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Tim Sherwood

BryanRoy22

Ian Bowyer
Heard it all before. Two years ago Allardyce apparently wasn't good enough to be our manager. How's he doing now?

He conducts himself well in public and has a proven track record of doing good things in his managerial career.

I've no idea why people wouldn't have felt anything but positive about him.
 

tropix

Steve Chettle
Just a thought - Sherwood is favourite for the Newcastle job, so he might've been there to look at Lascelles
 

SLM92NF

Jack Burkitt
Heard it all before. Two years ago Allardyce apparently wasn't good enough to be our manager. How's he doing now?

Sam Allardyce at least had success he could point to, besides for me Mr Allardyce would get results here, I'm not too keen on the football he promotes though so it was a no go as far as I was concerned.

What does Tim Sherwood have? An average return you could argue? That would be very generous to say IMO and a lack of will to take any accountability for it.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Just a thought - Sherwood is favourite for the Newcastle job, so he might've been there to look at Lascelles

He'll not have been impressed then!
 

carlosmerino

Viv Anderson
Spot on.


That just isn't the behaviour of a manager in public. You stand by your players and your keep in-house issues in-house. Ferguson, Mourinho, Van Gaal, Wenger. All top managers defend their players in public to keep that solidarity, even if they know their players have done wrong.

It's the sign of somebody clueless to keep blaming their players. It's a bit like a bus driver blaming the passengers for making him crash.

When Davies was here I can only really remember him criticising one player in public to shame him into changing his habits. That was McGugan, and that was to let us as fans know specifically that he needed to buck up his ideas, and to be fair to Davies, it worked.

You have to know how to speak to individuals and how to get the best out of them. Players are people; they have different personalities. The best managers get to know their individuals and what works for each of them and how to bring a group together.

All of those managers have at some point criticised their team and individual players publicly.
 

JohnnyCarey

Viv Anderson
I can't understand the dislike of Sherwood. Did a great job with Tottenham last year and their results and performances under him were very impressive. He also spoke honestly when dealing with the media and dealt well with a difficult situation when the Tottenham board would neither back him or confirm they were talking to others. They clearly made a pretty good choice in Pochettino but Sherwood couldn't have done any more.

Good post. The idea of people trying their noses up at Sherwood in our current predicament is laughable. Who do they think is going to take on the job?
 

SLM92NF

Jack Burkitt
All of those managers have at some point criticised their team and individual players publicly.

In that manner? Telling his employers to "dream on" with the target they set him when he took the job. Saying there are players in his team that don't forget HE picked that he says he can't count on. Just watch that interview back and if you could find me one similar from another manager. I will be amazed.

There will be times where criticism will work in the public. They tend to be certain individuals with certain characters though. McGugan used as a point of reference seemed to be the only way anyone ever got through to him.

Good post. The idea of people trying their noses up at Sherwood in our current predicament is laughable. Who do they think is going to take on the job?

I'd rather keep Pearce than have him in. And believe me I want change!
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

Guest
I trust there is nothing in this.

I never really liked him when he was a player. And he didn't seem any easier to like when he was manager at Spurs. But whatever, that's not relevant to anything.

If he did become Forest's manager after sitting in the stands at a game when one of the most popular figures in the club's history was still in the job though, football could probably go f##k itself. So at the very least I'd turn my nose up at Sherwood being appointed Forest manager.
 
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Brian Fantana

Viv Anderson
Realistic alternatives.

Adkins, Garcia, McDermott.

I think they have to be managers without a club in our current position if we are expecting a change.
 

RufusTFirefly

Geoff Thomas
Roy doesn't want to be spotted in that pic does he? Unlike Timmy.

I can't see Keane wanting to take Stu's job, or be accused of being a factor in him losing it. Locking him in the dressing room with the players for half an hour might work wonders however.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
He is favourite for the Newcastle job isn't he? So could have been there to watch Lascelles and Darlow had he been playing?

Just a thought, but if that's the case I would've thought it would be more beneficial to him to have watched Newcastle....?
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Can't see why any of them would want it to spoil their reputation. This job is a poisoned chalice



Fawaz needs to accept he played a large part in that by sacking SOD. He's still a top owner, but I hope that he sees the bigger picture now, and that there's no point sacking anyone unless better can replace them.
 

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
Fawaz needs to accept he played a large part in that by sacking SOD. He's still a top owner, but I hope that he sees the bigger picture now, and that there's no point sacking anyone unless better can replace them.

He's made that mistake twice. The first time was SoD which was in hindsight catastrophic, the second was Billy, although I have to admit he was left with little option.
 

tropix

Steve Chettle
Let's face it - Fawaz hasn't made a decent managerial appointment yet, in three years. O'Driscoll may have been ok in the long run, but his comprehensive failure at Bristol City says otherwise. Everyone else has been flawed.

Why can't we just find that perfect fit. Good on the field, good off it
 

Thomas

AMERICAN IDIOT
Let's face it - Fawaz hasn't made a decent managerial appointment yet, in three years. O'Driscoll may have been ok in the long run, but his comprehensive failure at Bristol City says otherwise. Everyone else has been flawed.

Why can't we just find that perfect fit. Good on the field, good off it
There was Zola available, I liked him. And garcia is currently available which would be a good manager appointment given the league.
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Let's face it - Fawaz hasn't made a decent managerial appointment yet, in three years. O'Driscoll may have been ok in the long run, but his comprehensive failure at Bristol City says otherwise. Everyone else has been flawed.

Why can't we just find that perfect fit. Good on the field, good off it


Because mate, as all that points to, we can't attract a top calibre of manager.

Whoever comes here will be flawed because clubs in our position don't attract ones who aren't.

The difference between us and other clubs is that we concentrate on the 15% a manager is getting wrong rather than the 85% they're getting right.

Pearce's situation is a bang on example, as is SODs. Both have done loads for the club, yet a bit of poor form now, and a bit of intermittent form & "boring" interviews with SOD, and again it's "not good enough"
 

nffc13

Jack Burkitt
Because mate, as all that points to, we can't attract a top calibre of manager.

Whoever comes here will be flawed because clubs in our position don't attract ones who aren't.

The difference between us and other clubs is that we concentrate on the 15% a manager is getting wrong rather than the 85% they're getting right.

Pearce's situation is a bang on example, as is SODs. Both have done loads for the club, yet a bit of poor form now, and a bit of intermittent form & "boring" interviews with SOD, and again it's "not good enough"


Spot on.

People are picking up on Pearce's 'man up' comment and the need to come out fighting, to be busy bodies because they don't have much constructive to say.

You'll all regret your over-analysis and eagerness to criticise if we sack Pearce and we get an idiot in. Fawaz will be turning to McGovern and Faulkner for advice on the next manager when they probably want Pearce to stay anyway.

Has to stay, don't think people quite understand the magnitude of crap it would cause.
 
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