Summer 2022 Transfer Window

[Redemption]

Evangel Dennis at Watford is available for.probably £10-15m... bagged 10 goals last season

 

[Ashley]

What's a proven goal scoring record?

Teemu Pukki was suggested earlier. Both seasons he's played in the Premier League he's scored 11 goals. Could be a shrewd buy at less than £40m.

Will still be expensive, as Norwich will (quite understandably) want far more than he is worth given how reliant they are on him.

Probably-but lets put it another way, are you confident we have enough firepower at present?.

We still need another striker in addition to what we have, yes. The chances of us signing one with a proven record in the Premier League are extremely low however. At the moment, I'm more concerned about the midfield though. It doesn't matter who we have upfront if we aren't creating anything.

Evangel Dennis at Watford is available for.probably £10-15m... bagged 10 goals last season

Don't see a parachute payment club letting one of their prized assets go for that cheap myself.

 

[Redemption]

Will still be expensive, as Norwich will (quite understandably) want far more than he is worth given how reliant they are on him.


We still need another striker in addition to what we have, yes. The chances of us signing one with a proven record in the Premier League are extremely low however. At the moment, I'm more concerned about the midfield though. It doesn't matter who we have upfront if we aren't creating anything.


Don't see a parachute payment club letting one of their prized assets go for that cheap myself.

They only paid €4m for him.

You're probably.right. I'll go to £25. No more.

 

[cheapseats]

I don't think anyone does but that's a different question. Heaven forbid something happen to Brennan or Taiwo as the squad stands. I'm confident we'll add at least two attacking threats between now and end of the window (preferably before Newcastle but I think that's optimistic), but we may need to find value in other leagues.

With the greatest possible respect Canadian it isn't a different question. We are too thin up front and there can be no debate about that. Its the whole reason we have squads and the truth is Brennan and/or Taiwo are almost certain to get injured at points in the season..
I agree also with Ashley about the midfield but it seems the tectonic plates are shifting there and I'm hopeful we'll go into the season with an acceptable midfield, even if it isn't stellar, but for me its all about the goals and the goal threat-we have to give opposition teams something to worry about so they don't set up to overwhelm our midfield safe in the knowledge we don't score many...

 

[Canadian_red]

Well the one comment was can we get a scorer proven in the English leagues (response being not without spending a lot), with the other being do we think we have enough attacking threat. They are linked for sure. The second can be answered with or without a proven English league scorer but there aren't many guarantees available either way.

I do think we'll be relying on scoring being spread throughout the line up and at the moment only really Yates and Brennan offer that scoring threat (maybe a bit from O'Brien if that's confirmed). We absolutely need quality.

 

[DizzyBala]

So far we've spent like what £60m? It looks like we're dropping another £10m on the Huddersfield lads, so that's £70m.
Realistically, we're probably going to bring the £100m mark but I don't think we'll go much further over that.

That's £30m left.. £40m at a push for reasonably 3-4 players. I think we need a CM, a ST and a winger. I'd go so far as to suggest maybe even 2 CMs since we're weakest there.

I'd still really love to see us test United's resolve with a bid for Garner. We've established good relations with them through the Hendo/Garner loans and I still think if they're not going to use him, he'd come back here. Any move would have to result in a transfer however.

I think Pukki would actually be a really great addition, especially to replace Grabban. Similar players, plus if we did go down, he's got the experience and quality to get the sort of goals needed to come back up. He can't be on massive money at Norwich and if he's looking for pastures new?

With Gallagher going back to Chelsea, they're overloaded in central midfield now and I'd really love to see us try and get Ruben Loftus-Cheek on loan. He's really good on the ball, he's a big lad and he's got plenty of Premierleague experience which we don't have a lot of.

I like the Marcus Tavernier link as well, think he's flexible to play either wide or in the centre.

 

[Thomas]

didn’t someone, some respected journalist, say we’re going PAST 100?


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[Canadian_red]

I think they said they wouldn't be surprised, along with saying we may break our record again. I can see it being 115m so l, when all is said and done.

 

[Thomas]

I think they said they wouldn't be surprised, along with saying we may break our record again. I can see it being 115m so l, when all is said and done.

imma be honest with you mr maple leaf it’s gonna be 130m. EM jr told me #itk


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[GreeksBearingGifts]

Supposing the Huddersfield duo are announced today, and that you'll be waiting for (and most probably signing) Garner until the end of the window, I think you're done with transfers regarding goalkeepers, defenders and midfielders. Your midfield (O' Brien, Garner, Yates, Colback / Ojeda and/or Cafú) might be a bit lacking in experience but there's plenty of youth and stamina.

Now, the focus will be on forwards. I'd bring in at least two. One should obviously be a Zinckernagel replacement. I don't know what the second one should be (winger or striker).

 

[Gyros Peter]

Think we'll be after more midfielders - even if we get Garner, can see us going for another athletic type to challenge Yates.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Supposing the Huddersfield duo are announced today, and that you'll be waiting for (and most probably signing) Garner until the end of the window, I think you're done with transfers regarding goalkeepers, defenders and midfielders. Your midfield (O' Brien, Garner, Yates, Colback / Ojeda and/or Cafú) might be a bit lacking in experience but there's plenty of youth and stamina.

Now, the focus will be on forwards. I'd bring in at least two. One should obviously be a Zinckernagel replacement. I don't know what the second one should be (winger or striker).

I like both Garner and O'Brien but would be a tad worried if we went into September with just them. Basically Cafu, Ojeda and probably Colback should ideally be leaving the club, particularly the first two, on loan or permanently so if they're our back ups then I see that as pretty weak for the Premier league

 

[Bonfy177]

Out of interest and 100% not intending to agitate, does anyone have any understanding how Forest are paying for the incoming players on the whole ?

is it money in the bank? Due to PL payment already received?
EM writing cheques? Then he‘ll recoup money when PL cough up?
based on future earnings? Borrowing as income is guaranteed?
spending worse case parachute payments? Again borrowing ?

or is it a mixture of all above ?

as I said I’m just interested and I’m 100% in the just enjoy the upcoming season and the 38 new experience camp.

my posts as anyone who stumbles across them can attest are light hearted ( or stupid see my Nixon BLOCKED) on the whole.

cheers.

 

[Captain Sinister]

Out of interest and 100% not intending to agitate, does anyone have any understanding how Forest are paying for the incoming players on the whole ?

is it money in the bank? Due to PL payment already received?
EM writing cheques? Then he‘ll recoup money when PL cough up?
based on future earnings? Borrowing as income is guaranteed?
spending worse case parachute payments? Again borrowing ?

or is it a mixture of all above ?

as I said I’m just interested and I’m 100% in the just enjoy the upcoming season and the 38 new experience camp.

my posts as anyone who stumbles across them can attest are light hearted ( or stupid see my Nixon BLOCKED) on the whole.

cheers.

We still had some of the Gunter money left as well, remember!

 

[Kjetil Osvold's Cat]

I'm ok with Cafu sticking around as club captain (only joking due to banter from other thread, but the sticking around part I mean!), and Ojeda I reckon would be good to keep, even as an under-23 player working under Andy Reid, but I do kind of agree that ideally more than one midfield playmaker would come in (maybe Garner in and O'Brien as a progressive ball carrier is not exactly bad though, comparing to what was available last season, and that Mangala is linked too although I'm not sure whether he's more a Kante type potentially or not).

I'd still like 2 from 3 out of Garner, Winks and Ceballos I think, if it were possible (but then again I'd still like more than one AM, a left wing forward, a quality striker...or two and maybe it starts to seem greedy and/or unrealistic at some point, even though surely we will sign a few yet).

https://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/real-madrid/transfer-talk/news/real-madrid-want-euro10m-for-dani-ceballos_490293.html

Obviously there are some questions on Ceballos though:
- Would be like to come to Nottingham (you'd hope he could be chatted into it, but the next points are relevant)
- How much would he accept as a wage
- How much game time does he want, given he's not getting enough at Real, if he did come as well as Garner for example (I'd potentially like them in the same line-up but considering everything including system I'm not sure that fits, regularly at least, for Cooper, although with 5 subs to be used potentially they could share duties)
- And of course would Cooper like to have him (does he do enough defensively for his liking or could be be coached into doing similar to Garner in that respect at least for example)....?

Arguably he could be an option at number 10, to fill in there even if we only signed MGW and nobody else for that role (others like Ojeda possibly or Brennan Johnson could maybe be options if necessary I guess or we could use two players either side of a striker rather than a central AM which is possible with MGW being one anyway too)?

It might be a far fetched one, but you never know and the transfer fee doesn't seem out of reach anyway. Maybe less far fetched than loaning or buying Morata as the other striker or something (although he's not actually a proven Premier League scorer I suppose lol) - that Bayern player there were some vague rumours about (not specifically re: Forest though) I'd noticed via this forum does seem a very capable all round player I'd thought, but now I see he's listed as an attacking midfielder, and besides that he signed for Rangers anyway lol

So now I say let's sign another player who looked dangerous as a striker the other day, but apparently plays more as an attacking midfielder herself

Ok I'm not really suggesting it (if it's even possible), although Chelsea paid something like £250k so she'd be a bargain at multiple times that possibly lol!

 

[DapperDan]

I don't think B/T/S (plus Davies if he signs) is enough for the goals we need-or at least its a big gamble that Taiwo hits the ground running and he and Brennan gel very quickly. I'd like to see a player with a goal scoring record in English football coming in even if hes over the magic 28 years....

Yates got 8 goals last year, the new ACM should be good for a few whoever that will be, whoever plays deeper (O'Brien/Garner/random) should get a few, centre backs always get a few each from set pieces. I think we will be fine if we get Davis and real quality in the attacking midfielder position.

 

[SouthManchesterTree]

I like both Garner and O'Brien but would be a tad worried if we went into September with just them. Basically Cafu, Ojeda and probably Colback should ideally be leaving the club, particularly the first two, on loan or permanently so if they're our back ups then I see that as pretty weak for the Premier league

We definitely need Colback. He wouldn’t get into a top 6 team obviously but remember our objective is to come above 3 other teams. Against his counterparts at Bournemouth, Fulham or Leeds he’ll be fine.

We also need to have an eye on continuity, remembering that team spirit was such an important part of our success last year. I don’t want us to assume players aren’t good enough without giving them a chance, and the fringe players from the Championship will be important in knitting the squad together. The reality is we’ll have zero experienced Prem players, so we need to see how they do.

 

[Captain Sinister]

To sum up where we are:
1 We have 2 Premiership quality goalies;
2 We have sufficient and decent quality centre-back players and full-backs/wing backs to play either a back 3 with 2 wing-backs, or a back four;
3 We have gaps in defensive midfield players, exacerbated by the injury to Ryan Yates;
4 We have gaps/ an out-right shortage of creative midfield players;
5 We have the bare minimum of wingers/strikers - none with any proven Premiership quality, up to now;
6 We have the best young manager and CEO combination;
7 We have a wealthy owner, driven by a love of football and with a Winners character.
There is still time to fill the gaps.
However, is there still time to ensure the squad is prepared and ready to compete in what is the toughest league in the world?
Time will tell.

 

[Redemption]

Out of interest and 100% not intending to agitate, does anyone have any understanding how Forest are paying for the incoming players on the whole ?

is it money in the bank? Due to PL payment already received?
EM writing cheques? Then he‘ll recoup money when PL cough up?
based on future earnings? Borrowing as income is guaranteed?
spending worse case parachute payments? Again borrowing ?

or is it a mixture of all above ?

as I said I’m just interested and I’m 100% in the just enjoy the upcoming season and the 38 new experience camp.

my posts as anyone who stumbles across them can attest are light hearted ( or stupid see my Nixon BLOCKED) on the whole.

cheers.

I'm assuming a mixture.

The TV rights for the EPL was £8bn over 3 seasons.

That's £2.6bn per season.

Less some solidarity payments to the EFL etc.

The eventual prize fund is then split in two.

50% is distributed equally among the 20 clubs. £57m, at my reckoning (47m from overseas rights and 10m from domestic rights). This could be paid up front as it is unconditional, being part of the league is sufficient to get it.

The other 50% is split in two for conditional payments.

One quarter is TV appearance money, at a million per game. This could be paid monthly.

And finally, the remaining quarter is the Merit papyment, which depends on league position. That can be paid until the season has ended.

Finally finally, there is the next year's parasite payment.

Some of the transfer fees will be in installments and addons can ob l y be due later.

So you would have thought, much of the initial transfer activity can be funded from league payment's.

Keeping the club afloat dueing the season might need the largesse of the owner until later payments are made.

 

[Bonfy177]

I'm assuming a mixture.

The TV rights for the EPL was £8bn over 3 seasons.

That's £2.6bn per season.

Less some solidarity payments to the EFL etc.

The eventual prize fund is then split in two.

50% is distributed equally among the 20 clubs. £57m, at my reckoning (47m from overseas rights and 10m from domestic rights). This could be paid up front as it is unconditional, being part of the league is sufficient to get it.

The other 50% is split in two pay for conditional payments.

One half is TV appearance money, at a million per game. This could be paid monthly.

And finally, the othe other half is the Merit papyment, which depends on league position. That can be paid until the season has ended.

Finally finally, there is the next year's parasite payment.

Some of the transfer fees will be in installments and addons can ob l y be due later.

So you would have thought, much of the initial transfer activity can be funded from league payment's.

Keeping the club afloat dueing the season might need the largesse of the owner.

thanks for that Red, mad to think as European champions we had a choice of new player or daffy the stand up …..now we’ll have both and a bit extra, after so long away from the top table I’ve become detached from what goes on now in football

 

[DapperDan]

To sum up where we are:
1 We have 2 Premiership quality goalies;
2 We have sufficient and decent quality centre-back players and full-backs/wing backs to play either a back 3 with 2 wing-backs, or a back four;
3 We have gaps in defensive midfield players, exacerbated by the injury to Ryan Yates;
4 We have gaps/ an out-right shortage of creative midfield players;
5 We have the bare minimum of wingers/strikers - none with any proven Premiership quality, up to now;
6 We have the best young manager and CEO combination;
7 We have a wealthy owner, driven by a love of football and with a Winners character.
There is still time to fill the gaps.
However, is there still time to ensure the squad is prepared and ready to compete in what is the toughest league in the world?
Time will tell.

Captain Objective?

 

[Harrison]

After O’Brien and Toffolo sign I’d love us to finish off with:
A defensive midfielder- Mangala
A attacking midfielder- MGW
A left winger / forward - Okafor or Ryan Kent (in last year of his contract)

 

[Ashley]

After O’Brien and Toffolo sign I’d love us to finish off with:
A defensive midfielder- Mangala
A attacking midfielder- MGW
A left winger / forward - Okafor or Ryan Kent (in last year of his contract)

I'd be more than happy with those three, plus Davis and an additional midfielder for depth if I am being greedy.

 

[Master Yates]

Out of interest and 100% not intending to agitate, does anyone have any understanding how Forest are paying for the incoming players on the whole ?

is it money in the bank? Due to PL payment already received?
EM writing cheques? Then he‘ll recoup money when PL cough up?
based on future earnings? Borrowing as income is guaranteed?
spending worse case parachute payments? Again borrowing ?

or is it a mixture of all above ?

as I said I’m just interested and I’m 100% in the just enjoy the upcoming season and the 38 new experience camp.

my posts as anyone who stumbles across them can attest are light hearted ( or stupid see my Nixon BLOCKED) on the whole.

cheers.

Not in the know at all but I imagine we will have taken a loan out against the TV money and parachute payments and will use that for our transfer dealings, but also worth remembering that very few if any transfer fees are paid up front nowadays anyway.


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[RedSpoons]

After O’Brien and Toffolo sign I’d love us to finish off with:
A defensive midfielder- Mangala
A attacking midfielder- MGW
A left winger / forward - Okafor or Ryan Kent (in last year of his contract)

Mangala, MGW and Okafor would be insane