Financial Fair Play (FFP)

[Redemption]

On his Price of Football Podcast, out today, Maguire said it had "filtered out to them" that there is a 'accept the reduced penalty for no appeal.'

But let's say the amount is 6 reduced to 4, do you day no, let's appeal to go for a bigger reduction- assuming KDMKC can see a route.

Take it or appeal it?

 

[Red-footed Booby]

What time is the announcement being made? Does anyone know?

“Early this week” is the latest I’ve seen. Might not even be today

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

Everton's 2nd hearing starts this week probably be Thursday and Friday

Just been on the scouse's forum to find out.
They think the hearing will be this week and outcome next week.
Apparently - the EPL wants everything sorted and agreed before the next round of matched following the International break.
Sounds like a plan - but will never happen

 

[Lefkasman]

Can't someone go and knock on their door and say, "Oi, we ain't playing your silly f***ing games anymore, do what you like cos we ain't bothered". Not forgetting to give them the middle finger and show them your arse as you walk out.

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[Monkman]

On his Price of Football Podcast, out today, Maguire said it had "filtered out to them" that there is a 'accept the reduced penalty for no appeal.'

But let's say the amount is 6 reduced to 4, do you day no, let's appeal to go for a bigger reduction- assuming KDMKC can see a route.

Take it or appeal it?

It's a very difficult choice, but if forced I'd say take it. Puts us just one point from safety with 9 games to go, and more importantly ends all the uncertainty that I feel sure is part of our current poor run.

 

[UnFrustratedRed]

“Early this week” is the latest I’ve seen. Might not even be today

f*** me!!

 

[Cloughie1975]

On his Price of Football Podcast, out today, Maguire said it had "filtered out to them" that there is a 'accept the reduced penalty for no appeal.'

But let's say the amount is 6 reduced to 4, do you day no, let's appeal to go for a bigger reduction- assuming KDMKC can see a route.

Take it or appeal it?

I think this will be the case.
We need to take De Marco’s advice-if the deduction is realistic (say 3 or at a maximum 4) my
gut feeling is to move on so that the players can focus fully on the job in hand.I think the
supporters might also up the volume a bit if the uncertainty is removed.

 

[RedRobbo]

Yep
4 points the limit for me
Any more than 4 - appeal the hell out of it

 

[Project Zeus]

I wonder if they even know the decision themselves yet

Incredible how incoherent the organisation of this billion pound industry is.


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[Monkman]

If you turn down 4 and appeal, what are the chances a successful appeal gets you anything better than a 3-point deduction reduction? Pretty slim I'd say. More likely you'd appeal and get the 4-point deduction at best anyway, plus weeks more of uncertainty.

 

[DanR]

What time is the announcement being made? Does anyone know?

Waiting for the bald man to get to the car park first.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

It's a very difficult choice, but if forced I'd say take it. Puts us just one point from safety with 9 games to go, and more importantly ends all the uncertainty that I feel sure is part of our current poor run.

I agree.

Focuses minds and gets us ready for the Palace game. Chances are we'll be back out of the relegation zone by end of the weekend.

 

[David!]

Take 4 points! Appeal if it's more.
If we don't do 2 points better than Luton from now til the end of the season, given their run in, we deserve to go down. Maybe we can play a little better without this hanging around. Maybe if it's "only" 4 points, it will fire luton up. Just take the punishment and end the what ifs.

 

[Cloughie1975]

I'm just ignoring it all and thinking back 46 years to the day I first saw the Reds at Wembley. Whatever will be , will be ............

My favourite Forest memory-seeing Brian Clough lead the team out at Wembley for the
first time.

 

[RedRobbo]

We

My favourite Forest memory-seeing Brian Clough lead the team out at Wembley for the
first time.

Well I was at both Munich & Madrid - but nothing beats that Wembley play off win for me.

 

[coops89]

Anything less than 4 and the Premier League will appeal

 

[Evans007]

Surely we will appeal regardless of the sanction? Can't just say "move on" when we could conceivably get relegated by 1 or 2 points.

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[Monkman]

The question is "6 points with a right to appeal" or "4 points with no right to appeal". I'd go the latter.

 

[chaospunx]

They can't publicly take away our right to appeal privately is a different matter we could agree then appeal anyway but I'm not sure we would get another refereeing decision again this season not that we get many anyway.
Personally if it 4 I'd accept and galvanise the team

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

The question is "6 points with a right to appeal" or "4 points with no right to appeal". I'd go the latter.

The other way to look at this is that if it is 4 points then it basically means to have secured survival over a season we would have been OK with fewer points than we got last season (assuming Luton end up on around 30).

So, the points deduction has very little impact on our season really. Not compared to terrible refereering decisions, our inability to defend set pieces, throwing away leads, player mistakes, player attritition, the management fiasco etc.

If we take 4 point deduction then get relegated by 4 points or fewer I don't want to see any complaints about FFP.

Let's just take the punishment and get on with not being shit.

 

[Cloughie1975]

We

Well I was at both Munich & Madrid - but nothing beats that Wembley play off win for me.

I went to Munich and Madrid too-but nothing beats the first trip to Wembley for me.Clough was
the biggest name in football at the time.

 

[alabamared]

I went to Munich and Madrid too-but nothing beats the first trip to Wembley for me.Clough was
the biggest name in football at the time.

Iwent to Munich and nothing has beaten that since and I don't think it ever will.

 

[Rubics]

Wasn’t Everton’s deduction announced about 4pm? got to give sky something to talk about this evening?

 

[Jah]

Can our relegation rivals appeal if they think any decision is too lenient?

 

[Oi Arsenal! We want our shirts back]

I know that it’s irrelevant to today’s situation but surely the appropriate sanction for breaking FFP is a transfer embargo rather than a points deduction. The punishment relates directly to the offence.