The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

[andyd]

So we are at the old ‘Talk to the local media about considering what the people don’t want so that they get angry and put pressure on the council to get around the table in a realistic way with the club.’ stage of proceedings, are we? Interesting.

Clearly the council have got themselves in a right mess. It’s sad really, David Mellen was a teacher of mine at primary school back in the day and he’s a thoroughly good bloke, so I find it a massive shame that this is the situation on his watch.

That said, with the FFP changes that are coming we need the redevelopment yesterday since everything we do will be tied to the revenue we can raise. This to me is a bigger spectre on the horizon for the club than the potential points deduction. Spades need to hit the ground asap and it seems the club are starting the process of ramping up the pressure on the council to find a breakthrough.

 

[Masuka]

Allianz stadium in Torino.

And mostly because the cut capacity from the old delle Alpi and built an actual football stadium.

That is a great stadium. Doesn’t look amazing from the outside but inside is great, steep stands close to the pitch.

 

[Project Zeus]

Surely we're not threatening to leave and spend hundreds of millions on building a new stadium over a 750k rent charge?

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[magicwoand]

That is a great stadium. Doesn’t look amazing from the outside but inside is great, steep stands close to the pitch.

It looks pretty spectacular to me

 

[alabamared]

Thats because my lad can tell you where I sat as a kid, I can tell you where my dad sat as a kid, my dad can tell you where his uncle sat as a kid... there's nigh on 100 years of history in that ground of my family just from this one season ticket holder..... there's 20 000 more of me again with possibly another 100 years of memories in that ground, you can only replicate that by being in the new ground for 100 years.

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Sat? Are you from of southerners?
As a kid me, my brothers, cousins, my Dad and Uncles always stood (like proper men) under the floodlights were the East Stand met the Kop just by Wally Ardron's boot print in the concrete.

 

[Chappers85]

Oh Flatpack Stadium,
The smoke rolling in from the burger shop on the corner
My desire is always to get the hell out of here before the traffic builds up
Oh Flatpack stadium.

Oh, Soulless Bowl
Oh mist rolling in from Dunelm
My desire, is to lose our identity
Oh, Soulless Bowl!

YOU REDS*

*The colour red is subject to change, and in no way should be considered to have a permanent affinity to this football club.

 

[Notcher]

Honestly this genuinely saddens me to unbelievable levels. My connection to this club runs through the city ground like the veins in my body. Take the city ground away and the disconnect for me would be too much. I honestly think that would be it for me and Forest

 

[Rubics]

I know but it would be wrong of me to say. But in reality it is not that hard to work out.

The amount of boss and stone island clobber in the walk in wardrobe gives it away - and i‘m not joking!

 

[DizzyBala]

I wouldn't and £1M a year to a league 1 club is a fair whack. Who would you support?

That's a pretty good question, in terms of geography, the obvious choice would be Notts, been a few times when Forest haven't been playing and it's ok but I couldn't take the anti-Forest stuff from them. Most likely, I think I'd just probably give up watching. I feel like I love Forest more than I love football as a sport anyway, I don't really enjoy watching other teams play and stuff.

In a pinch, Mansfield Town would be a decent option. I like Mansfield Town.

But yeah, as miserable as them three seasons in League One were for the club, I couldn't stomach the club playing elsewhere, it's nowhere near the same. Being a football supporter isn't just about going to watch the football for a lot of us. It's the little match day routines, it's who you sit with, where you sit. It's all the memories you've had at that place.

Not for me.

As for the council, they're asking a Premierleague club to pay £1m in rent. Considering how much money is in the game in the PL, they probably think it's about right.

 

[andyd]

All this talk of the land the ground is on being space the council want to free up for development to make some money, the logic of that doesn’t make sense. Any developer who wants it is buying the freehold, they aren’t building there on the councils land because that’s where they make their money.

So the real question becomes whether NFFC value the City Ground, our home of 100+ years, at the same level as a developer values the land it sits on. If they do, just buy the freehold and get on with it.

They should, but do they?

That feels like the £1m (or £50m) council question. There is that sneaky suspicion in the back of my mind though that the answer to it isn’t what we fans would hope it is.

 

[Lee]

Everything will work out, just forcing the council to stop pissing around.

 

[PlayedOnGrass]

I know but it would be wrong of me to say. But in reality it is not that hard to work out.

I hope you are going to say the one on Church Drive just because he has a black Lamborghini and Rangerover and his initials are the same - because it is not

 

[incident]

I'm trying to think of one single new stadium that has a better atmosphere than it's previous old ground.

Falmer, if you cheat a tiny bit and compare it to Withdean.

 

[alabamared]

I hope you are going to say the one on Church Drive just because he has a black Lamborghini and Rangerover and his initials are the same - because it is not

No but I do know something that house if we are thinking of the same one(the one currently on the market for 1.4 million?). In any event I am not saying anything it would be grossly wrong of me to start putting that sort of information on a public forum.

 

[Cloughie1975]

Falmer, if you cheat a tiny bit and compare it to Withdean.

Falmer is arguably a better atmosphere than the Goldstone Ground also-but it’s in a shite location.

 

[FLC]

It’s a negotiating tactic. We’re not going anywhere.

 

[Simmo's Bus]

It was posted earlier in this thread.

Must have fallen in a pothole. That’s why I didn’t see it

 

[eyupmeduck]

I think the proposal from 18th June 2019 gives the detail and says the revenue impact for the council will be additional.£1m, maybe the club thought that was accross the 250 year lease as opposed to annually.

I personally don't think we are interested in moving, we may be looking at reducing the cost of the freehold or just trying to negotiate the rent. The council have the building up the road partially up for sale, they need cash and see us as a good source for that.

It seems like we are doing a reverse Man U where the local authority are trying to get more money out of us for the cost of redeveloping the ground, roads boat clubs and residential development around the ground. Understandable but none of this is new.

Danny Taylor reckons that Marinakis tried to buy the guardian newspaper when they printed an unfavourable story about him, it may not be entirely accurate (He does though have media companies in Greece) but it wouldn't surprise me if the council have set the rent high to provoke a sale of the freehold. They see a Premier league us as a bit of a cash cow imho.

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[PlayedOnGrass]

No but I do know something that house if we are thinking of the same one(the one currently on the market for 1.4 million?). In any event I am not saying anything it would be grossly wrong of me to start putting that sort of information on a public forum.

That’s the one!
Not built to my taste but we are all different
And agreed

 

[chaospunx]

f*** me anymore bad news they want to throw at us this season

 

[Eddie Yates]

Simple solution

EM just needs to buy a bollock load of land at the Eastcroft site & then dismantle the CG piecemeal & build it back up at the new site, ok we lose the river location but it's closer to town & the boozers for pre-match larrup

With regards to the asbestos in the main stand roof then I know some Romanians that will deal with this if we give them a few dust masks

For f*** sake I don't know why it's always left to me to sort everything out

 

[I'm Red Till Dead]

No, contingency money is to be used for one-off, unpredictable events.

It shouldn't cover planned expenditure.

You think councils plan!

 

[Lefkasman]

Simple solution

EM just needs to buy a bollock load of land at the Eastcroft site & then dismantle the CG piecemeal & build it back up at the new site, ok we lose the river location but it's closer to town & the boozers for pre-match larrup

With regards to the asbestos in the main stand roof then I know some Romanians that will deal with this if we give them a few dust masks

For f*** sake I don't know why it's always left to me to sort everything out

Those Romanians that live near Bryn would soon take it away and burn it.

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[Otis Redding]

I think the proposal from 18th June 2019 gives the detail and says the revenue impact for the council will be additional.£1m, maybe the club thought that was accross the 250 year lease as opposed to annually.

I personally don't think we are interested in moving, we may be looking at reducing the cost of the freehold or just trying to negotiate the rent. The council have the building up the road partially up for sale, they need cash and see us as a good source for that.

It seems like we are doing a reverse Man U where the local authority are trying to get more money out of us for the cost of redeveloping the ground, roads boat clubs and residential development around the ground. Understandable but none of this is new.

Danny Taylor reckons that Marinakis tried to buy the guardian newspaper when they printed an unfavourable story about him, it may not be entirely accurate (He does though have media companies in Greece) but it wouldn't surprise me if the council have set the rent high to provoke a sale of the freehold. They see a Premier league us as a bit of a cash cow imho.

The building up the road (I assume) you're refering to is County Hall mate, the HQ of Nottinghamshire County Council. Our beef is with Nottingham City Council.

 

[I'm Red Till Dead]

Redemption said:


They're set aside for shit that happens, like Mablethorpe falling into the sea.

Again

But that might well be an improvement, no?

No.

Perhaps they should do what they did in Chicago years ago and lift everything up a few metres.