Ashley
Steve Chettle
I too would rather us give Johnson a chance than bring Silva back. Again, I don't think Silva is bad but I just don't think you can build a top 6 midfield around him, and he clearly doesn't want to play for us anyway.
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Tiago Silva!
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This player is in the 'Ex players' part of the forum for a reason.
What is this fascination we have with thinking that by bringing back former players we will suddenly become much better than what we were when they were here the first time round?
What is this fascination we have with thinking that by bringing back former players we will suddenly become much better than what we were when they were here the first time round?
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Agree. It's hardly like Silva will have gotten any better after becoming a year older and spending the season in Olympiacos reserves. I'd rather we looked forwards than backwards.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Aye. Feet up in the sun with next to f*** all game time? It'd prob be Artur MK2.
Several months getting him back up to speed, then he hands in a transfer request again.
No. Thanks.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Exactly. People moan about us signing "rejects" or "has beens" with little to no game time from Premier League or other Championship sides, I don't see how re-signing Silva would be any different to that.
I'd rather we signed someone hungry to play and succeed rather than a player who is happy to just pick up a wage sitting on the bench or sat at home every match day.
MASE
Up-Front
He wasnt the problem first time round. Excellent player, but on his own when it came to creative thinking.
We're prone to shite decisions, which is why I wouldnt rule out everyone we've let go.
Im also struggling with other assumptions he's "happy" to sit on the bench. How the f*** do we know how he's feeling about it.
Haych
John Robertson
No thanks, if you don’t want to play for us then I don’t want you to play for us regardless of talent.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
He must have known he wasn't going to get much game time at Olympiacos, to be fair. Even with my admittedly limited knowledge of Olympiacos and Greek football in general, I never felt that he had any chance of breaking into their starting XI.
If he really wanted to go to a club where he was going to play regularly, he would have gone elsewhere IMO.
GreeksBearingGifts
Stuart Pearce
Well, I can tell you how he looks on TV and photographs. The short answer is: utterly miserable. It's very striking. We have players with zero playing time who are always with a smile on their face, celebrating goals as if they were playing themselves, etc. Silva seems distant, sad, and never in a celebratory mood.
MASE
Up-Front
Take your point mate, but theres nothing concrete in there to confirm he didn't want to play for us & he's chosen life on the sidelines at Olympiacos.
He was in & out the side here, more out than in under Lamouchi, I wouldnt have an issue with any player looking for playing time. Im sure he backed himself to get into their side.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Perhaps he did back himself to get into their side, but I'd say that was pretty poor judgment from Tiago if that was the case, given the quality of player that Oly generally have in their starting XI.
Don't have any ill will towards the bloke personally mind you, but I doubt a reunion would be particularly great for either ourselves or Silva to be honest. Probably best for all parties to move on. I reckon he'll end up back in Portugal or Spain personally.
No he wasn't. He was OK, certainly not someone we could describe as 'excellent'.
If he'd been 'excellent' we'd have had a queue of clubs lining up to buy him for a substantial fee. As it was, our sister club over in Greece had to take him off our hands to sit in their reserves for 12 months.
That lack of interest tells you all you need to know, not what some dewy eyed reminiscence of a bang average Championship midfielder* tells you. I'd back the football scouting community over our own desire to take past players, stick them on some sort of pedestal and pretend they were better than they actually were as we think they are the answer to our problems.
He's gone. get over it. Getting him back would take us no further forward than what we were last season. Nowhere.
*That said, he's better than some of the shit we bought to replace him proved to be.
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
I've every faith in Hughton bringing players to the club who makes Silva look feeble by comparison.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
If his summer signings are of similar calibre to Garner and Krovinovic, then we'll certainly be in a much better place next season IMO.
mellison99
Youth Team
Why do you always refer to him as Artur? Did I miss something or are you genuinely forgetting that it's Arter?
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
It's the opposite of Osborne or Clarke.
GreeksBearingGifts
Stuart Pearce
If one trusts the Portugueuse press, we are very close to signing Edwards, in a complicated deal which involves Tiago Silva as well. We're reportedly giving Vitória Guimarães 5m plus Pêpê (a Portugueuse midfielder whom we bought for more than 3m but proved a terrible flop) and Silva, for 50% of the rights of Edwards (since Tottenham still retains the other 50%).
So Tiago Silva, who's looked spectacularly sad throughout last season and failed to impress in pre-season may be going back to Portugal.
It's Baggio
John Robertson
Wouldn't mind Oly sending Edwards here in a year or so's time.
Any Time Now
Jack Armstrong
The same club that Ribeiro is supposed to be joining
Danga
Formerly JLingz
Proper shame seeing Silva's career going sideways so much over the past 18 months. One of the players I really enjoyed watching here and one I think we ended up missing when he left.
cheapseats
Grenville Morris
Sideways?.
Down the shitter more like.
Really not sure how he’s managed to concoct a mess from where he was with us 2 years ago.
Sad
Down the shitter more like.
Really not sure how he’s managed to concoct a mess from where he was with us 2 years ago.
Sad
GreeksBearingGifts
Stuart Pearce
He signed for Vitória Guimarães, on a free. His transfer is unerlated to the acquisition of Marcus Edwards, which did not materialize.
https://twitter.com/VitoriaSC1922/status/1423939866560278530?s=20
https://twitter.com/VitoriaSC1922/status/1423939866560278530?s=20
BryanRoy
Stuart Pearce
New Maestro hey?
https://twitter.com/VitoriaSC1922/status/1423954648151515139?s=20
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Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Alfa Semedo is there too. Just need Samba Sow & Yuri to join them now for the Forest 19/20 tribute act.
The Portuguese league is shown on DAZN, if Vitòria are playing I’ll have to check them out and see how they’re doing.