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François Modesto - Technical Director

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
https://www.sofoot.com/francois-modesto-nottingham-forest-est-un-geant-qui-dort-477145.html

You spent your career as a player between Corsica, Monaco and Italy. It does not make it strange to land here in the North of England?

It's true that this is the first time I'm in this kind of environment, but I like it a lot. I did not know Nottingham, except the history of the club, and it's a nice city. It's a city where I felt good from the first day. I arrived in January, I found myself eating alone in restaurants, as my wife and children stayed in Greece not to disrupt their schooling. And the people were super nice, very open. And then, even from a professional point of view, it's very exciting. It's a big club, a giant sleeping, it feels. It's important for a city like Nottingham to have a club in the Premier League, so we'll do everything we can to get there as quickly as possible.

Since January ? Your coming here was however formalized in October ...
In fact, for three years, I work at Olympiakos recruitment. And as President Evángelos Marinákis also bought Nottingham Forest, I work on both clubs."At the end of my career, I realized that being a coach was very difficult. I prefer this position of sports director, I like to situate myself between the management, the coach and the players. Being the link between all that and making decisions. "Since January, I'm shuttling between the two. But this is where I will be most often. At Olympiakos, everything has been done pretty much, it's pretty stable. Whereas here, you have to start all over again. We must do here what we did at Olympiakos. These are two clubs that play different footballs. Olympiakos is offensive, it's possession of the ball. Here, it's the duels, the one-on-one, it's more physical. But if we have one of the players who is not good here, we can send it to the other club to restart it for example. If it interests both coaches of course. This is what we have already done with Bouchalakis and Soudani for example.

How did you end up working on recruiting Olympiakos?
When I finished my contract at Olympiakos, I returned to Bastia to finish my career quietly. But President Marinákis made me sign a pre-contract that when I stopped, I would continue to work with the club by choosing my position with him. It was a huge chance. I have always been crazy about football, and I wanted to stay in this environment. But at the end of my career, I realized that being a coach was very difficult. It takes a lot of patience. It's something I did not feel. I prefer this position of sports director, I like to situate myself between the management, the coach and the players. Being the link between all that and making decisions.

How did you get that very strong relationship that binds you to your president?
It's a special story with him. When he bought the club in 2010, I am the first player he signs. So he trusts me right away. And then three championship titles, two cups, good courses in Europe ... Everything worked, I became a centerpiece of the team and I fully adhered to the project. After, I was surprised by his proposal. Olympiakos is a big club, it could have given the job to a lot of other former players of the club. He is a great businessman in Greece and in the world, I think he is not crazy and he saw something in me that could be good for his club. He has great confidence in me and I am very grateful to him. We have a relationship that goes beyond work. And then he was patient with me because at first I made mistakes too. It's normal, I was sports director at 38 years without experience. But he still trusted me, and today, if I'm here in Nottingham with this project, I owe it to him alone.

Since you arrived in January in Nottingham, Sabri Lamouchi has arrived on the bench and José Anigo has been recruited internationally. It was you who blew those names?
Of course. I made the link with Sabri. I had never worked with him, but I saw what he did in Rennes, how he played his team. And I liked it. José, we met in Greece when he was coach of Levadiakos. Before that, we had just crossed paths. We enjoyed ourselves in Greece, we saw each other from time to time, we drank coffee. And then José has a lot of experience, he stayed for 20 years in the biggest club in France with a lot of pressure at OM. He did a very good job at recruiting. And then, he met the president, it went very well.He helped us bring Brice Samba , Samba Sow, and other players. And since he had Sabri as a player at the time, it makes things easier. We all know each other well, we work together, it saves time at the very beginning of a project.

Some French coaches pointed out that they did not have a network, and that's why they could not export. Do you think that's true?
Already, you have to be competent. It is important. We have chosen Sabri because he is competent. But it's true that the network at the moment in football is very important. That's also why there are so many Portuguese coaches. Not only because they are competent, but also because they communicate very well and are well settled. Mourinho and others have paved the way, and now they are everywhere. They quickly opened abroad, at the right time, even in the staffs at smaller positions. We must be attentive to this and better showcase our coaches and our players.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
part 2

What's different here and what did you know before in your career?
There is a lot of respect from the fans towards the coach, the players and the club as a whole. It's incredible. In France, it's not like that. There, it's really a country of football. Football is born here and it feels. After, I do not criticize France, you can not change the history of a country. Here, at the level of engagement and love of football, it is another level.

It's a football in which you would have blossomed as a player?

It's a football that is very difficult. A lot of commitment, a lot of games and very high intensity. And not just in touch, in the races too, constantly. I think I would have liked it, but I think at first I would have had trouble. Because it's not easy to adapt to it. At any time, the match may change. What I love here is that you can win 2-0 in the 86 th and lose the match 3-2. In the Premier League, and even more in the Championship, they attack all the time. In France, and even in other European championships, when you lose 2-0 and you see the time pass, we say "  good, it's almost over ... Here they are serene until the last second. They know it can be part of a game. Last year, we did 5-5 at Aston Villa, 3-3 at Norwich while we won 3-0, that's what's good. And it is the English players who bring this. They do not doubt. This is what made their strength in the past, and they start to find with Liverpool for example. The 4-3 against Milan, the 4-0 last year against Barça, is their mentality. That's only seen in England. It is the English spirit, the spirit of the clubs, this public that leads you to surpass you.

How do you explain the growing craze around the Championship?
Already because a lot of former big Premier League clubs are present in this championship. So people follow. And it's the best second division championship in the world. At all levels: supporters, organization, players, commitment, coaches. Just seeing Marcelo Bielsa in a second division championship ...

How do you understand the particularities of this championship when you discover it like you?
It's simple. I left alone with my car to see matches of Premier League, Championship and League One to understand this football. Seeing it on TV is fine, but living it on a daily basis is something else."I left alone with my car to watch Premier League, Championship and League One matches to understand this football. Seeing it on TV is fine, but living it on a daily basis is something else. "Here you can go to a match every day. Being on the ground is important. Because you meet people, opposing clubs, mentality. You feel things, you impregnate yourself and then you can ask yourself to choose the players to recruit. It was very important to come six months before, as an observer, to understand what is happening and to adapt. I'm coming to a foreign country, you have to respect that. You must not change everything. I always say that when you are a foreign player, you have to adapt to the country, it is not the country that has to adapt to us. It's the same as a leader now. I have to adapt to the people, the football and the club here, bringing our foreign touch that can perhaps improve some things.

On which points do you want to bring something different?
Foreign players to advance the team tactically, I would say. At the level of commitment and determination, there is nothing to change. We prioritize English players and we take strangers to bring a talent in addition, a player who has this little trick.

Ten years ago, did you see yourself traveling around England in a car like that to look for players?
Never. But I believe a lot in destiny. The first match I did in Ligue 1 with Bastia was against Monaco. I played Monaco behind. My first European Cup match with Monaco is against Olympiakos. And I remember when I was little, I must have been about 10 years old, I had seen an English League Cup final, which Nottingham Forest had won. It was a match that marked me because at the time, few games were broadcast. In addition, when you're young, Nottingham Forest is a name that slams you. And at that time, the finals of the League Cup, I did not see many, it is the Nottingham that I saw, not all those Liverpool, Manchester or I do not know which club.

Your experience as a former player, it helps you in what?
Already, you feel things right when you return to a locker room. You feel the players, the coach, the club staff. It was my strength. You feel the temperature of the locker room after the victories, the defeats. After recruiting, when I was a player, I was already watching all my opponents, from Monday to Friday before the game. I was always taking notes, I was eating video and everything. So, I always liked to be one step ahead. After, the side of the negotiations, of this world, it was a surprise because when you are player, you do not think about all that. It's more where I had to learn on the job and progress. It's not because you've been a good football player that you're going to make a good coach, a good sports director, a good analyst or a good recruiter. It can help you, of course, but when you finish your career, you start a second life again. You must forget your football career, and start a new career, so relearn things.

Before a match, did you have more pressure as a player or now as a leader?
Now ! Widely. (Laughter.) When you're a player, you decide. You are on the ground. At any time, you can change the course of the match in the right or wrong direction. As director, you can not do anything. You do not play, it's not even you who make the team. (Laughs) And that's normal! But you're shaking all week to find yourself helpless when it's really playing. You suffer inside.

Now that you're on the other side of the fence, do you realize the job that some club members were doing, that you did not see as a player?

It's exactly that. I may have been tough sometimes with some leaders. The number of hours of work when you are a leader ... I arrive in the morning at 7:30, I come home in the evening, it is 22h-23h, or midnight. It is necessary to follow the medical, the technical staff, the players, the press, the recruitment, to anticipate many things. Sometimes, you take your car to go to Manchester, you come back in the night, or you sleep at the hotel to leave to see a game of League One ... There is a lot of work. I tell them to the players: "  Enjoy now. "I was a player, I was like them, I arrived in the morning at 9am, I did my training of two or three hours, then massage, my care, my nap, I saw my family. It's normal, huh, it's not a criticism, they have to do that to be successful. But it's cooler. (Laughs.) I was light years away from imagining that the leaders had it all for work.
 
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Sabri Natenagewitch

Guest
Thanks for that - Interesting read. Just a point on trnaslation, "blow those names" would be whispered and "strangers" would be foreigners.
 

Barry

Where's me hammer?
"How do you explain the growing craze around the Championship?

Already because a lot of former big Premier League clubs are present in this championship. So people follow. And it's the best second division championship in the world. At all levels: supporters, organization, players, commitment, coaches. Just seeing Marcelo Bielsa in a second division championship ..."'

Can see someone not liking that answer

Sent from my SM-J415FN using Tapatalk
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion

BryanRoy

Stuart Pearce
So Modesto's assistant is Ed Henderson ie assistant director of football. Pictured on the right here in the McGuane deal.

He was previously the football operations manager and academy secretary.

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His job as assistant director of football

- Direct report to CEO & Director of Football
- Assist in negotiations with third parties (agents, clubs, players)
- Monitor contracts of first team players, including renewals and any triggers
- Assist in finding loan solutions for club players
- Work with the Director of Football on developing the structure of the football staff
- Assist with finalising transfer (paperwork, agent, transfer offer etc)
- Host Agents and Key Opposition Scouts at home matches
- Support the Manager with any off-field issues
- Keep track of loan players
- Produce weekly Football Operation schedules (food, facilities, security, pitch allocation, training schedules etc)
- Assist with recruitment of support staff
- Manage the Training Ground schedule and operation, including general improvements
- Monitor the Academy programme and ensure key players are committed to at earliest opportunity
- Led on the tender for new club travel provider (First Team, Academy, Women & Supporters)
- Explore club cost saving opportunities across football operation departments
- Sourced new supplier for club’s pool of vehicles
- Assist Recruitment and Scouting Department
 
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Liaminho

Guest
Does he also do the washing up? Bloody hell i felt exhausted just reading that.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
No wonder the lad‘s got bags under his eyes.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
From the initial reports about Lamouchi's meeting with EM, in which only Anigo was mentioned, I supposed that Modesto is on his way out. If I understand correctly however everyone was here, including Vrentzos, Modesto and the Monaco prince. And Taylor says there will be no changes in the recruitment team.

Sorry Alf.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
I know people are going to get confused by this but Modesto has done a good job considering he hasn’t been given resources. The only problem is EM is expecting more of him and yes that’s unfair on Modesto I know but that’s what EM wants! So Modesto either finds quality spending 7 mill a year or gets the boot. It sounds like he is staying which is fine but in order for us to be promotion contenders Modesto simply has to do better even though it’s hard.
 

Ravi

Upper Decker
I know people are going to get confused by this but Modesto has done a good job considering he hasn’t been given resources. The only problem is EM is expecting more of him and yes that’s unfair on Modesto I know but that’s what EM wants! So Modesto either finds quality spending 7 mill a year or gets the boot. It sounds like he is staying which is fine but in order for us to be promotion contenders Modesto simply has to do better even though it’s hard.

Are you talking about £7m total spending or £7m transfer fees here? I know you know Emmerson that wage bill is the important determinant of league position rather than transfer fees. There’s a big difference between signing 3 players for £7m total transfer fees who are all on £1.5m a year and 1 player for a £7m transfer fee who’s on £0.75m a year.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
Are you talking about £7m total spending or £7m transfer fees here? I know you know Emmerson that wage bill is the important determinant of league position rather than transfer fees. There’s a big difference between signing 3 players for £7m total transfer fees who are all on £1.5m a year and 1 player for a £7m transfer fee who’s on £0.75m a year.

That’s transfer budget Ravi with the sale of Cash for 12 I imagine. Plus you have to remember departures and people who run out of contract as well.
 

Red bandit

Geoff Thomas
Where did the £7 million figure come from?

I assumed it was only a made up figure by Emerson to illustrate a point.

It’s funny how these things take on a life of their own and people run away with them.
 

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
English football historically produced excellent players in the days of economic depression and when the working class were an underclass living in squalor.
Youngsters turned to football as a way of getting out of the slums.
With the economic disaster that results from Covid (and Tory Government policies)perhaps we will see a new generation of great English players emerging from the devastation.
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
TL:DR - Modesto might find it difficult to stick to his MO when looking for players for Forest now days because of the new work permit rules.


Just had a bit of a shower thought regarding Modesto and the new work permit rules... His speciality seems to be finding talent from the lower leagues in France but my understanding of the new rules means signing a player from that division for Forest is almost impossible now... For starters we are no longer allowed to sign any overseas player who is under 18 anymore. Secondly, the French Ligue 2 is considered a band 4 League under the new rules, that means playing for a team in that division is worth an automatic 6 points towards a work permit, a player has to play 90-100% of the available minutes for a club to get a further 6 work permit points (80-89% gets 5 points and so on) and then that team has to win their league for the player to get another 3 points. Those clubs aren't in continental competitions and it's unlikely the players from that league are playing international football, so I think every other avenue to get work permit points are closed, meaning a player would only be able to score a maximum of 15 points and that would only be if their club won the division, the required number of points to get a work permit is 15 so it's very unlikely. For example that striker we were supposedly targeting last Jan, Ibrahim Sissoko, would not get a work permit under the new system.

Just as a side point if we wanted to sign players from Olympiacos going forward (assuming I've got my head around these rules properly) ; Greek League is band 4 (6 points), Olympiacos usually win the league (3 points), they usually qualify for the group stages of the Champions League (5 points) so the player would need to pick one extra point up and to do that they'd need to either play in 40-49% of Olympiacos' domestic minutes in the 12 months before the transfer or 30-39% of their Champions League matches. The only thing I'm unsure on is what happens if Olympiacos drop from the group stages of the Champions League into the last 32 of the Europa League, not sure if the points stack or they just take the highest score.

Difficult to properly get your head around so I'm not 100% on what I've posted there but anyway I got my info from here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/worldf...st-brexit-english-clubs-efl-libertadores/amp/
 

Harry1982

Grenville Morris
TL:DR - Modesto might find it difficult to stick to his MO when looking for players for Forest now days because of the new work permit rules.


Just had a bit of a shower thought regarding Modesto and the new work permit rules... His speciality seems to be finding talent from the lower leagues in France but my understanding of the new rules means signing a player from that division for Forest is almost impossible now... For starters we are no longer allowed to sign any overseas player who is under 18 anymore. Secondly, the French Ligue 2 is considered a band 4 League under the new rules, that means playing for a team in that division is worth an automatic 6 points towards a work permit, a player has to play 90-100% of the available minutes for a club to get a further 6 work permit points (80-89% gets 5 points and so on) and then that team has to win their league for the player to get another 3 points. Those clubs aren't in continental competitions and it's unlikely the players from that league are playing international football, so I think every other avenue to get work permit points are closed, meaning a player would only be able to score a maximum of 15 points and that would only be if their club won the division, the required number of points to get a work permit is 15 so it's very unlikely. For example that striker we were supposedly targeting last Jan, Ibrahim Sissoko, would not get a work permit under the new system.

Just as a side point if we wanted to sign players from Olympiacos going forward (assuming I've got my head around these rules properly) ; Greek League is band 4 (6 points), Olympiacos usually win the league (3 points), they usually qualify for the group stages of the Champions League (5 points) so the player would need to pick one extra point up and to do that they'd need to either play in 40-49% of Olympiacos' domestic minutes in the 12 months before the transfer or 30-39% of their Champions League matches. The only thing I'm unsure on is what happens if Olympiacos drop from the group stages of the Champions League into the last 32 of the Europa League, not sure if the points stack or they just take the highest score.

Difficult to properly get your head around so I'm not 100% on what I've posted there but anyway I got my info from here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/worldf...st-brexit-english-clubs-efl-libertadores/amp/

If we look at it like that, having some of the talent we have will be invaluable going forward. In no way will anyone but Premier league clubs be able to buy anyone from overseas. But also it will inflate the price of lower league talent. Can see the Peterborough cashing in on their conveyor belt of strikers
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
TL:DR - Modesto might find it difficult to stick to his MO when looking for players for Forest now days because of the new work permit rules.


Just had a bit of a shower thought regarding Modesto and the new work permit rules... His speciality seems to be finding talent from the lower leagues in France but my understanding of the new rules means signing a player from that division for Forest is almost impossible now... For starters we are no longer allowed to sign any overseas player who is under 18 anymore. Secondly, the French Ligue 2 is considered a band 4 League under the new rules, that means playing for a team in that division is worth an automatic 6 points towards a work permit, a player has to play 90-100% of the available minutes for a club to get a further 6 work permit points (80-89% gets 5 points and so on) and then that team has to win their league for the player to get another 3 points. Those clubs aren't in continental competitions and it's unlikely the players from that league are playing international football, so I think every other avenue to get work permit points are closed, meaning a player would only be able to score a maximum of 15 points and that would only be if their club won the division, the required number of points to get a work permit is 15 so it's very unlikely. For example that striker we were supposedly targeting last Jan, Ibrahim Sissoko, would not get a work permit under the new system.

Just as a side point if we wanted to sign players from Olympiacos going forward (assuming I've got my head around these rules properly) ; Greek League is band 4 (6 points), Olympiacos usually win the league (3 points), they usually qualify for the group stages of the Champions League (5 points) so the player would need to pick one extra point up and to do that they'd need to either play in 40-49% of Olympiacos' domestic minutes in the 12 months before the transfer or 30-39% of their Champions League matches. The only thing I'm unsure on is what happens if Olympiacos drop from the group stages of the Champions League into the last 32 of the Europa League, not sure if the points stack or they just take the highest score.

Difficult to properly get your head around so I'm not 100% on what I've posted there but anyway I got my info from here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/worldf...st-brexit-english-clubs-efl-libertadores/amp/

To put this into a simpler perspective:

Under these rules, Forest would have been unable to sign Guy Moussi and Radoslaw Makewski, and it might have been a stretch to get João Carvalho because (if my maths is correct) he’d not played enough matches.
 
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