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Financial Fair Play (FFP)

Bobby The Brain

Bobby The Brain

Weasel
HappyHappyJoyJoy said:
Whats the jist?
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Quite a few points discussed.

- They like the statement we put out, just the right balance of respect and getting our point across.
- Crazy that if we appeal the verdict could come after the last game of the season.
- Completely unfair that we get penalised (£61 allowable loss) just because we hadn't been in the PL for years.
- Makes no sense the seasons aren't aligned with accounting periods.
- Dogs using door handles (not related to us 🤣)

They're pretty sympathetic to be honest.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
JohhnyM said:
I feel like I'm swimming against the tide of opinion on here, but my attitude is well played EM!

The playing field is clearly not level, so from me it's kudos and gratitude to him for giving it his all to keep us up.

Without that we would've struggled to get past 11 points last season, but instead we may yet stay up this season.

He took a calculated risk, and I would've done the same.

The Championship is just a shitty comfort zone for has beens and wannabes and I'd rather never return.

8 points they wanted - to what end other than to make us pay with relegation? Get the appeal in and make life as hard for the closed-shop, two-faced bastards as we can.

And I think the club statement is the best thing I've ever read on our website.
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100% agree - power to the Big man
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

First Team Squad
Red Ray's Redlist said:
Anyone who thinks we should just accept the penalty and just get on with it is deluded. Until we know what is going on with Everton's charges and what they will do we'd be crazy to decide one way or the other.

It's obviously not right that Everton will be able to appeal after our deadline is up. We should conditionally appeal based on whatever Everton decide or we run the risk that they get any points penalty reduced on a basis that would also cover us.

4 points is worse than I hoped and better than I feared. If Everton get similar I'd take the penalty but if they get less we have to appeal, especially with the comment in the verdict about a second offence.
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We have to appeal - even if only as a holding tactic until we know what happens to Everton.
We can always withdraw our appeal at a later date
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Bobby The Brain said:
Quite a few points discussed.

- They like the statement we put out, just the right balance of respect and getting our point across.
- Crazy that if we appeal the verdict could come after the last game of the season.
- Completely unfair that we get penalised (£61 allowable loss) just because we hadn't been in the PL for years.
- Makes no sense the seasons aren't aligned with accounting periods.
- Dogs using door handles (not related to us 🤣)

They're pretty sympathetic to be honest.
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I want to know about the dogs and doorhandles bit
 
Quntib Hollox

Quntib Hollox

Jack Armstrong
Irish Wolf said:
I'm still a bit stunned at the Premier League wanting an 8 point deduction. Merely 2 less than Portsmouth got for twice entering administration.

Maybe we're not so paranoid about those dodgy ref/var decisions this year.
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It’s been obvious to us all season that the PL are after their pound of flesh either off the pitch and certainly on it. I don’t know the reasons but I’m convinced it’s real.
If this doesn’t galvanise everyone connected with NFFC to shove it up them by rallying round and getting the necessary points we need on the pitch nothing ever will.
I love the sentiments of the club statement but now we need to focus on the pitch and let it go.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Lefkasman said:
I got accused of being a communist at one place I worked. I was f***ing gobsmacked comrade I can tell you.
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Such unfounded accusations are often bandied-about by capitalist-imperialist running dogs who have nothing to offer other than seizing the capital that should rightly belong to the workers, Comrade.

Don‘t worry, I have sworn on a picture of the dear and departed Comrade Lenin that, come the revolution, they will be the first ones up against the wall.
 
Bobby The Brain

Bobby The Brain

Weasel
Quntib Hollox said:
It’s been obvious to us all season that the PL are after their pound of flesh either off the pitch and certainly on it. I don’t know the reasons but I’m convinced it’s real.
If this doesn’t galvanise everyone connected with NFFC to shove it up them by rallying round and getting the necessary points we need on the pitch nothing ever will.
I love the sentiments of the club statement but now we need to focus on the pitch and let it go.
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I don't think it's because we're who we are, just who we're not.
 
Chappers85

Chappers85

Can't Play Left-Back
Bobby The Brain said:
Quite a few points discussed.

- They like the statement we put out, just the right balance of respect and getting our point across.
- Crazy that if we appeal the verdict could come after the last game of the season.
- Completely unfair that we get penalised (£61 allowable loss) just because we hadn't been in the PL for years.
- Makes no sense the seasons aren't aligned with accounting periods.
- Dogs using door handles (not related to us 🤣)

They're pretty sympathetic to be honest.
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My in-laws' red setter is a bastard for that. Like a bloody Velociraptor!
 
Malwood

Malwood

Geoff Thomas
Alf-engelos Mindminackers said:
That is getting behind the team.

The owner and his son need to be removed from anything football related, and we need to go back to being run how we were under Murphy, else where only going to end up in another mess sooner or later.

They're not fit for purpose when it comes to running a British upper league football club. They are fine to fund one, I'll happily take their money, but watching them claw for glory in the spotlight with their sad attempt to run us is like watching some round 1 X-factor reject yank the microphone off Bruce Dickinson and trying to sing Aces High mid-concert.
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This is the most entitled thing I've ever read.
 
Redemption

Redemption

One less gobshite...
ubik said:
Are you for real?

We had to sign loads of players when we came up. We also sold players.

We've just about cleared out the dead wood, but may still be paying wages to Harry Arter.

Most of our signings have contributed, but qwe still haven't managed to build a true team out of them. That's another story.
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I'm real enough.

You mentioned the scatter gun approach and offered applause for 2 players.

Since the promotion, we've signed 40+ players. I was asking if you applauded any of the others.

But you might want to reflect on why we had no players when we got promoted?

Previous seasons of the scatter gun approach had left us running on the border of FFP infringement
 
Grenville 1898

Grenville 1898

Nicolás Domínguez - King of the Press
A football fable...

Of the Commandments of the Premier League, the most important is, "All clubs are equal."

Smaller clubs in the Premier League work hard, dreaming of european football glory. Despite their hardships at the lower end of the league, smaller clubs are punished by the Premier League Commission with point deductions who retort that they are better off than being in the Championship. There is a continual bleating by the dominant clubs and their fans of "Big six clubs good, newly-promoted clubs bad".

The Commandments are abridged to just one phrase: "All clubs are equal, but some clubs are more equal than others". The decree is painted in large letters on one side of the stadiums of Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea.

The maxim, "Big six clubs good, newly-promoted clubs bad" is simarly changed to "Big six clubs good, super league better".

The Premier League and the big six clubs flatter and praise each other while cheating at the game.

The smaller clubs look on, feeling that they and the fans should have a say in football, because they still believe that "Football belongs to everybody".
 
Bobby The Brain

Bobby The Brain

Weasel
Grenville 1898 said:
A football fable...

Of the Commandments of the Premier League, the most important is, "All clubs are equal."

Smaller clubs in the Premier League work hard, dreaming of european football glory. Despite their hardships at the lower end of the league, smaller clubs are punished by the Premier League Commission with point deductions who retort that they are better off than being in the Championship. There is a continual bleating by the dominant clubs and their fans of "Big six clubs good, newly-promoted clubs bad".

The Commandments are abridged to just one phrase: "All clubs are equal, but some clubs are more equal than others". The decree is painted in large letters on one side of the stadiums of Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea.

The maxim, "Big six clubs good, newly-promoted clubs bad" is simarly changed to "Big six clubs good, super league better".

The Premier League and the big six clubs flatter and praise each other while cheating at the game.

The smaller clubs look on, feeling that they and the fans should have a say in football, because they still believe that "Football belongs to everybody".
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You've pretty much just described Stalin's Soviet Union (y)
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
We are 1 point below Lutun now.
We could have been 2 points ahead of them.
At least with 9 games left if we are better than Luton we have a good chance of going above them to safety.
Are we actually better than Luton is the big question.
 
Erik

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
Tiff said:
Yes, could give more if I really wanted to.

I’m not the one giving two and saying that is what is happening.


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Well please don't call me out then.

Happy to take on board what they might be.

May even change my mind. Unlikely granted, but I'm open to them. You never know until you try. :)
 
Chappers85

Chappers85

Can't Play Left-Back
Grenville 1898 said:
A football fable...

Of the Commandments of the Premier League, the most important is, "All clubs are equal."

Smaller clubs in the Premier League work hard, dreaming of european football glory. Despite their hardships at the lower end of the league, smaller clubs are punished by the Premier League Commission with point deductions who retort that they are better off than being in the Championship. There is a continual bleating by the dominant clubs and their fans of "Big six clubs good, newly-promoted clubs bad".

The Commandments are abridged to just one phrase: "All clubs are equal, but some clubs are more equal than others". The decree is painted in large letters on one side of the stadiums of Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham Hotspur and Chelsea.

The maxim, "Big six clubs good, newly-promoted clubs bad" is simarly changed to "Big six clubs good, super league better".

The Premier League and the big six clubs flatter and praise each other while cheating at the game.

The smaller clubs look on, feeling that they and the fans should have a say in football, because they still believe that "Football belongs to everybody".
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Ryan Yates: "I must work harder!"

Of course we'll eventually have to give him to the Premier League big wigs so they can melt him down for glue.
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
Bobby The Brain said:
I don't think it's because we're who we are, just who we're not.
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Much as I absolutely agree with Forest's statement earlier this evening, I believe they could have shortened it by just saying exactly that.

Nail absolutely squarely hit on head. :worthy: 🎩
 
ubik

ubik

Geoff Thomas
Redemption said:
I'm real enough.

You mentioned the scatter gun approach and offered applause for 2 players.

Since the promotion, we've signed 40+ players. I was asking if you applauded any of the others.

But you might want to reflect on why we had no players when we got promoted?

Previous seasons of the scatter gun approach had left us running on the border of FFP infringement
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What is your point?

We got promoted thanks to an amazing run under SC, and a squad that gelled. Many loan players in there.

I don't know why we didn't keep more of the loan players - I suspect various reasons. But I don't regret us signing those players or getting promoted.
 
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