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Taiwo Micheal Awoniyi
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It does, but we've all see the photos of them a few days ago, so it's easy to make something up based on that alone.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
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DapperDan
Steve Chettle
They are using the Post as a source. I am not sure how many Chinese whispers have been involved to come to this story.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
Seems like Forest were told it would cost £15m to sign Davis and thought 'Well, there's this lad who's delivered in a top league in Europe who's got a similar style who will cost around £17m'.........
football post
I'm still here Crewton
Seems promising but I think I'll wait until Nixon confirms it.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Just goes to show how ridiculous that £15m price tag that Villa had supposedly put on him is. No one will be signing him at that price and Villa will end up with an unhappy player who they have no intention of using on their books.
I love Keinan and would be happy to see him back at Forest at the right price, but £15m is probably three times more than he is worth at this moment in time and you can get far more bang for your buck elsewhere.
Quntib Hollox
Jack Armstrong
Forest have got to learn from this when loaning young players in the future. We’ve enhanced the reputation/value of all the loan players from last season to the point where they are feasibly unviable. All future loans should have a fee built in to the loan so we gain some recognition for enhancing the standing of those players.
BryanRoy22
Ian Bowyer
Agree with you. Need to make sure we have a future fee involved, which is apparently what we're trying to do with Henderson.
From what I've read, Man United are not keen on the future fee but wouldn't mind loaning him to Forest for the season.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Agree with this, not getting an agreed fee built into the Spence loan has proven to be rather costly especially.
Though even with Keinan's enhanced reputation after his loan spell here, the money Villa reportedly want for him is ridiculous. £15m prices him out of a move and damages his career.
Quntib Hollox
Jack Armstrong
Even Utd can’t be letting someone sit on the bench on 100k a week for too long. We either buy outright or have a future fee in place following a loan. Not in our interest otherwise.
Villa have seen how he's taken to us, they've seen how much we love him and that we've now been promoted and are just trying to milk us for what they can get. I guarantee they'd be asking for far less had we not been promoted.
As you said KD is worth 5m max, he doesn't score enough to be worth any more than that. He's going to end up being loaned back to the championship for another year.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I still wouldn't be surprised to see him here late in the window. We won't pay anything like the fee banded about in the press at the moment, but when it is clear that no one is going to meet that ridiculous valuation late in the window we'll pick him up for a more realistic price IMO.
Highly possible, I feel similarly with Spence too.
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
It's not that easy to just demand a buy clause in a loan.
Presumably those demanding one think we should have given Worrall and Johnson one when we loaned them out?
Presumably those demanding one think we should have given Worrall and Johnson one when we loaned them out?
mysteryduck
First Team Squad
Yeah, selling clubs usually aren't keen to put in buy clauses because it doesn't advantage them if they think the player might have a future for them, or think their value will increase over time. Which will very often be the case.
sammy the snake
Jack Armstrong
This is spot. Sometimes it can be difficult to value a player without core playing time in the prem...Davis value has to be based upon performances/contract length. He's about 3rd or 4th place at Villa, so you're talking well under 10mill. Sure Forest really want him...he's got real chemistry for Forest, but Villa need to put the player first
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
Realistically Villa need to put their finances first.
Jimmy
First Team Squad
And we've got to do the same which means not paying over the odds.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I don't see what anyone has to gain by Villa's unrealistic valuation of Keinan. Won't benefit Villa (as they won't be getting a fee for a player they don't use) and certainly doesn't do Keinan's career any favours.
Winnits
Viv Anderson
Early posturing. I hope. It’ll be a shame for him not to get the opportunity to move somewhere he can flourish.
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
are villa strapped for cash?
Not so much strapped for cash, but they do have a large amount of debt, legacy of both spending their way out off-the-peg championship and then consolidating themselves in the top flight.
Follow Swissramble on Twitter, he does really good analysis of clubs‘ finances, and he did a thread on Villa.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
When does Davis's contract at Villa expire?
Sadly for him, he faces the possibility of sitting it out at Villa Park, with the liklihood he will be loaned out to another Championship club during the coming season, just to get his wage off the books.
Sadly for him, he faces the possibility of sitting it out at Villa Park, with the liklihood he will be loaned out to another Championship club during the coming season, just to get his wage off the books.
