The Official F A Cup (Replay) Thread: Forest v Bristol City (Kick Off: 19:45, Wednesday 7th February (Provisional)

[It's Baggio]

Glad to get through at the end of what was another arduous cup tie and another poor cup performance.

Turner did okay & I was pleased he made the penalty save but I'd have expected him to push the initial shot wide in the lead up to the first goal. He got a good hand on to it but the ball just seemed to burst through him, that said the defending before & after the shot was slack to say the least. Bar the odd spell, the back 3 did okay but I thought they played a bit too narrow and subsequently our wing backs played too deep. In possession they struggled as well and really highlighted the value of Murillo, who can pick a pass & carry it forward. There was far too much square & sideways stuff throughout the 120 mins.

Danilo put in another up & down performance, he's really not suited to picking the ball up in deep area's in my opinion but on the odd time he was able to break forward and link with the attacking players, he looked a threat. Kouyate got to stretch his legs but seemed to spend most of his time trying to stay out of the way. Hopefully MGW is fit but he had another frustrating evening as we struggled to get him in the game where he can hurt teams.

Origi was in the right place for his goal but hopefully we won't need to rely on him too much for the rest of the season, MGW was visibly annoyed with him a few times early in the first half for a lack of movement. Elanga looked electric once or twice in the opening 20 minutes but gradually faded out of the game, good for him to get another hour in the tank though. The subs did okay; Williams was a huge upgrade on Montiel, Taiwo got into a couple of good positions but looked reluctant to shoot and it was really nice to see Gardner get a runout and put himself about to good effect.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Tongue in cheek - it was only the other week you were saying Wood was shit and not worth his pick

Lol. Definitely complained about Wood being a poor purchase for the price and a terrible, poorly-researched buy considering how Cooper played too. not sure I ever classed him just as "shit" though? Maybe I did at some point.

Poor Nuno, can't win, the previous manager made people think Wood needed sending to the glue factory. Now having got more out of him than the previous manager, he's apparently ran him into the ground, when our only fit strikers available for those games was... Wood.

Ha, all these years on these boards and you'd never seen a game of football where the manager played without a striker or with a none-striker in that role, like Davies did Halford. Impressive.

 

[Gyros Peter]

If you have one fit striker that's bang in form you play him. I'd have preferred him to play less but there was literally noone else.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

If you have one fit striker that's bang in form you play him. I'd have preferred him to play less but there was literally noone else.

For every minute of every game in an intense Xmas & NY period, including pretty irrelevant cup games?

Like I've already said, other players can dep for 10-20 min in the striker role or you can play without a striker for that time, especially against clubs like Blackpool in the cup. It's not an ideal scenario, but when you're trying to stay up then it's one I'd have preferred to seen personally.

 

[Monkman]

It's a fair comment Alf, I guess the issue has been that we haven't been in a position in any of those games to take our most potent goal threat off, as we've needed a winner or equaliser.

 

[magicwoand]

Lol. Definitely complained about Wood being a poor purchase for the price and a terrible, poorly-researched buy considering how Cooper played too. not sure I ever classed him just as "shit" though? Maybe I did at some point.



Ha, all these years on these boards and you'd never seen a game of football where the manager played without a striker or with a none-striker in that role, like Davies did Halford. Impressive.

They normally play without a striker when they have no striker available. We had a striker available. Who could we realistically played upfront instead of wood... Chaka Demus?

 

[mister]

Full match is now on youtube, with no commentary.

 

[Gyros Peter]

For every minute of every game in an intense Xmas & NY period, including pretty irrelevant cup games?

Like I've already said, other players can dep for 10-20 min in the striker role or you can play without a striker for that time, especially against clubs like Blackpool in the cup. It's not an ideal scenario, but when you're trying to stay up then it's one I'd have preferred to seen personally.

You can't do that if you're trying to win every game you play, which I think by now we've learned that Nuno is.

Also, realistically the only player we have who can actually do it also has no cover, and the one who can't really do it struggled when he did. (mgw and Elanga respectively)

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

It's a fair comment Alf, I guess the issue has been that we haven't been in a position in any of those games to take our most potent goal threat off, as we've needed a winner or equaliser.

I just wouldn't have prioritized that in the cup games myself, nor would I with MGW last night. If we lose we lose, we have bigger fish to fry.

Just my POV though, I like to be romantic about the cup when there's freedom to be, but I don't think there is at mo.

They normally play without a striker, when they have no striker available. We had a striker available.

You don't have to play them in every minute of every game just because they are available. True story.

You can't do that if you're trying to win every game you play, which I think by now we've learned that Nuno is.

Also, realistically the only player we have who can actually do it also has no cover, and the one who can't really do it struggled when he did. (mgw and Elanga respectively)

If Greg Halford can cover the striker role, I'm confident we could have given someone like Yates a run out in that position for 10-20 minutes in some matches, and maybe even some academy players in the cup game.

Sure, it's not ideal and certainly goes against the ethos of trying to win every game, but the Cup's not a priority for me in this situation. And even if it was, I'd still wouldn't want to risk keeping players on like MGW when they're cramping up against teams like Bristol.

Just my ethos though, obviously not Nuno's.

 

[Robertson]

I only have vague memories of the Greg Halford as striker era. Was it an especially successful move?

 

[Rubics]

Full match is now on youtube, with no commentary.

God no - I’ve already lost 210 minutes of my life to Forest v Bristol!

 

[congo_red_49]

I only have vague memories of the Greg Halford as striker era. Was it an especially successful move?

He was as good at Striker as he was at Right Back.

 

[Robertson]

He was as good at Striker as he was at Right Back.

Ah. I see.

 

[Gyros Peter]

I just wouldn't have prioritized that in the cup games myself, nor would I with MGW last night. If we lose we lose, we have bigger fish to fry.

Just my POV though, I like to be romantic about the cup when there's freedom to be, but I don't think there is at mo.


You don't have to play them in every minute of every game just because they are available. True story.


If Greg Halford can cover the striker role, I'm confident we could have given someone like Yates a run out in that position for 10-20 minutes in some matches, and maybe even some academy players in the cup game.

Sure, it's not ideal and certainly goes against the ethos of trying to win every game, but the Cup's not a priority for me in this situation. And even if it was, I'd still wouldn't want to risk keeping players on like MGW when they're cramping up against teams like Bristol.

Just my ethos though, obviously not Nuno's.

I understand what you're saying and Greg Halford aside part of me agrees with you, but I think the point remains that Nuno is going to go for it in every game, and if that means 100 plus minutes of the only striker we have available for six games or whatever that's what he's going to do.

Think his Newcastle away line-up was the first sign that he is that way inclined - whether we like it or not he's going to try and win games. Winning breeds winning etc.

If we had options we'd have rotated him more I think, but we didn't.

 

[sammy the snake]

Brizzle were really good and fluid and wanted it more in the first half. Turner had a good game and his kicking and positioning really good in my view, also he had a bit of decent banter with the Trent end and Brizzles young lad called Bell.

Neco Williams is going to be crucial for us in the next couple of seasons he’s getting better each game

Was really surprised Forest didn’t delay the game for 15 mins

 

[Gyros Peter]

Brizzle were really good and fluid and wanted it more in the first half. Turner had a good game and his kicking and positioning really good in my view, also he had a bit of decent banter with the Trent end and Brizzles young lad called Bell.

Neco Williams is going to be crucial for us in the next couple of seasons he’s getting better each game

Was really surprised Forest didn’t delay the game for 15 mins

Not that I saw much last night, but from the first game and the west ham one I think they are a decent striker away from a good side. Its a shame they seem hesitant to reinvest as they could do something.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I understand what you're saying and Greg Halford aside part of me agrees with you, but I think the point remains that Nuno is going to go for it in every game, and if that means 100 plus minutes of the only striker we have available for six games or whatever that's what he's going to do.

Think his Newcastle away line-up was the first sign that he is that way inclined - whether we like it or not he's going to try and win games. Winning breeds winning etc.

If we had options we'd have rotated him more I think, but we didn't.

Oh for sure, I respect Nuno for making that choice and if it keeps us up and even wins us the cup he'll be a legend for it.

Conversely, if it breaks a key player and sends us down he'll be a villain.

Fine margins and all that.

 

[Gyros Peter]

Oh for sure, I respect Nuno for making that choice and if it keeps us up and even wins us the cup he'll be a legend for it.

Conversely, if it breaks a key player and sends us down he'll be a villain.

Fine margins and all that.

All he can do is set us up to win games really - if players break they break. If anything I think we've left him light up top, but that's a little bit with the hindsight of finding out about Wood breaking. I still think we could have used another winger, but maybe Origi is considered more of an option there. (I'm fairly convinced he'd had been off but for the same wood injury though.)

 

[sammy the snake]

It was not an enjoyable game to watch, but a win is a win and that helps confidence.
The crowd? Poor, and far too many folks getting up and moving all the time. The unspeakable going for the uneatable I suppose, although the chicken balti pies smell nice.
It does show though that we need a bigger capacity, and if I had my way, there would be a separate section for the 'day trippers / tourists / whatever' so they can munch away without bothering anyone else. A couple of thousand seats that are never sold as season cards, or indeed to members. To a degree that will perhaps help to overcome the problem that so many PL clubs have in that the demand exceeds the supply of tickets and so the next generation of fans can't get to go.
I'd also like to see any stadium redevelopment incorporate a bigger area for kids and families, safe standing also to help with the atmosphere. The team didn't help the mood last night, the performance was generally very slow and uninspiring, but I'll gladly take the win and games v Man Utd are always a bit special.
Anyone else irritated by the monotony of the chants and songs? Football in a library is heard at every televised game and it is pathetic and boring, especially when sung by the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth. I reckon that the Forest crowd has a history of being inventive, although you wouldn't have said that last night. We do need an "end" with standing, whatever we decide to do re the ground.

Spot on all this. I was taking the piss out of Brenford the other night but last night was really poor atmosphere for Forest, thank god those travelling up from Bristol made some noise. So it leads me to the conclusion that I couldn’t care less if building starts during the season, it’ll make absolutely zero difference to what we call our poker card, the crowd. Sure against manure etc it’ll be good but I did miss the crowd support last night. We need to be reminded we’re not a big club yet and don’t deserve any accolades.

We need to fully adopt safe standing, simple as that

 

[sammy the snake]

Not that I saw much last night, but from the first game and the west ham one I think they are a decent striker away from a good side. Its a shame they seem hesitant to reinvest as they could do something.

What I really liked about them, they’re quite a youthful side, not dirty and play through the middle very quickly, not many miss placed passes either. Their league position is hiding their potential I think

 

[trentside69]

What I really liked about them, they’re quite a youthful side, not dirty and play through the middle very quickly, not many miss placed passes either. Their league position is hiding their potential I think

I think you get more honesty in the championship.
You do get cheating but nowhere near the level of the con artists of the premier league who can even trick the cameras

 

[Gyros Peter]

What I really liked about them, they’re quite a youthful side, not dirty and play through the middle very quickly, not many miss placed passes either. Their league position is hiding their potential I think

Yeah they ping it around really tidily from what I've seen. Second worst form in the championship though last six games, so not sure if they struggle against a different type of side or not?

 

[PynchonForest]

I just watched the match highlights. Not a very good performance, up against a mid table Champo side. Judging by the match stats and highlights. Felipe looks like he has lost a step or two.

 

[Notcher]

If this lads father is on here I sincerely hope that he didn't get a shirt!! Not a "please" anywhere to be seen. Teach him some manners.

https://x.com/rxnga/status/1755358991037681844?s=20

 

[PynchonForest]

If this lads father is on here I sincerely hope that he didn't get a shirt!! Not a "please" anywhere to be seen. Teach him some manners.

https://x.com/rxnga/status/1755358991037681844?s=20

How many signs does he have?