football captains don't need to do much. They certainly don't have to be frequent fist pumpers who yell at the rest of the team for 90 minutes. There are plenty of relatively quiet captains who are chosen because of their record and experience on the pitch rather than their ability to fist pump.

Grabban was an obvious choice because of his excellent record last season and because he's probably going to be the most experienced player on the pitch. An excellent example for the other players to look up to.

The manager and coach aren't on the pitch.

If you'd ever played with a proper captain- a vocal leader who can direct those in need of direction and be the managers voice on the pitch, we'd probably not be having this discussion.

Suffice to say Lewis isn't that man.

 

[Bob Fossil]

And I wouldn't worry about passing the armband to an Arter or McKenna ruining his confidence. If he's that fragile he clearly isn't a bloody captain.

 

[Project Zeus]

Lamouchi puts an enquiry in, Grabban thinks about it, hardly a crime, before deciding he doesn't want to go, and suddenly it's accepted as fact that we've accepted a bid and Grabban was desperate to leave

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[Ravi]

The manager and coach aren't on the pitch.

If you'd ever played with a proper captain- a vocal leader who can direct those in need of direction and be the managers voice on the pitch, we'd probably not be having this discussion.

Suffice to say Lewis isn't that man.

And if Zidane and Messi had learned how to shout at people and fist pump maybe they'd have won more trophies...

That's Zinedine Zidane by the way, the one who captained France to a world Cup win.

I trust Sabri Lamouchi or Chris Hughton's judgement far more in these matters than any fan's.

 

[Cureboy]

He’s staying, fine. Hope Hughton gets him on target practice cos he’s forgotten where the goal is.

 

[Bob Fossil]

And if Zidane and Messi had learned how to shout at people and fist pump maybe they'd have won more trophies...

That's Zinedine Zidane by the way, the one who captained France to a world Cup win.

I trust Sabri Lamouchi or Chris Hughton's judgement far more in these matters than any fan's.

Zidane was both vocal and liked to direct his team mates.

Messi is the greatest player that ever lived and inspires through his sheer genius.

Lewis is a 2nd division striker who shouldn't have been made captain for the points I've already made.