Summer 2022 Transfer Window

[PlayedOnGrass]

Proof of the pudding is in the eating as they say! I'm not a huge fan of adding that many to a squad at once, don't think anyone is... but through a surprise promotion and a bit of a lack of foresight in the past it's been necessary and to give credit I think it's been done in the most sensible way possible; a lot of players but most you could see being sold for a profit in the future when and if it becomes necessary. Whether it'll all gel together and workout I can't even hazard a guess at this point. I would've liked that extra striker with a bit of Premier League nous but the fact we didn't get him means we have to back Awoniyi and Surridge as the traditional CFs in the team, it could be the making of either or both of them and if we manage to stay up it's probably a position we can really work on with a bigger chunk of next summers budget. Just fingers crossed and trust in Cooper to bring it all together now.

I still think Surridge will surprise us.
If we create chances - he will score goals

 

[Master Yates]

I'd drop Smith and keep Cafu.

I don’t see the point in keeping Cafu around. With all these centre-halves we have now, I don’t think we’ll see Kouayaté in the back 3 again, so Cafu is 7th choice central midfielder in a setup that normally plays 2 CMs.

If he is starting games or even playing significant parts of games, we are bang in trouble. If it gets to that point, I’d rather play Hammond.

He seems like a great chap, but to be honest he was only just about passable squad filler in the league below.



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[Timothy Pope]

Leave Niahkate & Richards out. Neither will be fully fit enough to play many games before the World Cup shuts football down and with only 2 games before January we may as well take that risk.

 

[Morpeth]

Leave Niahkate & Richards out. Neither will be fully fit enough to play many games before the World Cup shuts football down and with only 2 games before January we may as well take that risk.

Even those two games could be vital and I’d rather leave out Cook to be honest what with having loads of better centre halves to choose from now.

Not nice, but that’s the way it goes.

FWIW I don’t think there’s any need to exclude cook anyway.

 

[congo_red_49]

I don’t see the point in keeping Cafu around. With all these centre-halves we have now, I don’t think we’ll see Kouayaté in the back 3 again, so Cafu is 7th choice central midfielder in a setup that normally plays 2 CMs.

If he is starting games or even playing significant parts of games, we are bang in trouble. If it gets to that point, I’d rather play Hammond.

He seems like a great chap, but to be honest he was only just about passable squad filler in the league below.

He still leads the squad in terms of assists this season.

 

[Master Yates]

He still leads the squad in terms of assists this season.

If he still does in January, we’ll be miles adrift at the bottom


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[Erik]

Looking at what we've done, we have signed a substantial part of a core group of players, all aged 24 or under, all on long term deals.

Cooper said something in a press conference the other day about always having to improve other clubs players and send them back.

I think this is the start of a long term strategy to take that young core and improve it, so that by the time they are hitting peak age, Forest are competitive and successful and they will want to stay longer.

The plan, I think, is to build long term on and around that group, adding quality to it bit by bit. If we stay up I do not see another window like this happening. I see us now operating on a 'one in, one out' basis - With older players moving on when the time is right.

MGW, Richards, Williams, Yates, Worrall, Biancone, Soh, Panzo, Lodi, Niakhate, Awoniyi, Surridge, Bowler and the lad over in South America are, I think our core.

Everyone else is either here to provide experience and help us through the first 1 or 2 seasons, or opportunities we could not turn down.

I think, if everyone stays patient, including the owner, that this long term strategy is what Cooper has bought into and he knows it - Hence no rush to sign his new contract until the window is over.

Exciting times ahead.

Now stay up!

 

[Haych]

I’m not sure how people are getting confused with this.

Taylor
Arter
Colback
Cafu

None of the above will be registered.

Smith could easily not be registered as he won’t be playing a single minute in this league.

Mbe Soh also won’t get near the squad but I don’t think we have to register him anyway.

If Richards is out for months he could be left out but it won’t be needed.

 

[Ricochet]

Looking at what we've done, we have signed a substantial part of a core group of players, all aged 24 or under, all on long term deals.

Cooper said something in a press conference the other day about always having to improve other clubs players and send them back.

I think this is the start of a long term strategy to take that young core and improve it, so that by the time they are hitting peak age, Forest are competitive and successful and they will want to stay longer.

The plan, I think, is to build long term on and around that group, adding quality to it bit by bit. If we stay up I do not see another window like this happening. I see us now operating on a 'one in, one out' basis - With older players moving on when the time is right.

MGW, Richards, Williams, Yates, Worrall, Biancone, Soh, Panzo, Lodi, Niakhate, Awoniyi, Surridge, Bowler and the lad over in South America are, I think our core.

Everyone else is either here to provide experience and help us through the first 1 or 2 seasons, or opportunities we could not turn down.

I think, if everyone stays patient, including the owner, that this long term strategy is what Cooper has bought into and he knows it - Hence no rush to sign his new contract until the window is over.

Exciting times ahead.

Now stay up!

O’Brien and Mangala are younger than some of your other core players and should definitely be included.

 

[Scissorkick]

O’Brien and Mangala are younger than some of your other core players and should definitely be included.

and Bade at 22, option to buy

 

[Mcbeth99]

I’m not sure how people are getting confused with this.

Taylor
Arter
Colback
Cafu

None of the above will be registered.

Smith could easily not be registered as he won’t be playing a single minute in this league.

Mbe Soh also won’t get near the squad but I don’t think we have to register him anyway.

If Richards is out for months he could be left out but it won’t be needed.

But I think the important question is, when we are saying players will be out for months - are those normal months with 30/31 days or are we talking Super Cooper months (which have been known to contain considerably less days)! ;-)

 

[incident]

I’m not sure how people are getting confused with this.

Taylor
Arter
Colback
Cafu

None of the above will be registered.

Sorry, but no. Unless they all leave in the near future, it's all but guaranteed that least one of the players you name will be registered. Not Arter, but at least one of the other 3. Possibly more than one depending on the injury situation with Richards/Niakhate.

Basic maths says that if none of those are registered, then that means we're consciously choosing to register less than the 25 senior players we're entitled to. At the same time we would be paying the players left out a professional salary while choosing to make them unavailable for selection. That would be absolutely bonkers.

Given that Taylor, Colback, and Cafu have all had Premier League minutes this season, we can safely assuem that Cooper trusts them more than the players coming through the U21st right now - so it's not like they've been properly bomb squadded. To run with a 25 that's deliberately weaker than it needs to be would be immensely stupid.

 

[Erik]

O’Brien and Mangala are younger than some of your other core players and should definitely be included.

There were a lot of them and I missed them! An error! You are quite right.

When you see the sheer number of them it makes sense (to me anyway).

 

[Haych]

Sorry, but no. Unless they all leave in the near future, it's all but guaranteed that least one of the players you name will be registered. Not Arter, but at least one of the other 3. Possibly more than one depending on the injury situation with Richards/Niakhate.

Basic maths says that if none of those are registered, then that means we're consciously choosing to register less than the 25 senior players we're entitled to. At the same time we would be paying the players left out a professional salary while choosing to make them unavailable for selection. That would be absolutely bonkers.

Given that Taylor, Colback, and Cafu have all had Premier League minutes this season, we can safely assuem that Cooper trusts them more than the players coming through the U21st right now - so it's not like they've been properly bomb squadded. To run with a 25 that's deliberately weaker than it needs to be would be immensely stupid.

If we’ve signed 20 players only to be registering one of Taylor, Colback and Cafu in the squad we won’t be going anywhere fast.

Colback is the only one remotely close to the team and he would be what, 6th choice centre mid?

It would be even crazier if registering one of the above meant a new signing not being registered.

 

[incident]

If we’ve signed 20 players only to be registering one of Taylor, Colback and Cafu in the squad we won’t be going anywhere fast.

Colback is the only one remotely close to the team and he would be what, 6th choice centre mid?

It would be even crazier if registering of the above meant a new signing not being registered.

Nobody is suggesting that those players would be registered with the intention of featuring in games - they'd be there as last resort depth options for if we had an injury crisis. Yes, it wouldn't be ideal but it'd still likely be better than dragging in an 18 year old who's never played a game of senior football in his life and isn't ready yet.

Including them wouldn't mean a new signing not being registered (unless they're going to be injured for the duration) - we don't have enough players for that to be likely. Counting up all of the players at the club, ignoring Arter and assuming Aurier goes through ok, basically the squad choice will be 25 from 27 and it comes down to which 2 miss out.

Yes - if everyone is fit then for sure Colback, Cafu, Taylor are the most likely candidates for that - but we won't run with less than 25 just because they're not as good as the first choice options so at least one is getting registered. There's also the possibility that if any of our injuries are worse than Cooper is letting on and the player is out until January or beyond, then that's another space free that will be better filled than left empty. So at least one maybe more gets in the 25.

 

[RedRobbo]

I’m not sure how people are getting confused with this.

Taylor
Arter
Colback
Cafu

None of the above will be registered.

Smith could easily not be registered as he won’t be playing a single minute in this league.

Mbe Soh also won’t get near the squad but I don’t think we have to register him anyway.

If Richards is out for months he could be left out but it won’t be needed.

Niakhate out for longer than Richards?

 

[valspoodle]

So the consensus is only a couple at most need to be left out? Not a problem, just leave out the two who won't be playing anyway.

Job done.

 

[cheapseats]

I still think Surridge will surprise us.
If we create chances - he will score goals

Yes and its the "if we create chances" bit that's the important element here.
To me Sam looks like hes made to play as part of a pair up front, and even though hes not small ideally it would be alongside a stronger striker from whom he could pick up short passes and knock downs. I think he would get the chances and the goals then.

Don't think our current formation really suits him TBH but its really early in the season and I hope to be proven wrong...

 

[Gyros Peter]

I think the rest of Sam's game is a bit off the level of his finishing if I'm honest, but hopefully that will come - he's still pretty young iirc?

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

Yes and its the "if we create chances" bit that's the important element here.
To me Sam looks like hes made to play as part of a pair up front, and even though hes not small ideally it would be alongside a stronger striker from whom he could pick up short passes and knock downs. I think he would get the chances and the goals then.

Don't think our current formation really suits him TBH but its really early in the season and I hope to be proven wrong...

I think the rest of Sam's game is a bit off the level of his finishing if I'm honest, but hopefully that will come - he's still pretty young iirc?

I think you underestimate a crucial aspect of his play: he's not just an excellent finisher, he's also a striker who's extremely diligent in his defensive duties, not only in midfield but even further back. This is not a common combination, and it's a combination which may prove useful to you this season, when defending duties are of paramount importance.

 

[Gyros Peter]

I think you underestimate a crucial aspect of his play: he's not just an excellent finisher, he's also a striker who's extremely diligent in his defensive duties, not only in midfield but even further back. This is not a common combination, and it's a combination which may prove useful to you this season, when defending duties are of paramount importance.

He does work very hard, though Dennis is similar in that regard and is probably livelier in his forward play. Doubt his finishing is as ruthless though so there's that.

It's a good point though, and I don't want to come across as a downer on Surridge - I just think his all round game will need a bit of work if he is to make an impact at this level in terms of attacking play (which is something Dennis did for Watford last year).

It'll be interesting to see how much game time he gets and how he fits in. I wonder if promotion came a year too early for him as think he would benefit from a year being the main man, but maybe I'm underestimating him?

 

[Harvey]

I think the rest of Sam's game is a bit off the level of his finishing if I'm honest, but hopefully that will come - he's still pretty young iirc?

Yeah he's still only 24

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

Can somebody simplify the ins and outs for me please?
Am like "me edz fukt"??

 

[TrentEndDr]

Just seen Marinakis confirming Marcelo has signed for Olympiakos - imagine the outrage if he loaned him over to forest

 

[Slim Jim]

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