Hillsborough Remembrance

[Timothy Pope]

I didn’t want to resurrect old threads but am wary too of raising this subject..

Any idea if there are plans to remember the victims of the Hillsborough Disaster at our FA Cup game vs the poo?

I have absolutely no problem doing either a minute’s silence or applause to recognise that no one should go to a football match and die - and those that died in the cages were all innocents who got there early looking forward to seeing their team play.

What I don’t want to do is recognise the Justice for the 97 campaign. As others who were there that day will know - justice won’t properly come until the folk of Liverpool look inwards


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[football post]

To be honest I think we ought to leave that alone.
If some people disrespect it we'll never hear the last of it.

 

[ScottC]

Dangerous ground. Can't see the club going anywhere near it.

 

[Timothy Pope]

Happy not to do it.

I guess what I wanted to say and didn’t articulate well was that if the club get involved in good intentions of remembering the dead and it gets hijacked by the JFT97 campaign- it won’t end well.
(If someone at the club is reading this - please take note!!)


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[Flaggers]

The best way Hillsborough can be remembered is for all the supporters to turn up on time, sober, with tickets and not give the police any problems or give the police a decision to make.

Like they always Officially do.

 

[thehockleyhustler]

The club need to steer away from this. Let Liverpool wear black armbands if they like but anything which involves supporters will not end well whilst we have the nation watching.

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[HBB]

I'll be honest I see no reason for any remembrance - all that's happening is the two sides are meeting in the same competition but at a different stage, in a different stadium, if it was the anniversary then fair enough but as its not it should be left alone.

 

[Statto]

I'm slightly more sympathetic to Liverpool fans on this one than a lot on here admittedly. But, I don't think it's a good idea.

Even though I think this is the first time the sides have met in the FA Cup since 1989, and is the first time since 1999 that they played at all, it was a long time ago - 33 years next month - and that alone is really more raking up events from the past and a good enough reason not to do it. It's not a significant anniversary and a lot of people who would be at the match either weren't there or were too young (I was only five at the time).

Even before you go into apportioning "blame", which is always difficult to point at a single factor or person and rarely is the case anyway, and accommodating the fact that the 97 people who did die and the many others who were injured in the crush were at the front of the stand, and weren't likely to be either arriving late, drunk, or without tickets, the police should have managed that situation better anyway. Certainly those who were let in by the gate being opened shouldn't have been directed to the tunnel but led to the quieter side pens where there was room for them, they would have no way of knowing what areas of the ground were fuller than others.

But yeah, not a good idea. Too many on here are anti-Liverpool over it, and the people on here I'd expect are more intelligent, respectful and rational than a fair amount of those who go to matches, so the feeling in the stadium is probably too high. It would put the club in a bad light if there was disrespect to anything relating to it on national TV at 6pm on a Sunday.

 

[Trents]

Can we wheel out John Aldridge at half time and let Brian Laws loose on him?

 

[Master Yates]

I thought the whole reason the campaign went on for so long was to ensure that “justice” was done by apportioning blame on to anyone other than LFC fans?

They’ve got that now with the “official” report and the poor bloke who was on life support has even died now too, so let the poor victims rest in peace ffs.

It’s not an anniversary, so no need to do anything for this tie.


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[Flaggers]

Can we wheel out John Aldridge at half time and let Brian Laws loose on him?

If Aldridge has any sense he'll realise he's not welcome in the ground, the city and the county.

 

[Otis Redding]

If Aldridge has any sense he'll realise he's not welcome in the ground, the city and the county.

It should be said that Lawsie has long since settled (to put it diplomatically) his 'issue' with Aldridge.

A door was involved if what I was told is correct.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

As someone who was there that terrible day I'd rather we left well alone. I was sixteen at the time and was never the same after that day.

I still get triggered by certain things and would personally rather not be forced to revisit those memories.

It's been 30+ years now and Forest have always been largely forgotten in the tragedy anyway.

There's no need for us to do anything.

 

[Barry]

Walk out the tunnel, wave at the crowd, toss the coin, pick an end and play football.

Nothing more

 

[Calvin Plummer]

We're all a little guilty tbh..

I think part of our animos is that we never got to grieve, we were victims too and it's legacy lingers for many.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Happy to leave it well alone.

 

[Matt]

I would rather we made the game about the fantastic progress of our football club in the last 12 months than talking about an event from the past, however tragic.

We’ve played them a number of times since then. It’s not a significant anniversary either, IIRC?

 

[Bonfy177]

I was very calm reading this thread trying to be balanced then Aldridge was mentioned, what a piece of work, zero class or humility, even as a 16 year old at the time and a mad Forest fan I wasn’t bothered about winning the re-arranged game at Old Trafford and attended as much out of respect as anything else, but Aldridge……… I can’t put into words what I think of him as a man

 

[alabamared]

Speaking as some one who was there and observed it all unfold.
No please just walk away from this one.

 

[Neurotica]

The club need to steer away from this. Let Liverpool wear black armbands if they like but anything which involves supporters will not end well whilst we have the nation watching.

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The fans need to as well. The last thing the club needs when everything is looking so rosy would be a load of morons singing disgraceful songs. We want to come out of this game (whatever the result) with our reputation enhanced and not a minority of fans completely trashing it.

 

[Otis Redding]

As someone who was there that terrible day I'd rather we left well alone. I was sixteen at the time and was never the same after that day.

I still get triggered by certain things and would personally rather not be forced to revisit those memories.

It's been 30+ years now and Forest have always been largely forgotten in the tragedy anyway.

There's no need for us to do anything.

I too was there that afternoon, and to be brutally honest, to me and my mates with no knowledge of what was actually unfolding before us, it initially just seemed like an inconvenience - "typical f***ing Liverpool fans" being the general consensus in our ignorance.

Obviously, the mood changed drastically on hearing the news on the car radio after.

Since then, in the intervening years everything's been said that needed to be, even the unpalatable part as far as the JFT96 people are concerned.

As such, as you rightly say, the subject should be left well alone next week.

 

[Bonfy177]

Personally I think anyone who was at either or both games in 89 will be respectful and I’d imagine anyone drink fuelled or a little flighty because of the occasion trying to start any distasteful chants will be policed by elder and more sensible Forest fans, only twice as a Forest fan have I ever been upset at moronic behaviour once at Selhurst park against Wimbledon when a group thought it was apt to sing oh Teddy Teddy and a brawl broke out amongst the reds, and once away at Reading about 14 years ago, what I’m trying to highlight is on the whole I think Forest fans are responsible, respectful and a decent bunch.



I didn’t include the time the toilets at no pride park were set ablaze and smashed up following a one nil defeat, in fairness I was double aggravated that day due to be pelted with stones by some little twats behind the away end from the rough ground, if I’d been asked for a light that day I would have found it tough to say no.

 

[eugenboppboppbopp]

Liverpool wouldn’t want any sort of remembrance for this game. They don’t even acknowledge we were there that day

As Barry says, just toss the coin and get on with turning them over


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[Cloughie1975]

The fans need to as well. The last thing the club needs when everything is looking so rosy would be a load of morons singing disgraceful songs. We want to come out of this game (whatever the result) with our reputation enhanced and not a minority of fans completely trashing it.

Indeed,I hope the supporters of Nottingham Forest(and Liverpool)can enjoy the occasion without any needless
trouble next Sunday.
I think we can all learn from the appalling behaviour of the Leicester City fans in the 4th Round-who badly
let themselves and their club down.

 

[Eddie Yates]

A 6pm ko off on a Sunday will result in some stupid behaviour

Forest fans don't like Liverpool & they're not fond of us either

Every Forest nutter (there's plenty) will be out on the piss from midday, I hope things don't get to out of hand but I'm not confident it will all pass without incident