Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Agreed-Brentford still have a home ‘banker’ against Sheffield United.
I can’t see them being in serious trouble.
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The Relegation Dogfight 23/24
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I can’t see them being in serious trouble.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
Sky bet this morning-
Sheffield United-not listed
Burnley-1/10
Luton-4/11
Forest-3/1
Everton-7/2
Brentford-16/1
Palace-20/1
Sheffield United-not listed
Burnley-1/10
Luton-4/11
Forest-3/1
Everton-7/2
Brentford-16/1
Palace-20/1
Trents
John Robertson
I'd still rather play them in that scenario than them having to get a result against us.
Hungry Horace
First Team Squad
Luton’s home games worry me; they could win all four of them.
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HappyHappyJoyJoy
Viv Anderson
Generally, teams with no motivation perform significantly worse than teams with motivation.
It doesn't mean they can't win but that's how Bookmakers model those matches.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Yeah same.
The players are more likely to be "on the beach" - they'll be planning potential moves away as they won't want to stay at their respective clubs if relegation wage decreases are triggered in their contracts. They'll likely be half-arsed about it.
This is Southampton's run in where they needed to win 4 games to stay up. They had the fixtures to do it and all:
Similar story to Leeds after they beat us:
Both teams got worse as relegation got more likely/confirmed.
Forest the opposite, we got better after beating Brighton and sensed the opportunity of staying up.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
They could, but it would be a bit of a turnaround given they've only won three there so far this season.
HappyHappyJoyJoy
Viv Anderson
It is professional not to try hard when there is no benefit to you or your club.
Why risk injury or suspension with no upside?
Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
Yeah, I've never bought the line of thought that already relegated teams suddenly get better.
The flip side is that they also don't have any motivation to win, whereas the other sides still fighting will have it in spades.
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The flip side is that they also don't have any motivation to win, whereas the other sides still fighting will have it in spades.
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Trents
John Robertson
On paper yes but with 3 points from their last 9 matches now their confidence must be rock bottom.
Shame Palace aren't closer to bottom, they have a really tough run in.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
See Gonzalo Jara when he was in the final few months of his contract here ahead of the upcoming World Cup. He was actively running away from the bal and skirting any challenges. His sole focus was staying injury free so he could play in the World Cup and secure a contract elsewhere. He ended up joining Mainz who were playing in the Europa League...
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
I don’t think Bournemouth,Brentford,Everton and Fulham are easy meat.
If Luton win all 4 then fair play to them.
HappyHappyJoyJoy
Viv Anderson
Even if you're not angling for a move, a dubious red card and you miss games in the following season.
Hungry Horace
First Team Squad
Don’t they are, no, but I’m a pessimist when it comes to relegation having experienced it regularly in my early years of supporting Forest!
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Trents
John Robertson
I really think Sheff Utd will be down by the time we visit them. Already 10 points from safety. They will have 9 to play for by the time we meet and they still have Liverpool, Chelsea, Utd and Newcastle before then.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Yeah I think that's highly possible.
RedRobbo
Geoff Thomas
Although they’ll be struggling to field 11 fit players pretty soon.
Stocky Red
First Team Squad
Agreed, Bournemouth are in good form and should at least score, Brentford and Everton are very much in the mix and will be fighting for their lives. Hopefully they have nothing to play for against Fulham.
The Bournemouth game is massive for them - they really need to win it and the pressure will be huge.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Brentford are in a terrible run of form and Fulham have been dross away all season.
Bournemouth and Everton are harder but there's every possibility that Luton win 2, maybe 3 of them.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Apparently Everton find out about their latest charge after the weekends fixtures. They have Burnley at home in the Dyche cup, with Company I think serving a touchline ban, so that really is a must win for them given their likely getting a deduction two days later.
justnotjase
Viv Anderson
If it was that easy for them to win four home games in a row then they'd have done it already several times this season. It isn't happening. Teams at the bottom very rarely go on four game winning streaks.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
There's every possibility they win none also - Luton's form is also dross and they're in the midst of an injury crisis.
I remember this time last year when the teams that struggled all season were all of a sudden going to put better than title winning form together. They didn't, and they rarely do.
It's not really worth worrying about - we just need to win a couple of games or more.
Robertson
Viv Anderson
Given everyone at the bottom seems to be playing everyone else, I'm hoping for lot's of lovely low scoring draws.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Agreed, but would rather not rely on teams not making 30 points for us to stay up, we're better than that and can sort our own problems out. Agree with your last sentence therefore.