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Tobias Figueiredo

puds1970

Steve Chettle
Time to get respected and knowledgeable opinion on Toby and here it is.

Tiago Estêvão


@TiagoEstv
5m5 minutes ago
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So apparently Tobias Figueiredo has both Forest & Leeds after him. If there's a place he can fit in it's in the Championship. Strong, quick, great in the air.
His positioning is questionable and he's often overly aggressive, but when in Rome...

If he joins us and ends up in Rome his positioning is very questionable. ;)
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Given that we have a Portugueuse defender whose name begins with Figueir- (Diogo Figueiras, RB), and given that, although he is a decent player he is by far the most brainless player I have ever seen (he will from time to time make incredible mistakes and he will quite often pick up cards for quarreling in the worst possible moment of the game), I have a very bad feeling for this Figueireido.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Given that we have a Portugueuse defender whose name begins with Figueir- (Diogo Figueiras, RB), and given that, although he is a decent player he is by far the most brainless player I have ever seen (he will from time to time make incredible mistakes and he will quite often pick up cards for quarreling in the worst possible moment of the game), I have a very bad feeling for this Figueireido.

Did you just describe the Portugese Matt Mills?
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Incidentally, if you plan to get a young CB, I have a Greek option:

Mavropanos could very well become the next Manolas. Very strong, excellent in tackling, not bad with the ball at his feet, scores a lot with headers. Still a bit rough around the edges obviously, but great material to work with.

We were on the verge of signing him for 800K euros (which is a relatively high price for a 20-year Greek from a small club), but then Wenger stepped in with his more than 2m.
I read in the Greek press that they are in love with him at Arsenal and that they try to loan him out because they think he's too good to play for the U23. They tried to send him to some German teams, and now they try to send him to whichever team in the Championship is interested.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
There's another reason I have a bad feeling for this, but I don't want to spoil your joy over your first transfer in months.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Is it the fact he's got the same agent as Marco Silva, Paulo Bento and Andre Martins? Clearly has some link with Marinkais.

Glad I didn't have to spill it out myself. As I had said after the summer transfer window, not only none of your signings had anything to do with the agents with whom we often do business with, but you weren't even linked with any of their clients. Now your first post-MW signing is a client of André Gonçalves, an agent with whom we have done many dealings in the past.

To make things even worse, links with the big agents is not useful so much in the acquisition end of transfer business for a club in your (and our) range, but mostly on the sale end of the business...
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
Glad I didn't have to spill it out myself. As I had said after the summer transfer window, not only none of your signings had anything to do with the agents with whom we often do business with, but you weren't even linked with any of their clients. Now your first post-MW signing is a client of André Gonçalves, an agent with whom we have done many dealings in the past.

To make things even worse, links with the big agents is not useful so much in the acquisition end of transfer business for a club in your (and our) range, but mostly on the sale end of the business...

Well considering it sounds like Vrentzos is doing transfer work for us, it wouldn't bother me if Karanka has gone to him and said "I need a centre half; tall, strong, quick, good in the air, I'll leave it to you." I'd expect them to be using those links as long as there is a balance and Karanka also gets players he's targeted specifically.
 

Matt

Stuart Pearce
Glad I didn't have to spill it out myself. As I had said after the summer transfer window, not only none of your signings had anything to do with the agents with whom we often do business with, but you weren't even linked with any of their clients. Now your first post-MW signing is a client of André Gonçalves, an agent with whom we have done many dealings in the past.

To make things even worse, links with the big agents is not useful so much in the acquisition end of transfer business for a club in your (and our) range, but mostly on the sale end of the business...

That's alright, we've got this wicked portugese centre back Milnos we wanna get rid of
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Well considering it sounds like Vrentzos is doing transfer work for us, it wouldn't bother me if Karanka has gone to him and said "I need a centre half; tall, strong, quick, good in the air, I'll leave it to you." I'd expect them to be using those links as long as there is a balance and Karanka also gets players he's targeted specifically.

This is probably the case.

Add in that it'll be a six month loan with the option to buy, I don't see anything wrong with it.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Well considering it sounds like Vrentzos is doing transfer work for us, it wouldn't bother me if Karanka has gone to him and said "I need a centre half; tall, strong, quick, good in the air, I'll leave it to you." I'd expect them to be using those links as long as there is a balance and Karanka also gets players he's targeted specifically.

That's not the right way to do transfer choices. Football people should make the choices, and Vrentzos does football business, not football. Even with the agents' links, there are other ways to compile a list of targets. Sure, two or three agents with which the clubs deems it's profitable in the long run to do business with will make suggestions, others (be it the DoF, the manager, scouters, or any other football people in the club) will make other suggestions, and then the manager will chose which of the financially viable options is the right man for him. It should never be the CEO; his job is to make the decisions others make happen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that Vrentzos imposed a choice on Karanka, he has never done that on any manager of Olympiacos. I'm just wondering if there's a sufficient team of football people to help Karanka make choices at the moment.
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that Vrentzos imposed a choice on Karanka, he has never done that on any manager of Olympiacos. I'm just wondering if there's a sufficient team of football people to help Karanka make choices at the moment.

Almost certainly not, but we already knew that. The previous owner completely gutted the scouting system, don't know how much was done to fix that over the summer but it's still likely not up there with our divisional peers.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
Glad I didn't have to spill it out myself. As I had said after the summer transfer window, not only none of your signings had anything to do with the agents with whom we often do business with, but you weren't even linked with any of their clients. Now your first post-MW signing is a client of André Gonçalves, an agent with whom we have done many dealings in the past.

To make things even worse, links with the big agents is not useful so much in the acquisition end of transfer business for a club in your (and our) range, but mostly on the sale end of the business...

Call me naive, but I really don't envisage Karanka as a manager who will willingly accept a player foisted on him for the sole purpose of doing a favour for an agent.
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
That's not the right way to do transfer choices. Football people should make the choices, and Vrentzos does football business, not football. Even with the agents' links, there are other ways to compile a list of targets. Sure, two or three agents with which the clubs deems it's profitable in the long run to do business with will make suggestions, others (be it the DoF, the manager, scouters, or any other football people in the club) will make other suggestions, and then the manager will chose which of the financially viable options is the right man for him. It should never be the CEO; his job is to make the decisions others make happen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that Vrentzos imposed a choice on Karanka, he has never done that on any manager of Olympiacos. I'm just wondering if there's a sufficient team of football people to help Karanka make choices at the moment.

It's all a bit too similar to how we operated last year for my liking tbh.

But time will tell.

:snack:
 

I'm Red Till Dead

Stuart Pearce
"But it's all right now, in fact, it's a gas
But it's all right, I'm Jumpin' Jack Flash
It's a gas, gas, gas"

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I see he can do tea pot impersonations. He should be good in tea time games.
 

BryanRoy22

Ian Bowyer
Looks like he can score a few goals from set pieces.

We haven't had one of them since Matt Mills under Dougie Freedman.
 

acrobat

First Team Squad
Has anyone thought that this guy might be a direct replacement for either Hobbs or Mills?..and not Worrell.
 
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