Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It was reported by David Ornstein from the Athletic and also by Talksport hours before the official statement was released.
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Financial Fair Play (FFP)
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Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
David Ornstein from the Athletic posted a tweet saying no points back for Forest about an hour or so before it was officially announced
Rigler
Jack Burkitt
Welcome to the internet.......
Surely Forest were told of the result prior to the 'official' announcement. Either way, it was only an hour or so, it is nearly impossible to fully contain information where there are many people and parties involved.
There is no transfer spend cap in League one. Birmingham City can go out and buy Mbappe, Kane and Haaland if they want however they do have a % of revenue spend on wages cap which would hurt them. I am. not sure how the ruling works and how much allocation PSR allows for League 1
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
It might have been a few hours but either way I think it's a non-issue, the club were probably told at the same time of the leak as you say, it's not like it got leaked days beforehand
I agree, for all we know the leak could have come form within Forest LOL
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Well yeah. Probably Joe Worrall’s brother
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It's very possible that Forest gave Ornstein the heads up in the absence of us releasing a statement in return for a favourable article in the near future.
Costanillas
First Team Squad
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Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
Christ, who wrote that? The first sentence looks like something I'd type after ten beers.Had a skim of the report and honestly CBA to read it all properly. This made me laugh though:
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In other words, don’t ever hope for any consistency or try and appeal against precedent in the future, we absolutely reserve the right to continue to make this up as we go along.
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Lady Penelope
First Team Squad
I am not at all impressed with the way the EPL conduct matters. I see the wisdom in having a set of financial rules that is designed to stop rogue owners running clubs into the dust. Unfortunately the present set of regulations does have other consequences, whether unintended or not, the Sky Six hold the cards. However, at some point after Wembley a conversation like this took place .....
EFL Congratulations on your promotion to the Premier League.
NFFC Thank you.
EFL Now there are things you have to have in place. Some you might already have but since it's been 23 years since you were last here, please note the following: there are minimum standards to do with floodlights, TV gallery, press facilities, VAR, and much more.
NFFC Understood. Where we need to bring it up to date we will do so.
EPL OK then there are the financial regulations.
NFFC Yes, got that. Understood and agreed.
EPL OK, sign here please then here's your cheque.
Either NFFC can't read, can't count or tried to push the boundaries. Either way, I am not at all impressed with the club. Twenty three years outside the top flight and they have stupidly put it at risk.
Looking ahead, the EPL are hopefully learning about how their regulations favour some over others, and how their PR is lacking so that they are perceived as bent. NFFC are hopefully learning that rights and responsibilities go together.
I am sure that most of the Premier League teams would much prefer the likes of Forest, Leeds and so on in there. The EPL too will be mindful of the global reach (and therefore the TV money) of Forest, Leeds etc over other teams currently in the EPL, so I don't subscribe to the view that they are out to get us and to get us out, however petulantly the club behaves. The rules are far from perfect, but we signed up to them and that is how the world works.
Next season, hopefully as a PL club, let there be no messing, no wasting money on expensive loans who don't play, no buggering about by chopping and changing key personnel behind the scenes, no more PR nonsense about 'announcements about announcements', and just win some games and win them with a bit of style. All of that would feel like progress, like we are growing up as an EPL club, like we mean business.
I'd better go and do some work now .....
EFL Congratulations on your promotion to the Premier League.
NFFC Thank you.
EFL Now there are things you have to have in place. Some you might already have but since it's been 23 years since you were last here, please note the following: there are minimum standards to do with floodlights, TV gallery, press facilities, VAR, and much more.
NFFC Understood. Where we need to bring it up to date we will do so.
EPL OK then there are the financial regulations.
NFFC Yes, got that. Understood and agreed.
EPL OK, sign here please then here's your cheque.
Either NFFC can't read, can't count or tried to push the boundaries. Either way, I am not at all impressed with the club. Twenty three years outside the top flight and they have stupidly put it at risk.
Looking ahead, the EPL are hopefully learning about how their regulations favour some over others, and how their PR is lacking so that they are perceived as bent. NFFC are hopefully learning that rights and responsibilities go together.
I am sure that most of the Premier League teams would much prefer the likes of Forest, Leeds and so on in there. The EPL too will be mindful of the global reach (and therefore the TV money) of Forest, Leeds etc over other teams currently in the EPL, so I don't subscribe to the view that they are out to get us and to get us out, however petulantly the club behaves. The rules are far from perfect, but we signed up to them and that is how the world works.
Next season, hopefully as a PL club, let there be no messing, no wasting money on expensive loans who don't play, no buggering about by chopping and changing key personnel behind the scenes, no more PR nonsense about 'announcements about announcements', and just win some games and win them with a bit of style. All of that would feel like progress, like we are growing up as an EPL club, like we mean business.
I'd better go and do some work now .....
HBB
Jack Burkitt
Again with my ex-journo hat on - It's standard practice for organisations to release statements like this early to media outlets on an embargoed basis - the quid pro quo being "we'll let you know early so when the embargo deadline passes you can publish more substantial reports but don't break the news itself before the appointed time". This was fine in the old days but of course the internet has blown this wide open so embargo periods are much shorter than in days gone by.
For your coverage you'd had/have to usually get info for your piece by talking to an interested party for their comment for reaction, technically this third party are not covered by the embargo but you'd have a gentlemen's agreement for that person to not phone their mate once they've given their quote or reaction - especially if it can be traced back to you/your organisation as that would risk the original organisation no longer giving you embargoed info... but its all gone to buggery now so if Orstein released something an hour before its almost certain that the PL didn't release the info about the points until about that time.
For your coverage you'd had/have to usually get info for your piece by talking to an interested party for their comment for reaction, technically this third party are not covered by the embargo but you'd have a gentlemen's agreement for that person to not phone their mate once they've given their quote or reaction - especially if it can be traced back to you/your organisation as that would risk the original organisation no longer giving you embargoed info... but its all gone to buggery now so if Orstein released something an hour before its almost certain that the PL didn't release the info about the points until about that time.
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Cureboy
Viv Anderson
So the rules were made to avoid a Portsmouth bankruptcy scenario and we held out for more money for our star player, secured more money and got punished...hmmm. Good one Premier League. What a bunch of c***s.
Quntib Hollox
Jack Armstrong
They couldn’t even spell Marinakis correctly so what faith can you put in the rest of it?
„Big“ Evangelos is too busy kicking f*** out of his television at the moment to make a public statement.
Dirk Furtull
John Robertson
Oh well, at least Nuno can stop whinging on about not knowing the outcome and actually concentrate on where it matters, on the pitch.
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I suppose the argument is then that would result in some Championship clubs gambling on promotion (even more than they do already) knowing they could go 'hell for leather' in the EFL and if they go up then the PL money will just wipe out any problems. If they didn't succeed it might result in some clubs going under.
To be honest it's all a mess. I understand the need for some sort of system to regulate the money in the game as it's ludicrous frankly and if nothing was in place Newcastle could just get a front 3 of Mbappe/Haaland/Kane and stick them all £5m a week.
But there needs to be something more even for promoted clubs. Surely the 3 year period should just begin there and then as comparing financials in the Championship and the Premier League is like chalk and cheese. Ipswich might struggle as a result of this next season although to be fair they're coming up with a much more settled squad than ours was.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I’m worried our top talent might get Hoovered up in the summer.
HBB
Jack Burkitt
Technically yes a break of embargo but an embargo isn't a legal device, its just a request really. And, no, no real repercussions any more - as I said previously you could be taken of the distribution list for embargoed materials but that was in the old days when it was much harder to get news out early (radio only, really) and it was easier to trace back to someone/an organisation that had broken the embargo. Now with the Wild West that is the internet and being able to break with a single tweet its impossible.
While I would expect Forest to know at the earliest date as they were a party in the appeal, the release to the "media" will almost certainly have happened at the time of the first reports breaking by twitter etc.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
This Bepe is continuing the long line of good elsewhere, rubbish here theme. Did he serve any purpose in the end? We only got 2 points less due to complying with the Premier league, nothing he did.
I'd be checking to see if he's a Mendez client?
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Shearstone
Misses the champ
Well the commissions view is that had we complied from the beginning we wouldn't have had to sell Johnson so it's irrelevant when we sold him.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
It seems utterly bizarre that teams are given parachute payments for adjustment after being relegated but they won't allow an an accounting adjustment to the permitted losses for the accounting period when you get promoted.
Rosie
Viv Anderson
Yes the points were earned on the pitch, but my point (which I wasn’t 100% clear about -apologies) was that we stay up DESPITE their deduction; and if that p****s off the Premier League, so much the better.