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The ‘I have something to say about Forest that doesn’t warrant its own thread’ Thread

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
2049 and 2064 is our years lads
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So, we're winning it again in my 100th year, 2049. A challenge for me to try and hang around then.
 

duncanmckenzie

First Team Squad
I know there's every chance this season may well end in tears but as someone who first went in1962 but can't get a ticket these days I'd like to ask a question. How is it that from my perspective the EPL is quite a bit weaker this season and we have a more talented team why are we in such a bad state of affairs? Putting aside the questionable refereeing decisions and injuries that are not unique to Nottingham Forest. I'm just curious
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
I know there's every chance this season may well end in tears but as someone who first went in1962 but can't get a ticket these days I'd like to ask a question. How is it that from my perspective the EPL is quite a bit weaker this season and we have a more talented team why are we in such a bad state of affairs? Putting aside the questionable refereeing decisions and injuries that are not unique to Nottingham Forest. I'm just curious
Other than the items you have mentioned - the main problems have been gifting opposition teams goals through Goalkeeping Blunders and poor defending of set-pieces and crosses.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
I know there's every chance this season may well end in tears but as someone who first went in1962 but can't get a ticket these days I'd like to ask a question. How is it that from my perspective the EPL is quite a bit weaker this season and we have a more talented team why are we in such a bad state of affairs? Putting aside the questionable refereeing decisions and injuries that are not unique to Nottingham Forest. I'm just curious
I think it's arguable that we haven't been more impacted than most by referee and/or VAR incompetence/bias Dunc.
 

Red Echo

Youth Team
I know there's every chance this season may well end in tears but as someone who first went in1962 but can't get a ticket these days I'd like to ask a question. How is it that from my perspective the EPL is quite a bit weaker this season and we have a more talented team why are we in such a bad state of affairs? Putting aside the questionable refereeing decisions and injuries that are not unique to Nottingham Forest. I'm just curious
Any team in the world is only as good as their keeper and strikers. The ultimate difference makers. The less said about Turner and the other bloke the better, and Awoniyi's fitness has been a question mark all year. Wood showing up in the last couple of months has given us a chance.

Brentford have been without their main goal threat for most of the year, and they didn't replace Raya particularly well - same problem, same result.

It's quite incredible that we've spent so much and not gotten this right from the start.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Well done to the YEL for leading the way. This is a huge problem in grassroots football, anyone that coaches or has kids in grassroots will know the issues.
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^ That‘s Hamilton Academicals f**ked, then?
 

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
You mentioned a little while ago that you were hoping to attend a game through one of the hospitality avenues, did you get to go VP?
I went to the Southampton game last season. It was good fun, a most enjoyable game. The hospitalty area was very adjacent to the director's box, so that was fine. There were the usual few jackasses in the hospitality area, but nothing could put me off the enjoyment of the evening.

I had planned for one game this season, but the cost is a bit high for the pension pot at the moment.
 

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
2049 and 2064 is our years lads
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I love the way the AI is almost human, throwing in a few random clubs who are never likely to win it, but it would be boring if they went with reality and stayed with the half dozen clubs who are really likely to win it.
 

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Nor Spurs, the only thing that lets it down is Newcastle being in there twice.
Have you ever seen a Geordie with a cup? Have you fukc!!!!!!
2034.
 

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
I went to the Southampton game last season. It was good fun, a most enjoyable game. The hospitalty area was very adjacent to the director's box, so that was fine. There were the usual few jackasses in the hospitality area, but nothing could put me off the enjoyment of the evening.

I had planned for one game this season, but the cost is a bit high for the pension pot at the moment.
If I win tonight's Euromillions, Richard, I'll get us all some hospitality seats for the final few home games. I'll even send a limo to East Anglia to pick you up.

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garibaldi

Jack Armstrong
Well done to the YEL for leading the way. This is a huge problem in grassroots football, anyone that coaches or has kids in grassroots will know the issues.
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I can't think of any club in the YEL with academy in their name?

I know DLFC market themselves as some big time club where parents are rumoured to pay north of £50 a month for elite coaching, but they're not that great.
 

Notcher

Stuart Pearce
I can't think of any club in the YEL with academy in their name?

I know DLFC market themselves as some big time club where parents are rumoured to pay north of £50 a month for elite coaching, but they're not that great.
I'm not sure about the YEL anymore, my son was 9 when we left for South Yorkshire. There's absolutely tonnes of them up here. Unfortunately parents seem to think that it's some kind of pathway into academies and that the coaching is a lot better. Neither are true and they get absolutely fleeced for the privilege.
 
I can't think of any club in the YEL with academy in their name?

I know DLFC market themselves as some big time club where parents are rumoured to pay north of £50 a month for elite coaching, but they're not that great.
Is that the lot that play at South glade leisure centre? My eldest lad played them twice this year and won both comfortably. Absolutely bang average in terms of organisation and facilities. What does DL stand for by the way?

And the phuqers made me miss the Wet Sham game away due to a stupid bloody kick off time. Although, with hindsight, that might have not been so bad.

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Barry

Where's me hammer?
Is that the lot that play at South glade leisure centre? My eldest lad played them twice this year and won both comfortably. Absolutely bang average in terms of organisation and facilities. What does DL stand for by the way?

And the phuqers made me miss the Wet Sham game away due to a stupid bloody kick off time. Although, with hindsight, that might have not been so bad.

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If it's the club I am thinking of the initials are the name of the guy who set the club up.... ie Barry Smith football club, make of that what you will.

I was talking to a club chairman of a well established nottingham club a few months back about them and academies, he didn't have a very good opinion of them. Said theyd come in and decimated one of the teams in the club with promises for a price, that ain't grass roots football but parents hang onto it.

There was two pro player academies that trained next to us a few years back on a hired pitch, the parents hung on their every word it was quite sad really. Let the kids play

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Bonfy177

LTLF MORON

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Walking through soho tonight in my Forest coat and I hear someone shout " U REDSSSSSSSSSSSS"
I had that happen to me once in Osaka.

A local Japanese guy as well. Very bizarre.
 
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I love the way the AI is almost human, throwing in a few random clubs who are never likely to win it, but it would be boring if they went with reality and stayed with the half dozen clubs who are really likely to win it.
The chart highlights a significant issue with AI.

What it’s doing is using a combination of past and recent history (from the web), chewing it over through it’s algorithms and this is the result. But the result adds to the problem.

Let’s say, after seeing this, we decide to run it again. This time the AI will follow the same process, except, the previous effort now becomes part of the data set prior to the calculation. The issue is that the previous effort will have an influence, very small, perhaps less than a thousand of a thousand of a percent in influence terms, but it’s there, and factored in nonetheless.

So now, we run it a third time, the original data set is part of the calculation but now so is the second - ever so slightly biased - version. This means the third version is ever so slightly more biased towards the original version than the second as it factors in the bias.

Doesn’t sound like a huge issue but when the same algorithm is used hundreds/thousands/millions of times that bias keeps growing in influence. In theory you get to an end point where the result is the same every time due to the information sourced, which ironically, in this example, is now 99.9% AI generated.

”So what?” you might say. Which is fair enough given the subject material. However, the above is already a huge issue, even without AI. Social media posts going viral follow a similar path. The difference is the speed at which this happens is hugely accelerated by AI and is applied to far less benign subjects than predicting football matches.

f***ing Skynet. What a wanker.
 

Robertson

Viv Anderson
The chart highlights a significant issue with AI.

What it’s doing is using a combination of past and recent history (from the web), chewing it over through it’s algorithms and this is the result. But the result adds to the problem.

Let’s say, after seeing this, we decide to run it again. This time the AI will follow the same process, except, the previous effort now becomes part of the data set prior to the calculation. The issue is that the previous effort will have an influence, very small, perhaps less than a thousand of a thousand of a percent in influence terms, but it’s there, and factored in nonetheless.

So now, we run it a third time, the original data set is part of the calculation but now so is the second - ever so slightly biased - version. This means the third version is ever so slightly more biased towards the original version than the second as it factors in the bias.

Doesn’t sound like a huge issue but when the same algorithm is used hundreds/thousands/millions of times that bias keeps growing in influence. In theory you get to an end point where the result is the same every time due to the information sourced, which ironically, in this example, is now 99.9% AI generated.

”So what?” you might say. Which is fair enough given the subject material. However, the above is already a huge issue, even without AI. Social media posts going viral follow a similar path. The difference is the speed at which this happens is hugely accelerated by AI and is applied to far less benign subjects than predicting football matches.

f***ing Skynet. What a wanker.
Like most technology it has its positive uses of course. But also like most other technology it rapidly gets abused by idiots and rampant capitalism.
 
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