European Super League

[Viktor]

American Football is the only one which is still exclusive imo.

I'd be willing to bet that baseball is played by as many people over the world as Cricket. It's massive in Asia (well, Japan) and South America. It'll be an Olympic sport soon, just like Ice Hockey.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

American Football is the only one which is still exclusive imo.

I'd be willing to bet that baseball is played by as many people over the world as Cricket. It's massive in Asia (well, Japan) and South America. It'll be an Olympic sport soon, just like Ice Hockey.

Given India's national sport is cricket then I'd be inclined to disagree.

Baseball really only has traction in USA and Japan. There may be some players from countries like Mexico, Puetro Rico, Cuba and Venezuela but it's not really a thing where the bulk of the South American population is.

 

[Viktor]

Given India's national sport is cricket then I'd be inclined to disagree.

Baseball really only has traction in USA and Japan. There may be some players from countries like Mexico, Puetro Rico, Cuba and Venezuela but it's not really a thing where the bulk of the South American population is.

That's not impression I get from South America, Little League is pretty big.

Fair enough on India's role, but cricket is bobbins so who cares.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

American sports for all there franchise moving and 'home' matches played overseas still manage to have a salary cap that isn't thrown out by the courts. You can't confidently predict who will make the best six teams over the next five years or so. Our self proclaimed best 'football competition' in the world however...

 

[Strummer]

But that works in American sports because their recruitment is constrained by the draft system and the free-agency that follows it.

Without similar, any European Super League will go the same way as the Premier League - the best players end up at the clubs with most money.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

They still manage to put a restriction on how much a sports club pays its playing staff. Something Jimmy Hill had thrown out here in the sixties.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

If you play Fantasy Football everybody gets 100 million maximum to spend. If you got 100 million, and your mate got 800 million it wouldn't be a contest and victory would be hollow.

The top leagues in Europe are in a sense a bit like F1. The driver would be coach, the manufacturer would be the owners.

You can be the best driver/coach but be uncompetitive when your manufacturer/owner isn't competitive. The only thing you can do to change that is move to one of the few competitive teams/clubs with money.

To me, somebody who doesn't like cars, it seems like motor racing would be more interesting and more competitive if they all drove the same car. But I understand that if you do like cars, there's lots of interest in the constructor's championship.

There's nobody watching football because they love the business championship side to the game - fans who mostly love the business deals. But that's how the domestic competitions are all decided anyway.

Not in the North American sports to anything like the same extent.

 

[valspoodle]

American sports work because it's a closed system, operating within a small world bounded by colleges/universities and professional teams. Like most things American (meaning the USA, of course) they don't care about anything outside their borders in sport unless it happens in Olympic year so they can proclaim World domination.

 

[Rzar]

BREAKING: @FIFAcom president Gianni Infantino says any players involved in a European Super League would be banned from playing international football #SSN

 

[Eddie Yates]

BREAKING: @FIFAcom president Gianni Infantino says any players involved in a European Super League would be banned from playing international football #SSN

Greedy little twats won’t give a toss

 

[Eddie Yates]

American sports = shit

European superleague = shit

Champions league = shit

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Greater motivation for the CL clubs

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

https://youtu.be/WuDwUnhwPAk

 

[valspoodle]

There seems to be a lot more talk about the idea this time than there has been before. So perhaps it's gaining traction.

At the moment the powers-that-be are massing against it, but only so that they can give themselves time to think of a way of getting themselves onto the gravy train and not disturb the rest of football too much.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

They still manage to put a restriction on how much a sports club pays its playing staff. Something Jimmy Hill had thrown out here in the sixties.

Salary cap and maximum wage are different. There's no limit to What you can pay one person in the NFL but you have a budget for the team.

The maximum wage was rightly removed, it should have been replaced by a salary cap but you'd need every FA to implement the same system.

Greed is the problem, it's what FFP should have been about, not the established clubs pulling the ladder up.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Salary cap and maximum wage are different. There's no limit to What you can pay one person in the NFL but you have a budget for the team.

The maximum wage was rightly removed, it should have been replaced by a salary cap but you'd need every FA to implement the same system.

Greed is the problem, it's what FFP should have been about, not the established clubs pulling the ladder up.

Can a salary cap not in some way be thrown out in European courts?

I never understand when sporting competition rules get overturned in courts. It must be against some law someqhere to prevent an employee from turnung up at their place of employment for week for handling a football.

What I do know is the salary cap is one way North American sporting competition is better than European sporting competition.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

Were it still like the 70s and 80s, Southampton would have been competitive in everything in recent years. They've had enough good players and manager's for that. Back then, that was how club's progressed- by having sports people excelling at their sport .

Some of the players and managers they've had have been competiting for the top prizes. But they had to leave and join a money league club, mostly Liverpool or Spurs, to do it. Southampton may well now go down with a couple of 8th places and League Cup Final as the best achievements of that era.

 

[redforest]

The most irritating thing here is that these so-called „super clubs“ have mostly bought their success, and their popularity comes from progress through their own domestic leagues.

As ever, it’s all about money. Which means it will probably happen, sooner rather than later.

And I doubt whether those domestic Associations will just stop picking the best players in the world for their national squads.

Spurs are going to be well pissed off, so that’s one plus point.

The real loser will be football fans. As usual.

Why would Spurs be pissed off - they would be odds on to win the premier league each year if the other 5 pissed off.

 

[Account Deleted]

Why would Spurs be pissed off - they would be odds on to win the premier league each year if the other 5 pissed off.

Perhaps because they deludedly think they've bridged the top 5, especially with their super-dooper new stadium.

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[Senior Flange Technician]

Can a salary cap not in some way be thrown out in European courts?

I never understand when sporting competition rules get overturned in courts. It must be against some law someqhere to prevent an employee from turnung up at their place of employment for week for handling a football.

What I do know is the salary cap is one way North American sporting competition is better than European sporting competition.

It wouldn't work anyway as you'd need everyone to agree. Most the "laws" are because someone ain't happy. Imagine telling Man City, PSG, Madrid etc they have the same to spend as Burnley. Although no one has to hit the limit, it's bring thier spending down to such a level that more clubs can compete for more top talent.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Also, a salary cap isn't affecting free trade or the ability to earn or work. It just means teams wouldn't have 30+ man, millionaire squads. The talent would get spread out a bit more but they'd still play.

 

[Francis Benali (on loan)]

It wouldn't work anyway as you'd need everyone to agree. Most the "laws" are because someone ain't happy. Imagine telling Man City, PSG, Madrid etc they have the same to spend as Burnley. Although no one has to hit the limit, it's bring thier spending down to such a level that more clubs can compete for more top talent.

I know it won't work now for reason you say. It's works in the US because it's been there for as long as I've known. And global brands like the Yankees and Lakers aren't too big for it.

And it's one way big American sports leagues are better than ours.

 

[valspoodle]

I know it won't work now for reason you say. It's works in the US because it's been there for as long as I've known. And global brands like the Yankees and Lakers aren't too big for it.

And it's one way big American sports leagues are better than ours.

'Different', not 'better'.

 

[Flaggers]

Bump.

Court rules that FIFA and UEFA can't stand in the way of setting up the superleague.

 

[Flaggers]

As far as I'm concerned, as long as there's a ruling that says WHEN the english clubs come crawling back to the Premier League in 3 years time, they get to start again at tier 9, then for me the "big 6" can all f*** off right now. Today.